Value of: Penguins blow-up

[Empoleon8771]

I think it's evident that this team sucks and desperately needs to tear down the roster. The amount of trade chips the Penguins have is a bit limited, but I think the main ones are:

-Pettersson: 1 year at $4 million
-O'Connor: 1 year at $925k
-Eller: 1 year at $2.45 million
-Rust: 4 years at $5.125 million, Penguins likely need to take a bad deal back
-Rakell: 4 years at $5 million, Penguins likely need to take a bad deal back
-Nedjelkovic: 2 years at $2.5 million

Karlsson and Bunting are also potential trade chips, but both need to start playing better for either to be worthwhile in a discussion (plus Karlsson would require significant retention and the Penguins only have 1 retention slot left this year). I think everyone else on the team is either untradeable, won't be traded or has no value.

A couple of ideas I have:

-Pettersson to Vancouver for Elias Pettersson (defenseman) and a 2nd
-Rust to Detroit for Copp and additional futures

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[Mr Kot]

Oilers would like to be in on Petterson and possibly replace skinner with nedelkovich.

 

[Viqsi]

I still want Pettersson in union blue, but at this point you'll probably get more competitive prices from folks seeking playoff rentals and we're not there yet.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Petterson should easily garner a 1st + B prospect at the deadline. He'd be one of the top D available on the market

 

[hamzarocks]

Pettersson at 50% retained should get a 1st rounder from a contending team and a B prospect

Ellers should get a 2nd if he keeps up this level of play otherwise a 3rd

O'Conner probably gets a 3rd or a 4th

The other guys (Rakell, Karlsson, Bunting, Rust) have a lot of term so makes it hard to trade them/consider what theit value is

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Oilers would like to be in on Petterson and possibly replace skinner with nedelkovich.

2026 1st +

I think we'd be looking at that.

Would Kulak be coming back for Petts? How would the cap work?

 

[Coffee]

Canucks will outbid and overpay more than Oilers and Blue Jackets for Pettersson

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Canucks will outbid and overpay more than Oilers and Blue Jackets for Pettersson

How would the cap work or we waiting for Canucks to accrue cap space.

Petts at 4 million I think gets a 1st automatically.

With 1 retention spot that's the tough spot and definitely makes him worth more.

 

[blankall]

The Canucks swapping Pettersson for Pettersson definitely saves on costs, as you can reuse the jerseys and equipment. The Canucks should be all over that deal.

 

[Coffee]

How would the cap work or we waiting for Canucks to accrue cap space.

Petts at 4 million I think gets a 1st automatically.

With 1 retention spot that's the tough spot and definitely makes him worth more.

Yeah it would have to be a deadline deal , you think Penguins management would wait till deadline to move him?

 

[MNRube]

Rakell seems like a decent player still. 8 pts in 11 G this year. 60 points a couple years ago. Last year was a down year but largely seems like a player worthy of $5M. Is he horrible defensively or what?

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

Rakell seems like a decent player still. 8 pts in 11 G this year. 60 points a couple years ago. Last year was a down year but largely seems like a player worthy of $5M. Is he horrible defensively or what?

No. Both he and Rust are good top6 wings. They are in their 30s so those contracts may not age well.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Yeah it would have to be a deadline deal , you think Penguins management would wait till deadline to move him?

I can see the New year be the beginning of selling players.

I wanted to Keep Petts but we look awful as a whole on the team.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Rakell seems like a decent player still. 8 pts in 11 G this year. 60 points a couple years ago. Last year was a down year but largely seems like a player worthy of $5M. Is he horrible defensively or what?

Nah his only issue is the term left on his deal. Similar issue to what Rust has, and why I imagine they would have to take a contract back.

If he only had 2 years left, they'd be able to trade either guy super easily for value. But 4 years left is challenging.

 

[Stickpucker]

The Canes are looking for a 2c. You got any of those?

 

[Coffee]

Nah his only issue is the term left on his deal. Similar issue to what Rust has, and why I imagine they would have to take a contract back.

If he only had 2 years left, they'd be able to trade either guy super easily for value. But 4 years left is challenging.

What? I doubt contending teams GM’s see the Rust contract as a problem. Cap is going up, 4 years at 32 Y.O is not the end of the world.

Unless you’re saying something else, like Rust has regressed that much?

 

[FSL KINGS]

EK would be a great fit for LA. The cap would be difficult to figure out without retention.

 

[Coffee]

The Canes are looking for a 2c. You got any of those?

Not one that will be traded

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

I could see O’Connor returning 2nd rounder.

 

[57special]

That isn't blowing it up. It's getting rid of bit players. Blowing it up is moving Crosby, Malkin, Karlsson, and Letang.

 

[Bond]

Huberdeau for Rust and Rakell. Keep on trying please lol

 

[Mr Kot]

2026 1st +

I think we'd be looking at that.

Would Kulak be coming back for Petts? How would the cap work?

Yeah that would be the only way a trad would work, cap HAS to go back

 

[Stickpucker]

This isn't a blow up.

This is taking out the recycle bin.

 

[Peter Griffin]

How would the cap work or we waiting for Canucks to accrue cap space.

Petts at 4 million I think gets a 1st automatically.

With 1 retention spot that's the tough spot and definitely makes him worth more.

Depending on when a deal were to be made, I could possibly see Forbort’s $1.5M expiring salary going the other way. Right now with Joshua and Demko are out the Canucks are carrying about $2M in extra salary to cover for those two without utilizing LTIR.

 

[chethejet]

I like sully the man but not the coach. He has to go. But I have said Dubas is going to give the group this year to make the playoffs and see what happens. I have Rust with no trade restrictions to be moved. Karlsson as well with some retention. could be more but for now those 2 come to mind.