Salary Cap: Pens '23-'24 Salary Cap Thread: "But if you don't get the President of the Pittsburgh Penguins on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you?"

[JTG]

I don't that's likely. By the time those 2 are ready, the window will be closed.

Agreed. With that being said, sell the farm. Just keep selling the farm until the 4 big guys are gone. Zero reason for prospects at this point, even though I think the last 17 years have proven, you very rarely get anywhere going "all in" and selling your prospects and picks.

If we are ever lucky enough to land a talent like Sid or Geno again, I'd be pretty steadily against trading picks and prospects, and that's a pretty big change from my beliefs years ago. I just don't think the team gets enough out of it.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Only in Pittsburgh is Trocheck even mentioned in the same sentence as Malkin lmao

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

Letang - Graves...

We all know Letang is never going to change, that's just the way it is. Graves needs to remember who is the premier OD between them, and take a step back if Letang has the opportunity to go, even if he has a step on him.

Otherwise...
We need Graves to corner the 3rd pairing and trade away POJ for a Defensive D for Letang.

Another option (as some have suggested) is to swap Petts and Graves. EK makes less mistakes than Letang, so it may work out better overall.

It has only been 3 games, so I'll wait until mid-season before I overthink this .


EDIT..
Malkin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Trocheck

I can't stress that enough!

 

[Malkinstheman]

I cant even understand the thought behind picking Trocheck over Geno. Even 37 year old Malkin is miles ahead of Trocheck

 

[NeedleInTheHay]

The next 5 are against some stiff competition.

The blues and wings are bum teams

 

[Andy99]

Trocheck performed worse than Malkin on a much better hockey team last year. And Malkin is killing it so far this year.

There's exactly one reason to prefer Trocheck to Malkin - age. And until Malkin's play falls off a cliff that argument doesn't appear to be winning for Trocheck.

Well that, or 1) you’re a xenophobe blubberhead who has always tried to run Malkin out of town, or 2) a STH…

I cant even understand the thought behind picking Trocheck over Geno. Even 37 year old Malkin is miles ahead of Trocheck

Trocheck is so great he got demoted over Chytil and is now the Rangers third line center lol

 

[3ladesof5teel]

I cant even understand the thought behind picking Trocheck over Geno. Even 37 year old Malkin is miles ahead of Trocheck

Just a little over a year ago 50% of this board was on board with it.

Sad

And BTW Trocheck was offered a contract here and it wasn't at the expense of Geno but he didnt want to play 3C and he had a good relationship with Gallant.

That didn't work out that well

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Just a little over a year ago 50% of this board was on board with it.

Sad

Yup.

I dunno about 50% but there were an uncomfortable amount of people who wanted to dump Malkin for more or less whatever was available. Then told us what a shrewd and cagey GM Ron "What Year Is It?!?" Hextall was for tripping all over himself to sign Carter, Rust and Letang with zero issues or hesitation to whatever they wanted but take a future HOFer to the brink over like a million bucks or one year or whatever it was.

 

[Andy99]

I don’t see Trocheck anywhere on here lol…btw he should have been second star of the week after Matthews..

 

[pistolpete11]

Agreed. With that being said, sell the farm. Just keep selling the farm until the 4 big guys are gone. Zero reason for prospects at this point, even though I think the last 17 years have proven, you very rarely get anywhere going "all in" and selling your prospects and picks.

If we are ever lucky enough to land a talent like Sid or Geno again, I'd be pretty steadily against trading picks and prospects, and that's a pretty big change from my beliefs years ago. I just don't think the team gets enough out of it.

Trading picks and prospects doesn't work, so....let's trade our picks and prospects....?

 

[Ugene Magic]

Yup.

I dunno about 50% but there were an uncomfortable amount of people who wanted to dump Malkin for more or less whatever was available. Then told us what a shrewd and cagey GM Ron "What Year Is It?!?" Hextall was for tripping all over himself to sign Carter, Rust and Letang with zero issues or hesitation to whatever they wanted but take a future HOFer to the brink over like a million bucks or one year or whatever it was.

Wait until later in the season and these guys are beat down and people start to ramp up again. Early in the season shouldn't be any markers for anyone.

 

[SomeDude]

The blues and wings are bum teams

Any team with a defense deep enough to healthy scratch Jeff Petry must be historically, and I mean historically, average.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Trading picks and prospects doesn't work, so....let's trade our picks and prospects....?

But it did work. 3 times almost 4.

 

[tom_servo]

Imagine watching Malkin clown dudes in another jersey and then still having to start over with a new GM. It could've been so much worse.

 

[Andy99]

The blues and wings are bum teams

The Wings beat us 2 out of the 3 games last season and scored 12 goals in those games

 

[NeedleInTheHay]

The Wings beat us 2 out of the 3 games last season and scored 12 goals in those games

Last year the pens were also a bum team

 

[pistolpete11]

But it did work. 3 times almost 4.

I'm not the one saying it doesn't work.

 

[Turin]

Malkins last two games would be in the running for Trocheks best of his career and Geno is 37.

 

[Ugene Magic]

The Wings beat us 2 out of the 3 games last season and scored 12 goals in those games

Right, the teams that gives them trouble are young fast teams and higher quality teams.

 

[Andy99]

Right, the teams that gives them trouble are young fast teams and higher quality teams.

So basically 75% of the league lol..

 

[Ugene Magic]

They also play him as if he's 27.

Malkins last two games would be in the running for Trocheks best of his career and Geno is 37.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Interesting name from the main boards to add to the bottom-6 is Taylor Raddysh. I already talked about him in a potential POJ deal, but it seems like Hawks fans would actually prefer picks or prospects instead of POJ. I'd be really interested in doing that kind of deal, I'd much rather trade a 2nd for a 25 year old, cost controlled 3rd liner over a 2nd for a rental.

I think that's the deal Dubas should be trying to make, maybe not recreating the Hagel deal but something like that. If they're spending top assets, get someone young on a steal of a contract to help out the 3rd line.

 

[JTG]

Trading picks and prospects doesn't work, so....let's trade our picks and prospects....?

We are at a totally different time now than years ago. Now the picks and prospects are useless - our stars will be gone by time they are ready. If you read my post, I very clearly said, "if we land a talent like Crosby or Malkin again..."

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Just a little over a year ago 50% of this board was on board with it.

Sad

And BTW Trocheck was offered a contract here and it wasn't at the expense of Geno but he didnt want to play 3C and he had a good relationship with Gallant.

That didn't work out that well

I might be misremembering, but I think there detail that is missing is that people didn't want Trocheck OVER Malkin.

It was "if Geno doesn't resign here, here is a viable option"

 

[Al Smith]

The Wings beat us 2 out of the 3 games last season and scored 12 goals in those games

Wasn't one of those games one where we blew a big lead, like 4-0?