PC Building Guide and Discussion #14
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TechPowerUp's review has 4K tests at the highest settings with a 4090 and the improvement is very small over the 7800X3D and even your 5900X, likely because the scenarios are now GPU limited.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/20.html
It seems like it's not worth upgrading to right now if you play at the highest settings for the best visual quality, but may be worth it if you play at more modest settings (High, DLSS, RT off, etc.) for higher framerates.
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PeteWorrell
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The 9800X3D is selling out while the rest of the generation is gathering dust on shelves.
Maybe they will finally understand that actual performance uplifts=sales.
Maybe they will finally understand that actual performance uplifts=sales.
It'll probably be in and out of stock for the next month or two. Good for me, as I'm getting parts late Jan/early Feb.
I read that the 7800X3D went out of stock quickly when it was released, too, and took a few weeks to become available again, but then stayed in stock. Maybe it'll be the same with the 9800X3D. Like SolidSnakeUS, I don't mind as long as it's in stock in late Jan/early Feb. Of course, there are probably lots of other people waiting until then to upgrade, so maybe it'll actually be hard to get then, too. I hope not.
Mikeaveli
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Thanks for that, I'll do more research but doesn't seem like it's worth buying a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM, at least for gaming.
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Page 2 | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D review: obliterating the competition
The Digital Foundry CPU review of the Intel AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, with the test rig, content creation benchmarks and much more.
www.eurogamer.net
The performance uplift in CPU limited games is pretty impressive. When running Starfield at ultra settings, 4k DLSS performance, the 9800X3D has 1% lows equal to the average frame rate of the 5900X lol.
I'm not in a rush to upgrade so I'll probably wait until the 9900X3D and 5000 series GPUs are announced before I decide
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Plot twist : i have a 4090 and just realized I’ve had my monitors plugged into the mother board instead of the graphics card for well over a year
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Went to purchase a SSD to put games on because the loading time is super fast. Ended up buying a SATA drive, but due to case issues and improper cable plugin I figured I would just let someone else do it.
Find out about M.2 drives which are pretty interesting and run faster. Might look into that for my next SSD drive (I could return the one I purchased saturday and get M.2 instead but I don't feel like it and the dang things are only 50 dollars)
Find out about M.2 drives which are pretty interesting and run faster. Might look into that for my next SSD drive (I could return the one I purchased saturday and get M.2 instead but I don't feel like it and the dang things are only 50 dollars)
NVMe/m.2 drives are nice for space and cable management and much faster for reading and writing files, but don't make much difference to game loading times. You might save one second, but that's about it. Eventually, games might take advantage of technology like DirectStorage and perform better on such drives, but we're still waiting on that. For now, SATA drives are good enough for games. That's why even recommended ultra specs for games simply list "SSD" for storage and don't specify the type (SATA or NVMe).
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It's nice to see Intel be competitive. I'm not sure that it'll still be the best value GPU a month from now, though, as I expect the RX 8600 9070 non-XT to be at least a little bit better, especially in ray tracing, although it could be $50 more expensive, too.
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Mikeaveli
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We have just over 2 weeks until Nvidia announces the 5000 series at CES and im pretty excited for it. If the 5090 comes anywhere close to the leaked specs it should be a mind blowing piece of hardware.
It's hard for me to get excited for hardware that'll be either outrageously expensive or short on VRAM.
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I can justify the high price because I use my PC for several different hobbies as well as building skills for work. I know not everyone can say the same.
High end GPUs also tend to hold their value really well. I'm about to sell my 4090 Founders Edition for more than I paid for it 1.5 years ago so even if the 5090 is more expensive it won't be more than a few hundred dollars out of pocket.
High end GPUs also tend to hold their value really well. I'm about to sell my 4090 Founders Edition for more than I paid for it 1.5 years ago so even if the 5090 is more expensive it won't be more than a few hundred dollars out of pocket.
Edit: They announced the 9950X3D, new AI-powered mobile CPUs and a partnership with Dell. There was nothing about RDNA 4 GPUs or FSR 4 upscaling. I guess that those announcements will come in a different presentation, but the whole world was expecting them in this keynote, so AMD has already turned some of the hype into disappointment and fumbled another product launch.
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AMD might of just had one of the largest GPU blunders in recent memory. Holy shit. They pulled the announcement of the 9070 and 9070 XT... yet youtubers were allowed to show off that announcement for them. AMD let Youtubers undercut them in the dumbest way possible. What a complete shitshow on the GPU side. Jesus...
This doesn't help either. I get Nvidia does that exact same thing, but AMD has been trying to frame themselves as the "good guy" vs Intel and Nvidia for years now. To then just pull a move straight out of Nvidia's playbook.
I think that Videocardz may've misinterpreted the slide. It doesn't say that FSR 4 is available only for the 9070 series. It says that the "FSR 4 upgrade feature" is and works when games have only FSR 3.1 built in. It sounds like a feature to allow the 9070 series to use some features of FSR 4 (likely AI acceleration) even when games don't support greater than FSR 3.1. In other words, it may be a neat feature (albeit practically useless, as there are almost no FSR 3.1 games), but now the misinterpretation is going to spread even more because AMD missed the chance to clear it up hours ago.
Edit: It seems like this theory is incorrect and Videocardz interpreted it mostly correctly.
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Personally, I think the fact that they completely skipped talking about the 9070 and let the Youtubers undercut them is pretty f***ing disastrous. It's ugly.
It's a pretty big fumble, but I don't think that it's as bad as the launch and unlaunch of the 4080 12GB. Lisa Su was nowhere to be seen here, and she usually introduces graphics products, so they may be planning to hold a second event after Nvidia launches the 50 series. It's still disappointing, though.
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They said it would be talked about later in Q1... why talk about it later? What is later? You going to talk about this in March? Because that's a BAD idea.
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