Salary Cap: Pens 2024 Summer Thread: "Thus, knocking us out of these superior numbers when we emerge! Mr. President, we must not allow a non-playoff bound gap!"

[Turin]

Korpisalo was not that guy for Ottawa, and that contract was ass, but he's probably better than he showed last season.

 

[Empoleon8771]

That Ullmark trade doesn't really change my expectations with a Jarry move, just because Ullmark was basically traded for what I expected him to be traded for. I was thinking something like Forsberg, a 1st and a lesser piece like Tyler Boucher, it ended up basically that but with Korpisalo in place of Ullmark. Feel free to debate Boston's thinking there, but it seems like they thought of Korpisalo as having some value in that deal. Ullmark and Markstrom were basically traded for the same thing: late 1st and a minor piece.

My expectation for Jarry is a bad contract and some mild futures, something like Husso, Berggren and a 3rd from Detroit. I don't think the Ullmark move really increases or decreases that expectation.

 

[66-30-33]

I hope if we trade Jarry we don't do something stupid like sign Samsonov.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Or the returns are so bad, Boston had to settle on what they got to move on from Ullmark?

Nobody is trading for Jarry. There isn’t even a team that makes sense for him to be traded to with LA, NJ, and OTT all filling in their spots.

The goalie market is far from settled.

The Flyers have Fedotov, who has three whole NHL games to his name, and Errsson, who was awful.

Are the Blues committed to Binnington? What does Colorado want to do with Georgiev? What does Toronto do besides Woll? Does Carolina make a move behind Kochetkov or does it keep Freddie Andersen? What does Buffalo do with UPL as an RFA? Does San Jose want to do anything besides kick the can down the road to free agency next year with Mackenzie Blackwood?

And as @Empoleon8771 has repeatedly mentioned, Detroit is an obvious candidate to potential change its goalie room.

Are all of these potential destinations for Jarry? No, of course not. But the decisions they make could alter the market for Jarry, including making it more appealing. Detroit is a great example. They could pitch a few of the UFAs, but what if they prefer to go to Colorado, Toronto, and even St. Louis to potentially see if they could unseat Binnington? Suddenly, Detroit is sitting without any upgrades in net after it being a huge weak point last year.

 

[McGroarty2]

Yeah. I think the Zucker trade can best be summed up as "utterly inconsequential" to both sides.

Speaking of... there is a lame move I'd almost half expect the Penguins to make this offseason.

"Hey guys... look who it is! 'Member? He did the Jagr salute that one time! 'MEMBER?!?"

I'd be more than fine with trading Smith for a 3rd and signing Zucker to 2 yr contract @$4mil per.

 

[Coastal Kev]

I hope if we trade Jarry we don't do something stupid like sign Samsonov.

Get me Duclair and Bertuzzi and I'll write love songs for Dubas

 

[Honour Over Glory]

@Honour Over Glory, I think you could potentially get a 1st for MP28 at the deadline if you retain 50%.

At the draft, I don't see it.

He's in the final year so I think if they retained they'd be looking at a team picking 15-20 type of first for him. He's what, 29? Has built up a solid reputation as a reliable defenseman that has a solid outlet pass but has a tendency to lead the league for being hit the most. If you look at his size and build, that's a modern marvel.

I'd be more than fine with trading Smith for a 3rd and signing Zucker to 2 yr contract @$4mil per.

Zucker, Crosby, Rust
Bunting, Malkin, Rakell

I am admittedly a Zucker fan from before so I'll always be down for that. Smith for Zucker was such a bad swap on the roster.

 

[McGroarty2]

He's in the final year so I think if they retained they'd be looking at a team picking 15-20 type of first for him. He's what, 29? Has built up a solid reputation as a reliable defenseman that has a solid outlet pass but has a tendency to lead the league for being hit the most. If you look at his size and build, that's a modern marvel.


Zucker, Crosby, Rust
Bunting, Malkin, Rakell

I am admittedly a Zucker fan from before so I'll always be down for that. Smith for Zucker was such a bad swap on the roster.

Upgrade Puusy and Poulin via trade/UFA...

Zucker Crosby Rust
Bunting Malkin Rakell
O'Connor Eller Puustinen
Poulin Acciari Puljujarvi
Gruden Ponomarev

 

[Coastal Kev]

We failed once trading for Zucker; let's give another try via free agency????

Farts in English

 

[chethejet]

I think smith will be traded as the fit just wasn't what Dubas expected to be. Cap space and getting size and grit if what I prefer. Teams have cap space for the first time in years and I look to see lots of moves at the draft.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Upgrade Puusy and Poulin via trade/UFA...

Zucker Crosby Rust
Bunting Malkin Rakell
O'Connor Eller Puustinen
Poulin Acciari Puljujarvi
Gruden Ponomarev

Moving Puustinen would be a mistake imo. I'd move Poulin though. I mean I am still in the camp that feels Puustinen should be the 2nd line RW and Rakell the top line LW.

Eller needs to be the 4c. And the 3rd line needs to be used like a 3rd line and not another 4th. I still love Roslovic for that 3c job. If you get Roslovic then I'm fine with Puustinen there with him and Doc because then you have a 3c that is skilled and can produce.

Even in that scenario you get Roslovic and Zucker and dump Smith, liberate Jarry from this asshat fandom, and you got cap. I'd maybe move Pettersson as well for a first if possible or I'm also fine if Dubas targets a team with multiple 2nds and adds 2 second rounders for him.

Sign a LD for a season or two as a stop gap to see how Pickering develops in that time.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

The Penguins already have Jason Zucker. His name is Drew O'Connor and he's six years younger.

 

[Gurglesons]

The goalie market is far from settled.

The Flyers have Fedotov, who has three whole NHL games to his name, and Errsson, who was awful.

Are the Blues committed to Binnington? What does Colorado want to do with Georgiev? What does Toronto do besides Woll? Does Carolina make a move behind Kochetkov or does it keep Freddie Andersen? What does Buffalo do with UPL as an RFA? Does San Jose want to do anything besides kick the can down the road to free agency next year with Mackenzie Blackwood?

And as @Empoleon8771 has repeatedly mentioned, Detroit is an obvious candidate to potential change its goalie room.

Are all of these potential destinations for Jarry? No, of course not. But the decisions they make could alter the market for Jarry, including making it more appealing. Detroit is a great example. They could pitch a few of the UFAs, but what if they prefer to go to Colorado, Toronto, and even St. Louis to potentially see if they could unseat Binnington? Suddenly, Detroit is sitting without any upgrades in net after it being a huge weak point last year.

Typical cope.

Toronto is signing Woll and going for a back up.

Teams like Detroit and St Louis aren’t going to make multiple trades to acquire a shit goalie like Jarry.

If we are moving Jarry it’s going to be with a pick just like Korpi.

 

[SomeDude]

Looks like Kyle is left without a dance partner.

Who am I kidding? He wasn’t going to trade Jarry. If anything he’d appeal to the league to let us sign him to an extension 3 years before his deal expires like Sully.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Almost expect them to trade Jarry to BOS for Korpisalo

 

[MayorofWBS]

Bringing back Zucker is a total trash heap move this FO/ownership deserves....uninspired and unimaginative. Sounds par for the course.

 

[Gurglesons]

Looks like Kyle is left without a dance partner.

Who am I kidding? He wasn’t going to trade Jarry. If anything he’d appeal to the league to let us sign him to an extension 3 years before his deal expires like Sully.

Just be patient.

 

[Gurglesons]

Kevin is one of the smartest goalie minds in the media.

 

[Turin]

Kevin is one of the smartest goalie minds in the media.

That's definitely what they're banking on, and I can see it. That's exactly what LA did - controlled defensive environment got him a huge contract.

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

If we are moving Jarry it’s going to be with a pick just like Korpi.

What are you talking about? It’s not like they moved Korpi and the pick for nothing they got a great goalie in return. Another horrible take.

 

[Gurglesons]

What are you talking about? It’s not like they moved Korpi and the pick for nothing they got a great goalie in return. Another horrible take.

It's funny how bad this board is at comprehending ACTUAL trade value.

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

It's funny how bad this board is at comprehending ACTUAL trade value.

Ok bud lol. Carry on with the nonstop complaining.

 

[Tom Hanks]

The goalie market is far from settled.

The Flyers have Fedotov, who has three whole NHL games to his name, and Errsson, who was awful.

Are the Blues committed to Binnington? What does Colorado want to do with Georgiev? What does Toronto do besides Woll? Does Carolina make a move behind Kochetkov or does it keep Freddie Andersen? What does Buffalo do with UPL as an RFA? Does San Jose want to do anything besides kick the can down the road to free agency next year with Mackenzie Blackwood?

And as @Empoleon8771 has repeatedly mentioned, Detroit is an obvious candidate to potential change its goalie room.

Are all of these potential destinations for Jarry? No, of course not. But the decisions they make could alter the market for Jarry, including making it more appealing. Detroit is a great example. They could pitch a few of the UFAs, but what if they prefer to go to Colorado, Toronto, and even St. Louis to potentially see if they could unseat Binnington? Suddenly, Detroit is sitting without any upgrades in net after it being a huge weak point last year.

Saros might be traded too, rumours they don’t want to re-sign him at the price he’ll want. Preds don’t need a goalie in return though.

 

[Darren McCord]

If we are moving Jarry it’s going to be with a pick just like Korpi.

I mean then we just shouldn't move him. There is no desperate need to move Jarry.

 

[BusinessGoose]

I mean then we just shouldn't move him. There is no desperate need to move Jarry.

Hey, are you writing dubas' July 1st speech already?!