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Empoleon8771

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I think it's evident that this team sucks and desperately needs to tear down the roster. The amount of trade chips the Penguins have is a bit limited, but I think the main ones are:

-Pettersson: 1 year at $4 million
-O'Connor: 1 year at $925k
-Eller: 1 year at $2.45 million
-Rust: 4 years at $5.125 million, Penguins likely need to take a bad deal back
-Rakell: 4 years at $5 million, Penguins likely need to take a bad deal back
-Nedjelkovic: 2 years at $2.5 million

Karlsson and Bunting are also potential trade chips, but both need to start playing better for either to be worthwhile in a discussion (plus Karlsson would require significant retention and the Penguins only have 1 retention slot left this year). I think everyone else on the team is either untradeable, won't be traded or has no value.

A couple of ideas I have:

-Pettersson to Vancouver for Elias Pettersson (defenseman) and a 2nd
-Rust to Detroit for Copp and additional futures
 
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Oilers would like to be in on Petterson and possibly replace skinner with nedelkovich.
 
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Pettersson at 50% retained should get a 1st rounder from a contending team and a B prospect

Ellers should get a 2nd if he keeps up this level of play otherwise a 3rd

O'Conner probably gets a 3rd or a 4th

The other guys (Rakell, Karlsson, Bunting, Rust) have a lot of term so makes it hard to trade them/consider what theit value is
 
Canucks will outbid and overpay more than Oilers and Blue Jackets for Pettersson
 
Canucks will outbid and overpay more than Oilers and Blue Jackets for Pettersson
How would the cap work or we waiting for Canucks to accrue cap space.

Petts at 4 million I think gets a 1st automatically.

With 1 retention spot that's the tough spot and definitely makes him worth more.
 
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How would the cap work or we waiting for Canucks to accrue cap space.

Petts at 4 million I think gets a 1st automatically.

With 1 retention spot that's the tough spot and definitely makes him worth more.
Yeah it would have to be a deadline deal , you think Penguins management would wait till deadline to move him?
 
Rakell seems like a decent player still. 8 pts in 11 G this year. 60 points a couple years ago. Last year was a down year but largely seems like a player worthy of $5M. Is he horrible defensively or what?
 
Rakell seems like a decent player still. 8 pts in 11 G this year. 60 points a couple years ago. Last year was a down year but largely seems like a player worthy of $5M. Is he horrible defensively or what?
No. Both he and Rust are good top6 wings. They are in their 30s so those contracts may not age well.
 
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Rakell seems like a decent player still. 8 pts in 11 G this year. 60 points a couple years ago. Last year was a down year but largely seems like a player worthy of $5M. Is he horrible defensively or what?

Nah his only issue is the term left on his deal. Similar issue to what Rust has, and why I imagine they would have to take a contract back.

If he only had 2 years left, they'd be able to trade either guy super easily for value. But 4 years left is challenging.
 
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Nah his only issue is the term left on his deal. Similar issue to what Rust has, and why I imagine they would have to take a contract back.

If he only had 2 years left, they'd be able to trade either guy super easily for value. But 4 years left is challenging.
What? I doubt contending teams GM’s see the Rust contract as a problem. Cap is going up, 4 years at 32 Y.O is not the end of the world.

Unless you’re saying something else, like Rust has regressed that much?
 
EK would be a great fit for LA. The cap would be difficult to figure out without retention.
 
How would the cap work or we waiting for Canucks to accrue cap space.

Petts at 4 million I think gets a 1st automatically.

With 1 retention spot that's the tough spot and definitely makes him worth more.
Depending on when a deal were to be made, I could possibly see Forbort’s $1.5M expiring salary going the other way. Right now with Joshua and Demko are out the Canucks are carrying about $2M in extra salary to cover for those two without utilizing LTIR.
 
I like sully the man but not the coach. He has to go. But I have said Dubas is going to give the group this year to make the playoffs and see what happens. I have Rust with no trade restrictions to be moved. Karlsson as well with some retention. could be more but for now those 2 come to mind.
 

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