Speculation: Penguins off day talk thread: Dont look now, but we are good again!

Andy99

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Just watched the presser with him finally. It’s clear him and the coaching group no longer have the same vision. Based on his body language it appears sully is gone over the summer.

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Disagree unfortunately…wish you were right…but he’s taken opportunities to go out of his way to talk about Sullivan being here to groom the next wave…to me it’s clear he has marching orders from cheap FSG to keep Sullivan at least for the next two seasons, unless Sullivan wants out and there’s some mutual parting of the ways
 
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Disagree unfortunately…wish you were right…but he’s taken opportunities to go out of his way to talk about Sullivan being here to groom the next wave…to me it’s clear he has marching orders from cheap FSG to keep Sullivan at least for the next two seasons, unless Sullivan wants out and there’s some mutual parting of the ways

Idk I’m just basing it off the this recent presser. It seemed very telling there is a disconnect between him and the coaching staff. We’ll see, just my interpretation. Obv wouldn’t be shocked to see sully here till he’s 82.
 

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I didn’t think I’d watch another Pens game this season but I’m curious about how they come out against Boston…a poor effort with dumb mistakes and I’m done watching…I’ll just watch the standings and hope they keep free falling lol
 
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If Sullivan isn't fired after this year, then there's a better chance he is promoted to GM/HC than him ever getting fired. This season has to have been the final straw for everybody.

I didn’t think I’d watch another Pens game this season but I’m curious about how they come out against Boston…a poor effort with dumb mistakes and I’m done watching…I’ll just watch the standings and hope they keep free falling lol
A good experiment would be to see how good Bunting looks in today's game vs. how he looks in the last game. Ya know, after Sullivan fixes him.
 
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If Sullivan isn't fired after this year, then there's a better chance he is promoted to GM/HC than him ever getting fired. This season has to have been the final straw for everybody.

I hope Dubas, if he can’t fire Sullivan, approaches a couple GMs with coach openings, such as NJ, to see if they’d have an interest in Sullivan…maybe he and Sullivan could agree to part ways if he’s being strongly considered for other job openings…my only hope at this point lol unless Sid grows some balls and lets the FO office know that Sullivan needs to go
 

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I hope Dubas, if he can’t fire Sullivan, approaches a couple GMs with coach openings, such as NJ, to see if they’d have an interest in Sullivan…maybe he and Sullivan could agree to part ways if he’s being strongly considered for other job openings…my only hope at this point lol unless Sid grows some balls and lets the FO office know that Sullivan needs to go
I got my hopes up that was going to happen with Tomlin and was let down. And we have a recent example of a coach being traded in the NFL. Has this happened in the NHL? Can it happen in the NHL?
 
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There's no indication that Dubas thinks anything but highly of Sullivan.

I don't think he gets fired this off season. Maybe he gets fired mid season next year if Dubas retools again and the Pens still suck but even then they might just blame that on age of our core and Hextalls moves.
 

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I got my hopes up that was going to happen with Tomlin and was let down. And we have a recent example of a coach being traded in the NFL. Has this happened in the NHL? Can it happen in the NHL?

I wasn’t thinking trade…just an agreement to part ways and not honor the extension…I don’t think you can trade NHL coaches
 
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I got my hopes up that was going to happen with Tomlin and was let down. And we have a recent example of a coach being traded in the NFL. Has this happened in the NHL? Can it happen in the NHL?
Can someone explain to me why Steeler fans hate Tomlin? He seems to be a tremendous coach and your organization is run incredibly well.
 

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Can someone explain to me why Steeler fans hate Tomlin? He seems to be a tremendous coach and your organization is run incredibly well.
Same situation w Sullivan: he hasn’t done anything lately and the team doesn’t win big games. Also he has a huge hand in roster construction and the roster hasn’t been terrific in awhile. He’s stale…also not great at tactical adjustments, or they’re done too late in the game
 

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Can someone explain to me why Steeler fans hate Tomlin? He seems to be a tremendous coach and your organization is run incredibly well.
He's a stubborn cock wozzle who talks in platitudes and cliches more then Bylsma, still thinks this is 2007, would rather be buddies with his immature man children then hold them accountable for anything, Constantly gets cucked into allowing his players diva behavior to ruin what integrity this franchise had left to rot quicker then AB's CTE riddled brain.
 

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Can someone explain to me why Steeler fans hate Tomlin? He seems to be a tremendous coach and your organization is run incredibly well.
3 playoff wins (I would say 1 was more a melt down by the Bungles than a win) in the last 13 years, much of which was with a still prime aged Ben.

As a 'defensive' coach, his teams have given up 40+ points to the likes of Blake Bortles and Baker Mayfield and nearly 30 to Tim Tebow in the playoffs. That's on top of regularly giving up 30-40+ to legitimately good QBs.

Hires the worst coordinators so he has a fall guy when things inevitable go bad. (IMO, this changed this year with their hiring of Arthur Smith. I don't think Smith is a mastermind, but he's a legit NFL OC. The problem is it took national embarrassment over Canada where people were chanting "Fire Canada!" at sporting events not even related to the Steelers.



There's a ton of things, but those are the big 3 for me. There are differences between Tomlin, Sullivan, and Bylsma, but all share 1 common thing. Big early success that tricked the organization and media into thinking they can do no wrong followed by long stretches of underperforming mediocrity.
 

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FSG is insanely cheap. They have completely hamstrung the new Red Sox GM and even after 4 WS FSG ownership is now reviled in Boston for how cheap they’re being.
 
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So…
Full honestly, what are the chances of resigning Jake in the off-season and making the universe whole again?

A lot depends on how the squad performs down the stretch…

If they do well, chances are higher.

What irks me is Sully couldn’t sort out the distraction and have the team show up against the Caps. At least lose 4-3 in OT.

I’m hoping for at least effort tonight. Who know, mental weakness is a Penguins staple.

or..
Maybe the start of Sully actually having lost the team. Motivation is one of the biggest things a coach brings to the table.

So much rambling on my part…lol.

Ps….
I expect Bunting to play with Crosby, not Malkin. Shiny new toy and all.
 

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