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[Pancakes]

Why wouldn't he have been taken? Whether you want to look at it from:

1. Seattle could have taken him and flipped him for a good futures return
2. Seattle could have taken him and played him as a top-6 center

Nothing there tells me that Carter was safe in the expansion draft if left exposed.

Seattle's current top-9 centers are Gourde, McCann and Jarnkrok. Jarnkrok hasn't been a regular center since 2016-2017 and McCann has never been a regular center outside of injuries.

Mainly he's old and there were other good options for Seattle to take. Tanev or Zucker always seemed more likely to me. ZAR as well even.

I don't think he was for sure safe so I understand why the Pens opted to protect him but I feel like there was a good chance he would have slipped through. It's irrelevant in any case because losing Tanev is an acceptable outcome.

 

[Gurglesons]

Excellent point on the context of the Zucker trade

-Jake was injured
-Not many wingers available we could afford

Also, Coleman isn't better.

 

[SEALBound]

Jesus f***ing Christ what a train wreck the last couple of pages have been.

Doc, read the Art of War. Only start battles you know you can win.

Still unclear on WTF a "UFA style contract" is...

 

[SEALBound]

Excellent point on the context of the Zucker trade

-Jake was injured
-Not many wingers available we could afford

And who had the capacity to take on Galchenyuk. I really enjoyed his time when he first got here with Sid and Rust. Once Jake was back and with the schedule bomb that covid produced, he regressed obviously. With McCann and Tanev gone, I hope they keep him and he bounces back because that is what the team needs first and foremost. Not "cap" to sign a guy you hope produces at where we hope Zucker produces at for more than $5.5mil. That's best-case scenario for us then we can worry about filling out the top 6.

 

[Nakawick]

Sucks we lost Tanev and McCann and gained a maybe 3/4 center in a couple years and a token 7th round scratch ticket.

 

[Gurglesons]

Sucks we lost Tanev and McCann and gained a maybe 3/4 center in a couple years and a token 7th round scratch ticket.

I'm very happy with this part of the decision.

The scary part is what we do with the cap space.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Wtf we lost Turbo?

 

[Nakawick]

I'm very happy with this part of the decision.

The scary part is what we do with the cap space.

Flip Hallender and the 7th for MAF. Neat and tight.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Shadow edit: if Zucker is worth $5.5M...what are McCann and Rust worth?

$5.5M? $7.5M?

If this team gave Zucker half the chances Rust gets in the top 6, he’d be worth his salary.

 

[domaug]

Wtf we lost Turbo?

not "official" yet but the reports seem to say that Tanev is who Seattle is drafting tonight

 

[Honour Over Glory]

not "official" yet but the reports seem to say that Tanev is who Seattle is drafting tonight

Someone start making Pettersson trend on the twitter thing.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

That Seattle team looks f***ing awful so far. Some of these picks are the sort of shit you take if you want to make sure fans never show up and you tank for picks.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

That Seattle team looks f***ing awful so far. Some of these picks are the sort of shit you take if you want to make sure fans never show up and you tank for picks.

Seems like they are angling for giant swaths of cap space they can leverage for further assets. Perhaps they are in no hurry to compete. Or maybe they use the space for bigger deals as the Summer unfolds.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Seems like they are angling for giants swaths of cap space they can leverage for further assets. Perhaps they are in no hurry to compete. Or maybe they use the space for bigger deals as the Summer unfolds.

I mean Tarasenko is 100% healthy and would be a solid add, but no lets take some marginal NHL’ers.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I mean Tarasenko is 100% healthy and would be a solid add, but no lets take some marginal NHL’ers.

Is he, though?

I would personally take a chance on a retained Tarasenko but I didn't realize HOW messed up his whole injury saga really was/is. If I'm Seattle I'm interested but not at the full price.

I also thought he was younger than he is, for some reason.

 

[Pens x]

Flip Hallender and the 7th for MAF. Neat and tight.

We need two third line players too.

 

[Jacob]

It also seems like Seattle valued grit and character pretty highly. Lotta late rounders or undrafted, guys that spent a long time in the minors, even 3 ECHL alumni. They’re going to buy in and be hard to play against though on paper they still only look like a .500 club.

 

[Gurglesons]

We need two third line players too.

At least you can just copy and past your posts from last summer this summer.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

That Seattle team looks f***ing awful so far. Some of these picks are the sort of shit you take if you want to make sure fans never show up and you tank for picks.

Seattle seems to be opting for the "old school expansion" approach of taking crap rather than Vegas' approach of taking guys who can make them competitive immediately.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Jared McCracken

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

At least you can just copy and past your posts from when you joined this site this summer.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Seattle seems to be opting for the "old school expansion" approach of taking crap rather than Vegas' approach of taking guys who can make them competitive immediately.

Thing is you want fans to be excited, Vegas knew that and went for some big names that they could market.

Who the f*** are you marketing in Seattle?

“LETS GET KRAKEN TO BAYREUTHER AND GEEKIE!”

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Seattle seems to be opting for the "old school expansion" approach of taking crap rather than Vegas' approach of taking guys who can make them competitive immediately.

I think this is it, yeah. But still a lot of Summer left.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Is he, though?

I would personally take a chance on a retained Tarasenko but I didn't realize HOW messed up his whole injury saga really was/is. If I'm Seattle I'm interested but not at the full price.

I also thought he was younger than he is, for some reason.

I think he’s ok now, he was pissed at how 2 of the 3 surgeries were handled, not all of them. He’s been cleared by his doctor this time and not the shitty ones the team botched. Even if he’s not, that sweet LTIR space that Tampa loves to wank to, would be available.

I mean Jake’s shoulder is a ticking time bomb as well since the Penguins doctors operated on it, they’re less competent than that on the Simpsons that, Dr Nick.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Much much different era and skill level now.

Back then there were only a handful of guys who could really play skillful hockey and those players took advantage of what would look like beer league skaters now.

Today the talent/training/skill has risen that there really aren't those pylons to dunk on anymore. You've got so many players on an even playing field. Sure there are outliers like Matthews, Crosby, MacK but the gap isn't as big as it once was.

I think there is too much parity where no one really stands out, hence I'm against further expansion.

I think not expanding only makes more parity and I'd agree with you there-- too much parity is boring, sadly.. One of the big things that kicked off the dead puck era was actually increased parity as teams started drafting Euros and ex-Soviets-- you went from having a handful of top players from the Canadian junior leagues and a very small handful of US hockey programs to bringing in generational players that would have never played in the NHL, barring a Šťastný-esque escape and having them join teams like the Canucks and Stars as well as the O6/'67 teams.

We'll probably never see an era like the 80s, but I'd be open for ideas to make scoring rise any day of the week.