Speculation: Penguins off day talk thread: Yes, Sully is still the coach

[66-30-33]

I can see Zucker getting up for that game, same for Logan vs his childhood team. Also the Coyotes this season have really come to play against the better teams in the league and while we know the Pens suck bollocks, the Coyotes will treat this team like it's Vegas and win.

I'd say they get humbled but nothing humbles this arrogant squad.

I hope our PP reaches 0 for 100, also could care less if we lose every game from here on out. This team is trash lead by a trash coach that's not done jack since his sophomore year except lose.

 

[BusinessGoose]

I'll be asking my agent for a trade, now

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Why do you guys entertain that poster?

It's mostly me, and my ADHD sometimes won't let me not reply to him

 

[HandshakeLine]

Imagine ending up on the same list as ronshair.

Considering Hair Dye hasn't posted in a while, are we sure they're not the same?

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Why do you guys entertain that poster?

I've always wondered why that type of poster is even allowed on HF. The act of trolling gets you infractions, so why wouldn't an account that's dedicated to nothing but trolling be okay? Seems counter to the whole "not allowed to troll" rule.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Because it's probably a mod's alt.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Hit most of the cliches right out of the gate

Doobler has truly sealed his own fate with this latest round of shite.

No chance this team makes the playoffs without a coaching change before the holidays.

 

[BusinessGoose]

I was promised an analytical GM

I think he's only analyzing his bank account

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I've always wondered why that type of poster is even allowed on HF. The act of trolling gets you infractions, so why wouldn't an account that's dedicated to nothing but trolling be okay? Seems counter to the whole "not allowed to troll" rule.

Jokingly mention Ovechkin's on steroids? Real shit.

Be a miserable f*** who trolls non-stop and gets into it with literally everyone who you interact with? All good.

 

[chrisp200]

I know everyone is pretty down bad on this team and Sully right now and rightfully so. However, lets keep in perspective that this team is doing well in the areas that we were most concerned about going into the season.

The Penguins are 3rd in the league in goals against.

Once we start finding the net on the PP, we will start winning. The PP will be solved.

The main problem is that Rust and Rakell are out right now. That makes this really tough to turn around right now.

The biggest plus side is, the Devils aren't dominate like they were projected. The Hurricans looked lost. The Flyers and Capitals are pretenders.

This will turn around!

 

[OnMyOwn]

You guys thought he was going to openly say I need to fire Sullivan and his coaches? He did GM speak, as was expected.

FSG hitched themselves to that guy before Dubas even got here with the stupid extension. I doubt he has much say until things get way worse standings wise.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I'm not saying I expected Dubas to say he was gonna fire his coach or anything. But I do wonder how many times throughout the past six years we've heard owners or a GM speak glowingly of Sully just to tell ourselves "No, actually, they wouldn't openly say Sully's on the hot seat. He probably is though! For sure!"

 

[Josey Wales]

AHHHHH The Virtue Signaling of the People who have Blocked me is just hilarious

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! You are the Prototypical 8 year old that doesn't want to hear what someone is telling them so they stick their fingers in their ears & Say NANANANANANANANANANANA i can't hear you

Something something pot-kettle-black

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Jokingly mention Ovechkin's on steroids? Real shit.

Be a miserable f*** who trolls non-stop and gets into it with literally everyone who you interact with? All good.

I find it odd that someone will go to the mat for a coach that's done f***-all for half a decade. But rips on the team's best player for his post game quotes.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I'm not saying I expected Dubas to say he was gonna fire his coach or anything. But I do wonder how many times throughout the past six years we've heard owners or a GM speak glowingly of Sully just to tell ourselves "No, actually, they wouldn't openly say Sully's on the hot seat. He probably is though! For sure!"

Happens very often to be honest, gotta be somewhat of a kiss of death. We lose this back to back here against the Yotes and Canadiens, I just don't see how he can survive it. If he does, we're in for a top 10 pick for sure

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

And just like I predicted, everyone kept winning while we weren't playing.

6 points out with 6 teams to jump. The season is f***ing over.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

And just like I predicted, everyone kept winning while we weren't playing.

6 points out with 6 teams to jump. The season is f***ing over.

Hopefully we win the lottery, Celebrini would be nice a nice consolation prize

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Any pick in the top-15 would be a welcome addition tbh, but Dubas has a real fun decision to make as to whether he's gonna keep this year's pick or let SJ have it with next year's likely to be even higher.

 

[Zbynek]

I can count the number of Pens games I've missed in the past 30 years or so on my two hands. Timezone differences and all.

My Do not give a f*** meter is currently lower than it was during the X gen. It's WAY lower in fact. It's also way lower than any point of the Bylsma era.

More than anything it's just sad man. Dubas the FSG puppet can kiss my ass.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I find it odd that someone will go to the mat for a coach that's done f***-all for half a decade. But rips on the team's best player for his post game quotes.

Dude just wants any attention he can get so he says the stupidest, most inflammatory shit imaginable and this place is 1000% dumb enough to take the bait every single time.

Sad, lonely, miserable boomer.

 

[Al Smith]

I know everyone is pretty down bad on this team and Sully right now and rightfully so. However, lets keep in perspective that this team is doing well in the areas that we were most concerned about going into the season.

The Penguins are 3rd in the league in goals against.

Once we start finding the net on the PP, we will start winning. The PP will be solved.

The main problem is that Rust and Rakell are out right now. That makes this really tough to turn around right now.

The biggest plus side is, the Devils aren't dominate like they were projected. The Hurricans looked lost. The Flyers and Capitals are pretenders.

This will turn around!

This blatant positivity is verboten on any Pens thread. Violators should be sentenced to watching Gladams video on continuous loop until they come to the dark side.

 

[pistolpete11]

I was promised an analytical GM

I think he's only analyzing his bank account

Analytically, this team is one of the best teams in the NHL except for the PP.

 

[66-30-33]

Hopefully we win the lottery, Celebrini would be nice a nice consolation prize

Who’s he compare to?

 

[pistolpete11]

And now he has those players and he's coached the team to even worse results than last year? Imagine that.

Sullivan's usage has clearly shown he wants the 3rd and 4th lines to play like hard checking defensive shutdown units and somehow also produce unheard of offensive numbers with that usage, it's just not based in any sort of logic at all. Then when he does have options that can help do that, he will always choose the offensively stunted bloke that is average at best on defense because he loves those types.

Rutherford and Hextall failed to make this Sullivan's team after the 2 cups, Dubas still can't do it. You want to blame Hextall? Fine, but then you end up having to blame every GM that has been here with Hextall.

This reminds me of how Burke went to every media outlet to praise Mike Sullivan, I felt that was f***ed up and demoralizing to see given how many issues there are with Sullivan and his coaching, but someone above (FSG) really loves this bloke and he's essentially untouchable because Dubas has now praised Sullivan 3 times to media outlets since he's been hired, sounding a lot like Brian Burke making his rounds to media outlets to keep pumping the fact that Sullivan is great and he's their guy, almost as if they know people want to say something but if they keep pushing that narrative, then no one will think otherwise.

JR got so frustrated with Sullivan's usage of players in wrong roles he panicked and moved Hagelin (Hagelin was someone Sullivan kept forcing with Malkin and it wasn't working as it should, but Hagelin was producing just fine on the 3rd line, but all Sullivan had up his sleeve was praying a version of HBK with Geno would spark something, it didn't, he ended up causing a rift with Malkin and Kessel instead), the team got Tanner Pearson, we were excited, then we saw how Sullivan deployed him and this board turned on Pearson. Mark Jankowski is essentially what Sullivan thinks of Eller, he used him as such, after 1.5 weeks it was clear Mark was not an NHL caliber player to everyone here and to everyone around the league, but 40 games later he finally used someone that kept showing more than Jankowski in each call up and shift, it took him until it was basically too late to figure that out.

His idea of goalie rotation, his ignorance of scouting players and what they're good at is non existent, need I mention he literally came to JR to make a case for Jack Johnson?

Mike Sullivan f***ing sucks, you lot apparently want to blame literally everyone for things Mike Sullivan has exacerbated into shit.

I'm as frustrated with Sullivan as everyone else, but to be fair, his theory has been working so far this year. They are one of the best teams in the NHL at 5-on-5 and the bottom 6 guys are contributing to the PK that's solid. This team is being let down by the PP, which Sullivan deserves some blame for as well, but it doesn't have anything to do with his 2 scoring lines and 2 defensive line structure.

I think there are 2 things that are wrong with his theory, though.

1. You need more depth scoring in the playoffs (playoffs, ) because teams will key in on Crosby and Malkin even more than they already do and then what? Eller's about the only one I could see coming up with a big goal.

2. Since they focused on getting defensive plugs to fill out the bottom 6, they don't have anyone to fill in the top 6 when there are injuries, as we are seeing now with Rust and Rakell out. But if they went out and got more Kapanens/Heinens/etc., then they aren't good enough defensively to handle the heavy d-zone usage and give up a f*** ton of goals like we saw last year. Kind of a Catch 22.

This is partly an organizational issue, too, though. Most teams would have a prospect or 2 to come up and fill in for the top 6, but the best the Pens got is Nylander/Puusy/etc. I think we are seeing the chickens coming home to roost.