Salary Cap: Pens '23-'24 Salary Cap Thread: "But if you don't get the President of the Pittsburgh Penguins on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you?"

[SomeDude]

And plain truth, it can't get any worse than it is already.

It can always get worse. 5 words: Guillaume Lefebvre on the PP.

 

[FlyingPenguin]

Choose your fighter:

Phil's cooked and we're stuck with Carter, but if anybody genuinely tries to tell me they wouldn't do a Carter-for-Kessel swap given the opportunity I'm going to assume they're secretly Mike Sullivan.

 

[SomeDude]

It's definitely not nostalgia to want a guy who is arguably the worst forward, defensively speaking, in the league who has also lost just about all offensive ability due to age. Yeah, Phil's garbage.

Remember when the corpse of Alexei Kovalev came back and he couldn’t even get his number off of Craig Adams?

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Remember when the corpse of Alexei Kovalev came back and he couldn’t even get his number off of Craig Adams?

Man, that was such a bummer as someone who loved the Straka Lang Kovalev line.

 

[Ugene Magic]

For 1.0 what the hell do you expect?

He'd still be the best forward in the bottom six regardless.

Choose your fighter:

At least use updated ones and not ones before last season.

That's his 8 goals 44 assist for 52 points and -24

Last year he was 14 goals 22 assists for 36 points and only -7

 

[BobCole]

Remember when the corpse of Alexei Kovalev came back and he couldn’t even get his number off of Craig Adams?

Man, I know this forum gives it to Sully, but Bylsma's hard on for the Adams - Vitale - Glass line was easily, easily the most infuriating thing I've endured as a fan during the Crosby era. Worse than Jack Johnson, worse than Beau Bennett's injuries, worse than the current PP and blown leads. I can't express how much I H-A-T-E-D that stupid god damn line.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Jack Johnson's the worst player, by far, to play for the Pens in the Sid era. But he also gave us the absurdly comical series of events against the Isles, so he wasn't a total loss.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Jack Johnson's the worst player, by far, to play for the Pens in the Sid era. But he also gave us the absurdly comical series of events against the Isles, so he wasn't a total loss.

Even the thumbnail is gold.

Dude looks like he just simultaneously smelled the grossest fart of all time and butt-chugged a gallon of Malört.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Even the thumbnail is gold.

Dude looks like he just simultaneously smelled the grossest fart of all time and butt-chugged a gallon of Malört.

Watching Jack Johnson play hockey in the present moment sucked. Looking back though, quite funny.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Why are we acting like Dejan has any sort of credibility at this point?

While true, I'd rather share what's out there and then let everyone take what they want from it.

Meanwhile, there's this guy out there who's got more skill than all six bodies in the bottom six.

Rymes with Fill Vessel.

Probably could get him very cheap from what I understand.

Have you watched Phil Kessel play in the last calendar year? He's done.

 

[Gurglesons]

Even the thumbnail is gold.

Dude looks like he just simultaneously smelled the grossest fart of all time and butt-chugged a gallon of Malört.

If Mike Sullivan would’ve had players that could move the puck and skate he would play them over Jack Johnson. Fire Hextall.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Phil's cooked and we're stuck with Carter, but if anybody genuinely tries to tell me they wouldn't do a Carter-for-Kessel swap given the opportunity I'm going to assume they're secretly Mike Sullivan.

Kessel is just as bad as Carter at this point. There is no justification for arguing anything otherwise.

 

[chethejet]

Yes Carter bought a house here but so what. I proposed a deal to the ducks for Vetrano with him back to LA, just not the kings. Ducks retain 1 million per to make money work. Pens add a 3rd round pick in 2025. Ducks free up 3 million for 2024/25. Doesn't free up cap space but next year with Vetrano Pens still have 15 million with Shea gone and Dubas has options in his top 9 for next year. I always like Vetrano and he would be a nice add here. Now I am not in the camp for an extension for Guentzel so Vetrano allows for DOC to move up a line and now you have next year:
DOC Sid Rakell
Smith Geno Rust
Acciari Ellers Vetrano
Nieto Poulin ?

 

[Empoleon8771]

At least use updated ones and not ones before last season.

That's his 8 goals 44 assist for 52 points and -24

Last year he was 14 goals 22 assists for 36 points and only -7

So what you’re saying is that his offensive performance dipped by 33% while he’s still trash defensively, offers no physicality and legitimately doesn’t look like he’s trying at times.

What a sales pitch!

 

[Ugene Magic]

So the guy who can still score who can compliment a couple defensive guys with some youth in O'Connor and vet center in Eller is way worse than what they currently have.

I'd say the extreme other way is worse.

But good talks. Yes, I've seen him play. He's 35 and not that of 38/39 Carter. Kessel was never about defense.

 

[Empoleon8771]

So the guy who can still score who can compliment a couple defensive guys with some youth in O'Connor and vet center in Eller is way worse than what they currently have.

I'd say the extreme other way is worse.

But good talks. Yes, I've seen him play. He's 35 and not that of 38/39 Carter. Kessel was never about defense.

Why can Kessel do that but not Carter?

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Kessel sucks shit, but I would bring him back just to see Sullivan lose his mind with frustration, and inevitably become known as the coach who healthy scratched Phil to kill the ironman streak.

 

[Andy99]

Kessel sucks shit, but I would bring him back just to see Sullivan lose his mind with frustration, and inevitably become known as the coach who healthy scratched Phil to kill the ironman streak.

Hey, if it helps get Sullivan fired, I’m in favor of bringing Phil back lol…

 

[Jacob]

Kessel is done. The only way I’d take him over Carter is if it saves cap room.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Jack Johnson's the worst player, by far, to play for the Pens in the Sid era. But he also gave us the absurdly comical series of events against the Isles, so he wasn't a total loss.

The day we signed JMFJ was the day the cup window closed.

 

[Ryder71]

The day we signed JMFJ was the day the cup window closed.

Probably, but that likely happens regardless as we became stale and complacent as an organization.

 

[BusinessGoose]

The day we signed JMFJ was the day the cup window closed.

I still want to know why he was scratched in Columbus

 

[The Old Master]

Kessel sucks shit, but I would bring him back just to see Sullivan lose his mind with frustration, and inevitably become known as the coach who healthy scratched Phil to kill the ironman streak.

geno was ready to kill him before he left......why not bring him back, just so we can see geno finish the job.

 

[FlyingPenguin]

Kessel is just as bad as Carter at this point. There is no justification for arguing anything otherwise.

Yeah that's the joke. They're both cooked so I want the guy who's at least fun.

 

[Headshot77]

There’s no way LA is taking him back. They have aspirations of being a good team and already have cap issues and need to find a way to add a real goalie.

Carter has all the power. If he doesn’t want to go anywhere, he’s not going anywhere. If he was willing to go anywhere, he’d be in SJ right now finishing up his career in the California sun.

Dubas isn’t going to tell Sullivan to sit him, either.

LA: Ned + Carter
Third team: dead cap and picks
PIT: Copley and a 3RD

It looks logical on paper.