Speculation: Penguins off day talk thread: Yes, Sully is still the coach
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This is from Taylor from morning optional skate: looks like Ned is starting as I wanted…don’t fail me now Ned!
• Light skate today. Participants are Jarry, Radim Zohorna, Ryan Shea, Chad Ruhwedel, Evgeni Malkin, Valtteri Puustinen, Drew O'Connor, P.O Joseph. Mike Chiasson is filling in as second goalie.
• No Alex Nedeljkovic at the skate is usually an indication that he's starting.
• Just a note, the Penguins only do full tribute videos for players who won cups here. So even though it's the first return for Teddy Blueger, Casey DeSmith and Mark Friedman, they didn't meet the criteria for a video. I'd imagine they get a quick welcome back message during a stoppage, they usually do that for guys who don't get a video.
• Hearing that the Penguins are sticking with the hot hand and going back to Michelle Crechiolo as the color commentator on radio tonight. Phil Bourque is still sick.
• Friedman is on the bench saying hi to guys and being loud.
• Light skate today. Participants are Jarry, Radim Zohorna, Ryan Shea, Chad Ruhwedel, Evgeni Malkin, Valtteri Puustinen, Drew O'Connor, P.O Joseph. Mike Chiasson is filling in as second goalie.
• No Alex Nedeljkovic at the skate is usually an indication that he's starting.
• Just a note, the Penguins only do full tribute videos for players who won cups here. So even though it's the first return for Teddy Blueger, Casey DeSmith and Mark Friedman, they didn't meet the criteria for a video. I'd imagine they get a quick welcome back message during a stoppage, they usually do that for guys who don't get a video.
• Hearing that the Penguins are sticking with the hot hand and going back to Michelle Crechiolo as the color commentator on radio tonight. Phil Bourque is still sick.
• Friedman is on the bench saying hi to guys and being loud.
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I'm actually secretly giddy about the duel starters situation emerging here. I just wish we had Neds on a two-year deal. He's pricing himself out of a backup role here but I wouldn't shake a stick at exploring a 2-3 year extension worth a little more. Just in case Blomqvist or Murashov explode and come over, you can easily trade either him or Jarry.
When was the last time we had three former players playing against us the following season? I know the long tributes are for Cup guys but being that there are THREE, I can't imagine it would have been that hard to put together a 1min highlight video of all three and saying "welcome back" but...whatever.
Yeah I just wrote in the Salary Cap thread that I think we should sign Ned to a two year extension and try to trade Jarry…the former being contingent on the latter…Blomqvist looks like our next 1B goalie
Zbynek
Jarry friggin sucks dude
105 PDO is as high as I ever seen...they are getting incredible goaltending and incredible shooting percentage...are they really taht skilled or they are just riding weird lucky streak
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I would want there to be a three-goalie tandem with Jarry/Neds being injured. Maybe that opens the door for a long-term look. Not unlike what happened with Murray in 2016.
I think a good topic for discussion is Ned's rebound year: Are we seeing him just playing out of the "funk" he was in; is this based on the team play in front of him; is he feeling less pressure because he's a backup...is it a combination of any and all the above? I never thought he was a "bad" goalie while in Detroit. I loved his game in Carolina and had a hard time believing there was just a sudden switch flipped where he forgot how to play hockey. I'm happy to see him back to playing well but a one-year rebound is sooooooo tough to judge. I think we've seen several times, guys get out of shit contracts, sign for cheap, play well, get a new deal...and then go back to being shit. That's why I wish it was a two-year deal. If he played this well at $1.5mil into next year, you might get more comfort in moving on from Jarry if someone else emerges. I would love another year at $2mil. Play well again, look for a 3-4 year deal but man alive do I hope Dubas keeps things conservative. Either a low hit or a short duration. We can't do 5x5s.
At the cost of who though?
I don't disagree but I think he replaces Puustinen...which I don't necessarily want.
Zbynek
Jarry friggin sucks dude
Love what we've seen from Puustinen this season but he sits so fast if Pens land a Corey Perry. Then Puusti slots in for any injuries.
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or Sully what do:
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I think no matter how you slice it that top-9 is really good.
haven't been following...does Perry have anything left...he probably would help on PP..
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I'd like to have Perry here but 100% NOT in the top 6. He doesn't have that level of play anymore. He was on the 4th line in Chicago.
I'm not even 100% sure he provides more than Harkins at this point. I think you add him for the "we are missing this skill set here and here, so we will sacrifice in these areas"
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Anyone that complains about Carter being old and slow should not want Perry.
Zbynek
Jarry friggin sucks dude
I know that's not the same people who asked for the Guentzel equivalent of a Neal for Horny trade, shutting down the idea of Corey Perry.
He's not coming in here to play a 4th line energy role, that's the point. He gets PP time and his butt in front of the net.
Yes because our league-wide bottom-5 Powerplay has so much of what Corey Perry brings.
He's not coming in here to play a 4th line energy role, that's the point. He gets PP time and his butt in front of the net.
Yes because our league-wide bottom-5 Powerplay has so much of what Corey Perry brings.
Zbynek
Jarry friggin sucks dude
Really? He got a lot of TOI this season for a 4th liner. But goes to show you how easily he could be used on the PP. 4G-5A in 16 GP on the friggin Blackhawks with 4th line utilization suggests he still has some juice in him.
We could make a "size matters" line with DOC-Eller-Perry.
Maybe top-6 is a little rich (Though I always wished Malkin could get him another Ryan Malone type winger), but still think he'd be better suited on 3W than just a replacement for Jansen Harkins.
I mean we're currently running Big Jeff on PP2, don't see how we could do much worse than that
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Corey Perry was 12 13 25 and a -28 for Tampa in 22-23 with 81 games played.....6 PP goals/ 6 PP assists..... I mean, if he was gonna sit on the bench and only touched the ice to screen goalies on the PP .........maybe..........maybe..........but that's not happening
Perhaps the Penguins could have a conversation about not giving up multiple shorthanded breakaways/odd-man rushes literally every stinking game. Maybe that would help?
Perhaps the Penguins could have a conversation about not giving up multiple shorthanded breakaways/odd-man rushes literally every stinking game. Maybe that would help?
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A little birdie told me Ryan Malone may be announcing tonight apparently.. Keep an eye out if my sources are good (E5)
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If Carter provided the snarl Perry did, I would hate him less.
He was on the third line for most of October and then regularly switched back and forth between the 3rd and 4th after that.
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Zbynek
Jarry friggin sucks dude
Perry also makes us tougher to play against, which will help down the stretch for scrappy Metro matchups. Having a guy like that regularly in our lineup (and not just a 7D who plays 9 mins a night) gives our team a different element. These are guys you bring on board when you want to make a run. Yes he is old but he otherwise checks a lot of boxes for this team. Cullen was like 40 and he was a great piece in our 2017 run.
Feels like somewhere in between to me but leaning to the former as in if they're both in equal form, I'd expect the team to split or near-split the starts going forward.
Obviously very rare for both goalies to be in equal form though and I'm not sure Jarry's lost his status to the point where he'd be sitting more than playing if he was in better form than Ned.
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I think they have committed to merely ridding the hot hand. Not the worst idea but Jarry is a guy that needs to play himself out of it which when you are competing for valuable points every night, makes it rough.
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