Salary Cap: Pens '23-'24 Salary Cap Thread: "Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenceau once said about hockey"

[Ryder71]

Good, hope he tells the league that he's open for business.

 

[deakka]

Good, hope he tells the league that he's open for business.

one would think the GMs can make these things known to eachother in other ways than presser

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Yeah, 20 mil in cap space without multiple core pieces and bottom-sixers signed, plus the cap penalties you accrue from off-loading Hextall's bad contracts.
This guy makes it sound like we had everybody important signed and could just seek out luxury pieces. Not to mention the goalie, 1LD and 3C market in the summer, and how many UFAs don't wanna come to Pittsburgh. Idiot.

Can we make posts by the intelligent people, please? Shirey, Marshall...people with some brain cells to rub together? Daniel Hopper isn't it.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Rossi had an exclusive with Sid, who said Jake's status won't impact his own future and that he only wants to play for the Pens.

Will the Penguins’ decision regarding Guentzel, either before or after the trade deadline, influence Crosby’s decision to recommit to Pittsburgh?

“No,” Crosby said. “Obviously, it’s a big decision for both sides. That’s something that’s out of my control. But I don’t think that affects how I view things.

“I’m not even thinking about extensions.”

One thing that hasn’t changed: Crosby only wants to play for the Penguins his entire career.

“Yeah,” he said. “I’ve said that forever. But right now I’m trying to focus on getting into the playoffs.”

Why Sidney Crosby won't let Jake Guentzel's future impact his decision to stay with Penguins

Crosby can sign an extension on July 1, and the Penguins view his extension as the top priority for the organization on and off the ice.

theathletic.com

 

[Ryder71]

one would think the GMs can make these things known to eachother in other ways than presser

Sure, but declaring it at a presser your message will be received more widely and hopefully build up speculation and rumors. You wanna get as much attention as possible. Instead of making 31 individual phone calls.

 

[Ulf5]

Josh Yohe
@JoshYohe_PGH

Geno Malkin has scored two goals in the past 18 games. He doesn’t have a point in his past four games. He’s looked as bad as those numbers suggest. The Penguins have many problems. His performance is pretty high on the list.

That shit almost makes me want to make a twitter account and respond with Sully's shitty stats. And as we all know, it's over a period of a hell of a lot longer than 18 games.

 

[Ulf5]

Oh, this should be spectacular.

I get the feeling the transcript will read like a Sully presser treating us like mushrooms. A whole lot of shoveling shit and keeping us in the dark.

 

[Josey Wales]

Yeah, 20 mil in cap space without multiple core pieces and bottom-sixers signed, plus the cap penalties you accrue from off-loading Hextall's bad contracts.
This guy makes it sound like we had everybody important signed and could just seek out luxury pieces. Not to mention the goalie, 1LD and 3C market in the summer, and how many UFAs don't wanna come to Pittsburgh. Idiot.

Can we make posts by the intelligent people, please? Shirey, Marshall...people with some brain cells to rub together? Daniel Hopper isn't it.

Marshall??? people with Brain Cells to rub together, You mean the Chucklehead who defended Abylsma to the Bitter end & even after the bitter end

 

[SEALBound]

Josh Yohe
@JoshYohe_PGH

Geno Malkin has scored two goals in the past 18 games. He doesn’t have a point in his past four games. He’s looked as bad as those numbers suggest. The Penguins have many problems. His performance is pretty high on the list.

It IS a problem. It's not THEE problem.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

lol Josh Yohe

*yawn*

The next time that guy has an original thought will be the first time.

 

[SEALBound]

Yeah, 20 mil in cap space without multiple core pieces and bottom-sixers signed, plus the cap penalties you accrue from off-loading Hextall's bad contracts.
This guy makes it sound like we had everybody important signed and could just seek out luxury pieces. Not to mention the goalie, 1LD and 3C market in the summer, and how many UFAs don't wanna come to Pittsburgh. Idiot.

Can we make posts by the intelligent people, please? Shirey, Marshall...people with some brain cells to rub together? Daniel Hopper isn't it.

Agreed. $20mil seems like a lot but when you have Jarry and a top 4 dman to sign, it pretty much cuts that in half. Then you're filling in an entire bottom 6 sans 1-2 available guys - DOC and Carter.

It's one of the dumber comments honestly. It's just like the "he spent $10mil on EK when he should have used it on filling out the roster!" while not recognizing that we had Petry, Granlund, and Rutta signed.

 

[Andy99]

Geno is 37 and has had multiple knee surgeries and has some hard miles on his skinny frame…anyone who was expecting him to carry the L2 offense this season after 82 games last season hasn’t been paying attention…He needs a Mitch Marner to play with, not be the Mitch Marner…i fault the organization for acting like he’s 27

 

[Pens1566]

I get the feeling the transcript will read like a Sully presser treating us like mushrooms. A whole lot of shoveling shit and keeping us in the dark.

And that will be awesome. In what it tells us about his intentions.

 

[Pens1566]

Geno is 37 and has had multiple knee surgeries and has some hard miles on his skinny frame…anyone who was expecting him to carry the L2 offense this season after 82 games last season hasn’t been paying attention…He needs a Mitch Marner to play with, not be the Mitch Marner…i fault the organization for acting like he’s 27

Another thing I've said before ... we need a 3rd play driving forward in the top 6 now even more than we did when Kessel was acquired in '16. Reason being that Sid and Geno are 8yrs older than they were back then.

Guentzel is NOT that, and EK isn't being used in a way that will help in that regard either.

 

[Come on]

Whew at least after shuffling the lines Harkins Carter and White are still together. I thought they were going to sit Harkins or White and keep Puuly in there. Now if they can give them 15-20 mins a game we can really see what they can do!

 

[Pancakes]

There are 32 teams in the league. Therefore one can reasonably infer that there are 64 centers that should be playing in team's top sixes. By production, a top six center should be within the top 64 points for centers in the league.

Going by that, Malkin is the 41st highest scoring center in the league. That would put him in the upper echelon of second line scoring centers.

By xgoals he's sitting on 53% 5v5.

If Yohe wants to claim that Malkin not scoring like 26 year old Malkin is a problem, then fine, I agree. But that's not Malkin's fault lol. That's the Penguins if they expect him to do that. He's producing at a perfectly fine (good even) level for a second line center.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

They have changed personnel, same result.

So what you're saying is no matter the personnel, the system/setup they're being told to run is the issue?

And you continue to "not blame" Sullivan for this? So why are you giving him credit for the 5on5 play (even though it's not as great as you make it sound)? Either the coach is responsible for how the team plays as a whole, or the coach has no effect on anything and it's the players' fault for everything. Which is it?

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

There are 32 teams in the league. Therefore one can reasonably infer that there are 64 centers that should be playing in team's top sixes. By production, a top six center should be within the top 64 points for centers in the league.

Going by that, Malkin is the 41st highest scoring center in the league. That would put him in the upper echelon of second line scoring centers.

By xgoals he's sitting on 53% 5v5.

If Yohe wants to claim that Malkin not scoring like 26 year old Malkin is a problem, then fine, I agree. But that's not Malkin's fault lol. That's the Penguins if they expect him to do that. He's producing at a perfectly fine (good even) level for a second line center.

I want to preface this by saying that Crosby IS having a great season and I don't generally like it when people MUST bring up one when talking about the other. But this year through 51 games Crosby was sitting at 54 points. And he's having "OMG SO AMAZE SEASON." Last year Malkin was sitting at... 54 points through 51 games at about the same age. Sure didn't hear much about it. I won't bring up linemate situations but I think we all know how that generally goes, too.

I really am not trying to do a "woe is Geno" thing here. Frankly I don't give enough of a shit, anymore. But there is absolutely a narrative among the local jackasses and portions of the fanbase.

 

[Come on]

So what you're saying is no matter the personnel, the system/setup they're being told to run is the issue?

And you continue to "not blame" Sullivan for this? So why are you giving him credit for the 5on5 play (even though it's not as great as you make it sound)? Either the coach is responsible for how the team plays as a whole, or the coach has no effect on anything and it's the players' fault for everything. Which is it?

It's both Sullivan makes terrible personal and usage decisions AND most of the players are to complacent.

 

[Gurglesons]

I want to preface this by saying that Crosby IS having a great season and I don't generally like it when people MUST bring up one when talking about the other. But this year through 51 games Crosby was sitting at 54 points. And he's having "OMG SO AMAZE SEASON." Last year Malkin was sitting at... 54 points through 51 games at about the same age. Sure didn't hear much about it. I won't bring up linemate situations but I think we all know how that generally goes, too.

I really am not trying to do a "woe is Geno" thing here. Frankly I don't give enough of a shit, anymore. But there is absolutely a narrative among the local jackasses and portions of the fanbase.

Yeah this one is hilarious.

Also, Malkin didn't have Jake Guentzel and had Jason Zucker who everyone insists we didn't touch this year.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Yeah this one is hilarious.

Also, Malkin didn't have Jake Guentzel and had Jason Zucker who everyone insists we didn't touch this year.

I'm not sad to see Zucker gone, really.

I'm just sad that he was replaced by a malcontent and we're now resorting to playing waiver fodder and busts on his line while little shitbirds like Yohe prance around pointing fingers like they've figured it all out. It's beyond obnoxious.

 

[Gurglesons]

I'm not sad to see Zucker gone, really.

I'm just sad that he was replaced by a malcontent and we're now resorting to playing waiver fodder and busts on his line while little shitbirds like Yohe prance around pointing fingers like they've figured it all out. It's beyond obnoxious.

Dan Kingerski blocked me on twitter.

 

[The Old Master]

Geno is 37 and has had multiple knee surgeries and has some hard miles on his skinny frame…anyone who was expecting him to carry the L2 offense this season after 82 games last season hasn’t been paying attention…He needs a Mitch Marner to play with, not be the Mitch Marner…i fault the organization for acting like he’s 27

we were all told on this board many times that Geno had thin bones and we shouldn't draft him so now we know he was right.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Dan Kingerski blocked me on twitter.

I'm so sorry.

You're missing so much.

I can feel your sadness and despair from across the country. Chin up, buckaroo.

 

[Ryder71]

I want to preface this by saying that Crosby IS having a great season and I don't generally like it when people MUST bring up one when talking about the other. But this year through 51 games Crosby was sitting at 54 points. And he's having "OMG SO AMAZE SEASON." Last year Malkin was sitting at... 54 points through 51 games at about the same age. Sure didn't hear much about it. I won't bring up linemate situations but I think we all know how that generally goes, too.

I really am not trying to do a "woe is Geno" thing here. Frankly I don't give enough of a shit, anymore. But there is absolutely a narrative among the local jackasses and portions of the fanbase.

100% agree. Geno had a very good season last year and he was the same age as Sid is now. Over a PPG and was fairly consistent. I would expect Sid to drop off next season, to what degree is yet to be determined, but your point is well taken.