PC Building Guide and Discussion #14

[Mikeaveli]

Yeah looks like it should be a nice leap in performance from my 5900x. I'll wait for some 4K benchmarks to come out though, I'd like to see what performance i can actually expect in game instead of these arbitrary CPU limited scenarios.

 

[Osprey]

Yeah looks like it should be a nice leap in performance from my 5900x. I'll wait for some 4K benchmarks to come out though, I'd like to see what performance i can actually expect in game instead of these arbitrary CPU limited scenarios.

TechPowerUp's review has 4K tests at the highest settings with a 4090 and the improvement is very small over the 7800X3D and even your 5900X, likely because the scenarios are now GPU limited.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/20.html

It seems like it's not worth upgrading to right now if you play at the highest settings for the best visual quality, but may be worth it if you play at more modest settings (High, DLSS, RT off, etc.) for higher framerates.

 

[PeteWorrell]

The 9800X3D is selling out while the rest of the generation is gathering dust on shelves.

Maybe they will finally understand that actual performance uplifts=sales.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

The 9800X3D is selling out while the rest of the generation is gathering dust on shelves.

Maybe they will finally understand that actual performance uplifts=sales.

It'll probably be in and out of stock for the next month or two. Good for me, as I'm getting parts late Jan/early Feb.

 

[Osprey]

I read that the 7800X3D went out of stock quickly when it was released, too, and took a few weeks to become available again, but then stayed in stock. Maybe it'll be the same with the 9800X3D. Like SolidSnakeUS, I don't mind as long as it's in stock in late Jan/early Feb. Of course, there are probably lots of other people waiting until then to upgrade, so maybe it'll actually be hard to get then, too. I hope not.

 

[Mikeaveli]

TechPowerUp's review has 4K tests at the highest settings with a 4090 and the improvement is very small over the 7800X3D and even your 5900X.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/20.html

It seems like it's not worth upgrading to if you play at the highest resolution and settings for the best visual quality, but may be worth it if you play on more modest settings (lower resolution or with DLSS, on High settings, maybe RT off) to achieve higher framerates.

Thanks for that, I'll do more research but doesn't seem like it's worth buying a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM, at least for gaming.

 

[Mikeaveli]

Page 2 | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D review: obliterating the competition

The Digital Foundry CPU review of the Intel AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, with the test rig, content creation benchmarks and much more.

www.eurogamer.net

The performance uplift in CPU limited games is pretty impressive. When running Starfield at ultra settings, 4k DLSS performance, the 9800X3D has 1% lows equal to the average frame rate of the 5900X lol.

I'm not in a rush to upgrade so I'll probably wait until the 9900X3D and 5000 series GPUs are announced before I decide

 

[Three On Zero]

Plot twist : i have a 4090 and just realized I’ve had my monitors plugged into the mother board instead of the graphics card for well over a year

 

[John Price]

Went to purchase a SSD to put games on because the loading time is super fast. Ended up buying a SATA drive, but due to case issues and improper cable plugin I figured I would just let someone else do it.

Find out about M.2 drives which are pretty interesting and run faster. Might look into that for my next SSD drive (I could return the one I purchased saturday and get M.2 instead but I don't feel like it and the dang things are only 50 dollars)

 

[Osprey]

NVMe/m.2 drives are nice for space and cable management and much faster for reading and writing files, but don't make much difference to game loading times. You might save one second, but that's about it. Eventually, games might take advantage of technology like DirectStorage and perform better on such drives, but we're still waiting on that. For now, SATA drives are good enough for games. That's why even recommended ultra specs for games simply list "SSD" for storage and don't specify the type (SATA or NVMe).

 

[PeteWorrell]

Intel redemption?

 

[Osprey]

It's nice to see Intel be competitive. I'm not sure that it'll still be the best value GPU a month from now, though, as I expect the RX 8600 to be at least a little bit better, especially in ray tracing, although it could be $50 more expensive, too.

 

[Mikeaveli]

https://videocardz.com/newz/inno3d-teases-neural-rendering-and-advanced-dlss-for-geforce-rtx-50-gpus-at-ces-2025

We have just over 2 weeks until Nvidia announces the 5000 series at CES and im pretty excited for it. If the 5090 comes anywhere close to the leaked specs it should be a mind blowing piece of hardware.

 

[Osprey]

It's hard for me to get excited for hardware that'll be either outrageously expensive or reasonably priced with not enough VRAM.

 

[PeteWorrell]

Powerful cards with a lack of VRAM is simply criminal. There is no point of pushing a technology like ray tracing if the card can't keep up because of a lack of memory.