Salary Cap: Pens 2024 Summer Thread: "Thus, knocking us out of these superior numbers when we emerge! Mr. President, we must not allow a non-playoff bound gap!"

[HandshakeLine]

New York Rangers seem to have no issues attracting talent, and they are one of the highest taxes states/cities in the country.

One should factor in any additional income players can make through local sponsorships/deals/promo/commercials/etc. Probably more in large markets.

Also one should look at the median. I don't think the 3% gap in tax between Florida and Pittsburgh is significant enough. A $5M Florida salary turns into a $5.15M salary in Pittsburgh.

I'm sure tax is a factor, but if it was significant, I'm sure they would have factored that into the cap with an adjustment of some sort.

Yeah. The reality of the situation is that players are social creatures and have their own preferences for places to live or things they'll tolerate/sacrifice for those locations. At the end of the day, some players prefer to live in big cities like New York or LA or Chicago, others prefer smaller markets, and others prefer living in the middle of nowhere, a condition most behavioral psychologists describe as "going Canadian."

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Yeah. The reality of the situation is that players are social creatures and have their own preferences for places to live or things they'll tolerate/sacrifice for those locations. At the end of the day, some players prefer to live in big cities like New York or LA or Chicago, others prefer smaller markets, and others prefer living in the middle of nowhere, a condition most behavioral psychologists describe as "going Canadian."

Hey!

I resemble that remark.

 

[SEALBound]

Yeah. The reality of the situation is that players are social creatures and have their own preferences for places to live or things they'll tolerate/sacrifice for those locations. At the end of the day, some players prefer to live in big cities like New York or LA or Chicago, others prefer smaller markets, and others prefer living in the middle of nowhere, a condition most behavioral psychologists describe as "going Canadian."

If I remember correctly, Glencross didn't want a trade from Calgary because he loved living on the big ranch he bought outside of the city. Then you have the Sean Averys of the world.

I see why places like Raleigh and Nashville are popular. You still have all of the big city amenities without the "big city". Or you can at least escape the big city in a reasonable amount of time.

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

Yeah. The reality of the situation is that players are social creatures and have their own preferences for places to live or things they'll tolerate/sacrifice for those locations. At the end of the day, some players prefer to live in big cities like New York or LA or Chicago, others prefer smaller markets, and others prefer living in the middle of nowhere, a condition most behavioral psychologists describe as "going Canadian."

As a Canadian AND American, I'm torn by that remark, part of me laughs, and part of me is insulted .

Also depends on how much attention the want...
Hockey players get more attention in smaller Canadian markets (Winnipeg, Edmonton, etc), than even large population markets in the US (Tampa, Dallas, etc). The big markets (Toronto/Montreal vs NY/Chicago) don't even compare.

That being said...
I agree, that those are all factors. Not to mention spouse + kids, and any immediate family.

We usually make the same decisions as well. How many of us move around to maybe "not the most money" due to other factors.

I'm waiting for the day an NHL athlete says outright that they chose location-A, because of taxes, during their professional career.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I think the tax break thing re: Florida is a little overstated.

You still have to live in FLORIDA after all.

 

[Ulf5]

I think the tax break thing re: Florida is a little overstated.

You still have to live in FLORIDA after all.

You got that right. They can stick that mid- 90's with 1000% humidity in November right up where the sun don't shine.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I think the tax break thing re: Florida is a little overstated.

You still have to live in FLORIDA after all.

Yeah but you get discounts on bath salts and meth.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Blake Coleman is one of the few Americans who chose Calgary and I doubt he is leaving anytime soon. He is from Texas and loves the "Calgary vibe". I could totally see that.

Back to the Eller/Acciari thing, I always talk about moving Eller instead of Acciari because of two things:

- I ASSUME Eller has more trade value,

- Mike Sullivan.

Maybe I am wrong, maybe Acciari has more trade value than Eller. He is more versatile and grittier. Who knows. I also ASSUME that Acciari would be easier to leave on the fourth line in favor of younger players, but who knows? Maybe once we trade Eller, Sullivan annoints Acciari the third-line center by default.

Either way, we should move one out. Sure, you could move Acciari to wing but that just takes another roster spot for a young player.

Dubas needs to trade two forwards this summer. One obviously being Smith.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think the tax break thing re: Florida is a little overstated.

You still have to live in FLORIDA after all.

You're a wrong turn away from getting your face eaten off by a homeless guy tripping on bath salts in Florida.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

You're a wrong turn away from getting your face eaten off by a homeless guy tripping on bath salts in Florida.

Then stumble headlong into a like... gigantic snake riding around on an alligator only to barely escape, knock on someone's door for help and have them yell "HE'S COMIN' RIGHT FER US!" while they're blastin'

 

[Jacob]

Florida has nice weather, beaches, nice houses and neighborhoods. Multimillionaires will prefer Davis Island over Gibsonia especially in the winter.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I dunno how nice the weather is. I guess it depends on your tolerance to heat stroke.

But yeah there are clearly features of living in FL that you won't get in PA. Especially if you are a millionaire. Though I guess I'd say that if you have that much money it really shouldn't matter much where you live. You could be wherever you wanted tomorrow.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Hey!

I resemble that remark.

My research is peer reviewed by a panel of enthusiastic amateur drunks.

Florida has nice weather, beaches, nice houses and neighborhoods. Multimillionaires will prefer Davis Island over Gibsonia especially in the winter.

PA winters ain't shit. Chicago would like a word.

 

[Jacob]

I dunno how nice the weather is. I guess it depends on your tolerance to heat stroke.

But yeah there are clearly features of living in FL that you won't get in PA. Especially if you are a millionaire. Though I guess I'd say that if you have that much money it really shouldn't matter much where you live. You could be wherever you wanted tomorrow.

I’d be miserable in Florida but NHL players are average people of average intelligence. Mostly upper-middle-class suburbanites. Hot = nice.

 

[Turin]

I’d be miserable in Florida but NHL players are average people of average intelligence. Mostly upper-middle-class suburbanites. Hot = nice.

A lot also grew up in Canada or Russia, so yea hot does = nice after a while haha

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

As someone entrenched firmly in the middle class, I would never live in Florida because the options available to me would be completely undesirable. As a multi-millionaire, I would move to Florida in a heartbeat, because the options available to me are incredible. It's the same thing with LA and San Diego.

Ever take a random amount of money and look across Zillow to see what you could afford in different parts of the country. I don't really want to live in Kentucky, but I just found a beautiful new 2k sqft 4bd/3ba home on two acres with a natural pond outside of Lexington. It wouldn't even be a lateral move financially. I'd be saving money over my 800 sqft condo in Reno.

 

[eXile3]

I wouldn’t live in Florida for all the money in the world.

 

[Maninthebox87]

Maybe the core is at the age now where UFAs can live out a boyhood dream of playing with Sid or Geno…. Maybe?

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Maybe the core is at the age now where UFAs can live out a boyhood dream of playing with Sid or Geno…. Maybe?

Yeah Colorado should sign Sid to fulfill that dream for Mac.
Then the Pens are off the hook for 10.5M x 3 until he's 40, during years that they should be restocking.

 

[HandshakeLine]

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As someone entrenched firmly in the middle class, I would never live in Florida because the options available to me would be completely undesirable. As a multi-millionaire, I would move to Florida in a heartbeat, because the options available to me are incredible. It's the same thing with LA and San Diego.

Ever take a random amount of money and look across Zillow to see what you could afford in different parts of the country. I don't really want to live in Kentucky, but I just found a beautiful new 2k sqft 4bd/3ba home on two acres with a natural pond outside of Lexington. It wouldn't even be a lateral move financially. I'd be saving money over my 800 sqft condo in Reno.

You should see the condo I bought in downtown Mogudishu.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

You should see the condo I bought in downtown Mogudishu.

I can't find the GIF I want of the glass breaking for no reason at the Bluth's model home.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I wouldn’t live in Florida for all the money in the world.

Nah you just have to go to the uppity rich white people areas

With a bunch of money, I'd absolutely go live in like Key West or something like that.

 

[Gurglesons]

I wouldn’t live in Florida for all the money in the world.

The weather there is horrible. Not sure what the attraction is.

 

[HandshakeLine]

The weather there is horrible. Not sure what the attraction is.

If you're a mosquito, it's the blood and the people with lots of exotic chemicals in their bloodstream.

 

[SEALBound]

Seems relevant: 10 States People Are Fleeing And 10 States People Are Moving To

I'm staying where I am.