GDT: Penguins Trade Deadline thread: What can we get for 3 packs of gum and a signed hockey puck?

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[dogthateats]

Who is the best playmaker Malkin has ever played with? I know he is kinda the playmaker himself

 

[Ryder71]

I think it’s more the fact that the other teams in the east drastically improved while we…uhhh…didn’t.

Here's why, they had more assets, cap space and draft picks over the last few years and didn't piss them away like We have. That's what happens when you have generational talents like we had year in a year out. Those guys needed to be paid. So other teams had more cap flexibility at least in the last couple few years. We were at the top of the mountain for a long time, let's be thankful for that. But the show is over and it has been for a while now. Maybe now reality is setting in for some of you.

 

[ChaosAgent]

I am guessing Granlund replaces Zucker. Cheaper and gets more points and not injured like Zucker has been since getting here.

I just hate the way Guentzel plays, as far as star players go. I like the production but it's so floaty and soft. I don't think it is what Sid needs moving forward. That plus you could seriously cash in on value with him.

 

[DeadPuckEra]

Weren't there reports saying the cap was going up at least 4mil next season?

Not that that makes granlund at 5 mil any better, but it helps fill out the rest of the roster

NHL doesn’t seem like it’s in the greatest spot right now. Might affect that.

 

[Pancakes]

Here's why, they had more assets, cap space and draft picks over the last few years and didn't piss them away like We have. That's what happens when you have generational talents like we had year in a year out. Those guys needed to be paid. So other teams had more cap flexibility at least in the last couple few years. We were at the top of the mountain for a long time, let's be thankful for that. But the show is over and it has been for a while now. Maybe now reality is setting in for some of you.

We had enough assets to do better than Hextall did

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Who is the best playmaker Malkin has ever played with? I know he is kinda the playmaker himself

Phil, easily.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Who is the best playmaker Malkin has ever played with? I know he is kinda the playmaker himself

Jussi Jokinen?

 

[DesertedPenguin]

It’s been game over though. These guys all got up in years at once. They aren’t at the end of the road but they aren’t in any shape to carry a team through the playoffs anymore either.

From a pure business standpoint. Malkin and Letang should have been set free. You could have used all that cap to acquire younger players. Start getting youthful - then you can carry Sid and try to compete until he’s 40 or whatever. You just can’t have 3 aging guys like that making that kind of money. It’s too much of a handicap.

You would have paid more for younger players. That was the benefit of them sticking around.

Plus, Malkin and Letang haven't been the problem. It's the bottom six that have been the issue.

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

It’s been game over though. These guys all got up in years at once. They aren’t at the end of the road but they aren’t in any shape to carry a team through the playoffs anymore either.

From a pure business standpoint. Malkin and Letang should have been set free. You could have used all that cap to acquire younger players. Start getting youthful - then you can carry Sid and try to compete until he’s 40 or whatever. You just can’t have 3 aging guys like that making that kind of money. It’s too much of a handicap.

Sure but with the 20+ million in Cap Space would could have tried. Now we can't do anything.

Like I said, a new GM might come in and waste all those picks trying to trade off contracts to cycle through again...

So bad.

 

[Ryder71]

We had enough assets to do better than Hextall did

Meh

 

[Gurglesons]

Unless all they told him was, "We'll eat whatever salaries you have to bury. Show us you have a vision."

And then they'll see how it works out over the next few months, get feedback from everyone in the organization, and go from there.

Doesn’t seem like that lol

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

You would have paid more for younger players. That was the benefit of them sticking around.

Plus, Malkin and Letang haven't been the problem. It's the bottom six that have been the issue.

And now we are stuck with the entire Bottom 6 next year and the next... (unless we trade picks/contracts)

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Doesn’t seem like that lol

Happens in business all the time, and I'm sure it happens in sports. Someone is essentially given the resources needed to prove themselves one last time. If they botch it again, they're gone.

 

[Extra Texture]

From theathletic



Sick.

Holy shit, those takedowns are f***ing lethal. WOW.

It’s hard to square this with what Hextall last year, adding Rackell at a reasonable price. That was so risk averse. This is like the Carter move all over again. Except, if we gave Carter the extension before he played a single minute for us.

Hextall has dialed up the risk factor so high in this one for a modest comparable gain. I wonder if he knows he is going to likely to be fired in June, and thinks “I need a Hail Mary, and if I get anything less than that I’m toast anyway.” Like, he doesn’t mind throwing away the cap, because he will be unemployed in June barring a miracle, and him looking like a genius as Granlund goes PPG down the stretch or something

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Jussi Jokinen?

It's Phil. Dude had 55 and 58 assists in the last 2 years here. PP QB too, with 42 PPP's one year and 36 in the last one.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

And now we are stuck with the entire Bottom 6 next year and the next... (unless we trade picks/contracts)

Well, Heinen and Archibald are UFAs. Poehling and O'Connor are RFAs. So are Puustinen and Hallander.

So you could go young....hooray.

 

[ChaosAgent]

It's Phil. Dude had 55 and 58 assists in the last 2 years here. PP QB too, with 42 PPP's one year.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Good call

 

[Andy99]

what’s so perplexing is Hextall’s apparent take or lack thereof on this team after watching 90% of the games…I mean how could anyone look at this team so far this year and think “You know what we need for our bottom six? To get rid of three underperforming forwards in exchange for one, even higher paid, underperforming forward who doesn’t have size, grit, defensive prowess and doesn’t even forecheck like a mother, which is how the coach plays.” Does the GM even watch the team lol

 

[66-30-33]

I just hate the way Guentzel plays, as far as star players go. I like the production but it's so floaty and soft. I don't think it is what Sid needs moving forward. That plus you could seriously cash in on value with him.

I don't think Crosby will be happy losing him. I also dunno what he fetches. I don't want picks, rather have young players.

 

[Gurglesons]

Sure but with the 20+ million in Cap Space would could have tried. Now we can't do anything.

Like I said, a new GM might come in and waste all those picks trying to trade off contracts to cycle through again...

So bad.

We have 20 mil in cap space next year still

 

[Pens x]

Does the GM even watch the team lol

The answer is no.

 

[ChaosAgent]

I don't think Crosby will be happy losing him. I also dunno what he fetches. I don't want picks, rather have young players.

Crosby would benefit immensely from someone like this year's Zucker.

Guentzel is also a net negative to the first powerplay

 

[Gurglesons]

Well, Heinen and Archibald are UFAs. Poehling and O'Connor are RFAs. So are Puustinen and Hallander.

So you could go young....hooray.

Honestly Granlund and Big Puusy could be a good match if you want to play possession based hockey.

 

[Pancakes]

We have 20 mil in cap space next year still

At this point that scares me more than excites me

 

[Ryder71]

The guys love Zucker and this is his former line mate.

I dunno. Granlund was at one point considered the best prospect outside of the NHL. He’s a skilled guy and he fits in with what we have built. It just sucks to add that contract and the same type of player we always f***ing add..

Well, it was either him or McDavid.