GDT: Penguins Trade Deadline thread: What can we get for 3 packs of gum and a signed hockey puck?

We want?!

  • A shrubbery

    Votes: 25 22.5%
  • Chychrun

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • Karlsson

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • Some other big name player

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Gritty bottom 6 player

    Votes: 11 9.9%
  • Gritty bottom pairing defenseman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Offensive bottom pairing defenseman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Goalie

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • Some crazy move out of left field

    Votes: 16 14.4%
  • To be sellers

    Votes: 32 28.8%

  • Total voters
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*** Keep this thread to Penguins related trades, rumors, rumblings, etc only please.***

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Keep NHL related talk to this thread please:
 

Andy99

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I don't want Hextall to sign or trade any other players.

He doesn't have a plan and he's basically closed the window for the Pens. This is just rando shit from a rando GM. He's basically "quiet" JR.
No, I meant a new GM…Hextall has to be fired by the draft
 
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Rossi’s overthinking it. The core guys are skilled guys that are on the same wavelength as a Granlund and probably respect his game and will like playing with him. Same reason they all liked Phil even though he was an oddball that doesn’t fit into any system or resemble any kind of playoff warrior.
Yeah. I mean who knows what they personally think but I know publicly Sid is probably already texting Granlund saying he's excited to have him blah blah blah.

They'll do everything they can to welcome him and get him to play well. That's how this leadership group has always been.

And I guarantee that they don't give a flying f*** about what the analytics say.
 

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"He's basically closed the window for the Pens"

Sorry for the bad news, but their window has been closed since like 2019

I've been saying that for awhile but he's literally slammed the door shut even for next year. But- I could see a new GM saying ... we can fix this and tossing away all of our draft picks out f***ing us NOW and LATER.... (this is a real possibility now)

"Game over... man"
 

ChaosAgent

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They're probably walking up to him saying "your xGF%Rel is 3% worse than everyone else on this team? You must be dogshit!!!!" as they dunk his head in the toilet to give him a swirlie
I think they just earnestly appraise the situation by looking with disgust at every player HFPens doesn't like, quietly despising Sullivan despite all indications to the contrary and earnestly stare in each other's eyes and say "we all we got"
 

Ryder71

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Team hasn’t had it in 5 years.

Between that hot take and Yohes “I won’t be complimentary”. Im sure Hextall is terrified.
Exactly, we haven't won a damn thing in 5 years, this year will be no different. But let's not exacerbate the matter by further mortgaging the future.
 

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I hope Granlund comes in here and goes ape shit, the. Watch


Just wish there we had more sensible people who can just call it like it is either way. These other drama queens have had the spotlight far too long.
I think there are some good hockey reporters / media in Pittsburgh, but they are quiet and respectful and sane, so they don’t soak up as much attention. I was gonna say “everyone,” but decided to stick to those 3 because they’re the biggest / main issues
 
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Yeah. I mean who knows what they personally think but I know publicly Sid is probably already texting Granlund saying he's excited to have him blah blah blah.

They'll do everything they can to welcome him and get him to play well. That's how this leadership group has always been.

And I guarantee that they don't give a flying f*** about what the analytics say.

The guys love Zucker and this is his former line mate.

I dunno. Granlund was at one point considered the best prospect outside of the NHL. He’s a skilled guy and he fits in with what we have built. It just sucks to add that contract and the same type of player we always f***ing add..
 

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It's comical that Yohe or Rossi or anyone in the media would think that the players would give up mentally or not be excited about Granlund coming here.

Do I like the move? f*** no. But the players don't think like I do. I guarantee Sid doesn't give a shit about Jfresh player cards or what Shirey or anyone thinks about how a player might fit.

This deal won't affect the team mentally in the slightest other than maybe being upset McGinn got sent down.

The guys love Zucker and this is his former line mate.

I dunno. Granlund was at one point considered the best prospect outside of the NHL. He’s a skilled guy and he fits in with what we have built. It just sucks.
Yeah I mean like I said I do not like the deal whatsoever. But I guarantee the players don't think like I do.
 

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It's comical that Yohe or Rossi or anyone in the media would think that the players would give up mentally or not be excited about Granlund coming here.

Do I like the move? f*** no. But the players don't think like I do. I guarantee Sid doesn't give a shit about Jfresh player cards or what Shirey or anyone thinks about how a player might fit.

This deal won't affect the team mentally in the slightest other than maybe being upset McGinn got sent down.


Yeah I mean like I said I do not like the deal whatsoever. But I guarantee the players don't think like I do.

Yeah they probably are more pissed about losing McGinn and Blueger then adding Granlund.
 
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No, I meant a new GM…Hextall has to be fired by the draft
Who's taking over GM duties? I don't know many names that are available. Maybe Benning but I dunno, he did bring a ton of skill to Canucks didnt he? I am gonna take a wild guess and say Chiarelli. :sarcasm:
 

ChaosAgent

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Next year is Granlund lining up at LW? If so, is he replacing Guentzel or the Zuck? I still think best course is resign Zuck to 3/$12 and then move Guentzel for the Debrincat package
 

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It's comical that Yohe or Rossi or anyone in the media would think that the players would give up mentally or not be excited about Granlund coming here.

Do I like the move? f*** no. But the players don't think like I do. I guarantee Sid doesn't give a shit about Jfresh player cards or what Shirey or anyone thinks about how a player might fit.

This deal won't affect the team mentally in the slightest other than maybe being upset McGinn got sent down.


Yeah I mean like I said I do not like the deal whatsoever. But I guarantee the players don't think like I do.
I think it’s more the fact that the other teams in the east drastically improved while we…uhhh…didn’t.
 

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I still think another move might happen. I think this is the least they wanted to do, and if something avails itself and appears in the next day or so I'm sure they're going to try and go for that. But at least they did upgrade the bottom six. And this scheme of things it won't much matter, but I'd rather have Granlund than Teddy. I know about cap space and such but, there's worse things in life I guess.
 

AuroraBorealis

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So what do we think the plan is for Granlund? I don't love the thought of him at 3c at all. I'd almost rather put him on Malkin or Crosby's wing and move one of the other guys to the third line. I think Zucker or Rust would have a more positive impact on line three than Granlund is likely to.

Tbh, I'd almost consider doing this:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rakell
Granlund-Malkin-Rust or acquisition
Zucker-Carter-Rust or acquisition

Sullivan won't do that but I could see it making sense. Try to balance out three lines. I dunno. We don't have the personnel to do it now though. We'd need one more at least marginal top 9 forward to do what I suggest.


The Pens will probably just Granlund on line three in some capacity and I will hate it

Also I'll add that if Granlund gets 75% D-zone starts with the wrong wingers then that's a Sullivan issue, not a personnel issue.
 

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I've been saying that for awhile but he's literally slammed the door shut even for next year. But- I could see a new GM saying ... we can fix this and tossing all of our draft picks out f***ing us NOW and LATER.... (this is a real possibility now)

"Game over... man"

It’s been game over though. These guys all got up in years at once. They aren’t at the end of the road but they aren’t in any shape to carry a team through the playoffs anymore either.

From a pure business standpoint. Malkin and Letang should have been set free. You could have used all that cap to acquire younger players. Start getting youthful - then you can carry Sid and try to compete until he’s 40 or whatever. You just can’t have 3 aging guys like that making that kind of money. It’s too much of a handicap.
 
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The more I think about this - this has to be a plan to play him and Zucker on third line. For every cup win, there was a 3rd line that was productive. Next ingredient in that recipe is firing the coach.

I mean a cup is not happening. However Zucker and Granlund going lights out together would cause some issues for other teams. Eventually Boston or Carolina won’t have any of it.

I don’t know.
Yeah, but then that presumes this wild trade idea was born out of a concept which involves taking Zucker AWAY from Geno, who he has developed chemistry and where he is finally having a signature year with us.

I get the idea of having three scoring lines, and I love that concept, but if it means they’re just booting Heinen up to L2 then we are seriously screwed.

Every way you look at it, this seems like an absolutely lousy deal, unless you have a crystal ball that Granlund is definitely having a career revival here. But the cap hit, the additional years, the diving numbers, etc. it’s all just a massively underwhelming fart.

The thing is still can’t wrap my head around is the money cleared in the last few days to wind up with…this? The bottom six sucked, yes, but somehow we had cleared 6 million and recouped assets for it…only to make sure we carry five million for 2 more years on a long shot bet? It’s like having a garage sale, working hard to sell your stuff to get some cash in your pocket. But instead of buying a new tool or piece of furniture, something that you might need and use to improve your life, you dump it all into buying Amway. Sure, if you squint hard enough, you might see a future where you benefit. But most of the people around you are incredulously asking “wait, you did WHAT?” And making you feel Iike the dumbest guy in the room. And you’re going to be left owning that decision for years.
 
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DesertedPenguin

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If ownership allowed Hextall to make this move I doubt he gets fired tbh.
Unless all they told him was, "We'll eat whatever salaries you have to bury. Show us you have a vision."

And then they'll see how it works out over the next few months, get feedback from everyone in the organization, and go from there.
 

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Weren't there reports saying the cap was going up at least 4mil next season?

Not that that makes granlund at 5 mil any better, but it helps fill out the rest of the roster
 
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