Player Discussion Pavel Mintyukov

[Sean Garrity]

Can we get Ahlers to pronounce his name correctly

Let's get this thread back on topic.

So it's Minch-you-cough...right?

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Mintyukov does not have that 'ch' sound in it. It's a soft 't' sound.

 

[Sean Garrity]

Mintyukov does not have that 'ch' sound in it. It's a soft 't' sound.

So like Minthy-you-cough?

I'm not trying to be an ahole btw, I'd love to know how to pronounce his name properly.

 

[robbieboy3686]

So like Minthy-you-cough?

I'm not trying to be an ahole btw, I'd love to know how to pronounce his name properly.

I always just call him minty since I don’t know either lol

 

[ADHB]

The problem with Ahlers' pronunciation is he's missing the T. He says Min-Yu-Kov.

And yes, it's not supposed to have a "ch" sound but I'm guessing it naturally comes out that way sometimes, sort of like turning "don't you" into "don'tcha."

As to Ahlers in general, yeah like people said, he just needs to pay more attention. He's often more interested in telling a story or shooting the shit with Hayward than calling the action. Some PBP guys are like that I guess, but I'd rather he be a little more on it than in the background while we watch the game without a PBP.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

So like Minthy-you-cough?

I'm not trying to be an ahole btw, I'd love to know how to pronounce his name properly.

I'd say just pronounce it like it looks except for the ending (which should sound like 'f' due to the way that letter behaves at the end of Russian words). The 'softness' of Russian consonants is kind of a hard thing to hear because it isn't significant in English that I'm aware of.

 

[Sean Garrity]

I'd say just pronounce it like it looks except for the ending (which should sound like 'f' due to the way that letter behaves at the end of Russian words). The 'softness' of Russian consonants is kind of a hard thing to hear because it isn't significant in English that I'm aware of.

I appreciate it, thank you!

 

[Mr Rogers]

It has been so long since the Ducks had a Russian of his skill level on the team. Other teams were finding guys throughout the Murray "no-Russians" period and it was frustrating. I find it unlikely that he would've chosen him. I also think that's why SJ traded down right after we took him. Would not surprise me one bit if he ends up being one of the very best players from that draft, if not the best..

 

[mightyquack]

Alright guys, getting pretty sick of Stephens etc talk taking over multiple threads on the boards.

If you want to talk about Stephens - create a thread for it. Any posts about it outside of a designated thread will be deleted and people may get infracted if they consistently derail threads with it.

 

[Deuce22]

Alright guys, getting pretty sick of Stephens etc talk taking over multiple threads on the boards.

If you want to talk about Stephens - create a thread for it. Any posts about it outside of a designated thread will be deleted and people may get infracted if they consistently derail threads with it.

Not to mention-it's boring.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

It has been so long since the Ducks had a Russian of his skill level on the team. Other teams were finding guys throughout the Murray "no-Russians" period and it was frustrating. I find it unlikely that he would've chosen him. I also think that's why SJ traded down right after we took him. Would not surprise me one bit if he ends up being one of the very best players from that draft, if not the best..

Three points to counter this Murray avoiding Russians.

1. Mintyukov was already on NA ice in his D-1 season. He avoids the whole KHL contractual stuff right off the bat. Look at the G Ivan Fedotov situation with the Flyers.

2. The Russian stance changed in recent years. In 2020, Murray drafted Galimov in the fifth round. In 2021, Murray traded for Volkov.

3. Murray loves D-men.

 

[GermanRocket7]

Mint as in "mint condition"
Yukov similar to "Yukon".

What's so difficult about foreign names for Americans? I'm afraid I'll never be able to wrap my head around this phenomenon?

Sure, if you're talking about Polish or Hungarian names with lots of Cz, Az, SZ etc., it's difficult to know the correct pronunciation; however, the regularity in which foreign names are butchered by Americans (even simple ones like Seider), is striking.

 

[Gliff]

Mint as in "mint condition"
Yukov similar to "Yukon".

What's so difficult about foreign names for Americans? I'm afraid I'll never be able to wrap my head around this phenomenon?

Sure, if you're talking about Polish or Hungarian names with lots of Cz, Az, SZ etc., it's difficult to know the correct pronunciation; however, the regularity in which foreign names are butchered by Americans (even simple ones like Seider), is striking.

I get what you are saying, but he 100% pronounces his name with a "ch".



Minch-yukov

 

[FlyingV09]

I get what you are saying, but he 100% pronounces his name with a "ch".



Minch-yukov

Minchcough is what it sounded like to me. 2 syllables

 

[Gliff]

Minchcough is what it sounded like to me. 2 syllables

I think that was the Yu-kov just blending into one syllable, but there 100% is a “ch” in there.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

From what I could gather on the Internet, the t and the 'chu are merged into the second syllable. "MINH-t'chu-kov"

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think that was the Yu-kov just blending into one syllable, but there 100% is a “ch” in there.

I was attempting to learn Japanese online until the site demanded I sign up. You learn words separately and you enunciate it distinctly. Then in some phrases, they blend into one-syllable and you're wondering, "That's different from I learned." But when you hit the slower pronunciation version of the phrase, you can hear it the way you learned it.

The way I said it aloud, before this discussion, was "min-chu-kov" b/c the "tyu" sounded like chu when you say it at a normal talking speed for us. The slower version of me saying it was "min-tee-you-kov". That was me guessing how it sounded.

With the Minty's video intro, the "u" is soft/silent. In Japanese, desu is pronounced "des"; not "des-sue". Instead of "chuuu" it's just a quick "che" sound. Minty pronounces his name "minnch-kov".

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Mint as in "mint condition"
Yukov similar to "Yukon".

What's so difficult about foreign names for Americans? I'm afraid I'll never be able to wrap my head around this phenomenon?

Sure, if you're talking about Polish or Hungarian names with lots of Cz, Az, SZ etc., it's difficult to know the correct pronunciation; however, the regularity in which foreign names are butchered by Americans (even simple ones like Seider), is striking.

You might listen to yourself pronouncing American names sometime.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Is it possible that his name is spelled (and thus potentially pronounced) differently in Cyrillic?

 

[Ducks]

It sounded like "Minchyukofv" to me when he pronounces it. The only thing that surprised me was how soft the n was, doesn't seem too hard to pronounce honestly.

 

[GermanRocket7]

You might listen to yourself pronouncing American names sometime.

Yeah, thanks, I am an English teacher and fluent in five languages with basic knowledge in four more. But thank you for your very helpful insight. But it's nice to see that you know how I pronounce names given that you've never heard a single word of mine.

 

[Dryish]

Is it possible that his name is spelled (and thus potentially pronounced) differently in Cyrillic?

Not really. His name in Cyrillic is павел минтюков, which is translitterated as 'Pavel Mintyukov'.

From a linguistic perspective this whole name discussion is very easy. Take it from your friendly neighbourhood linguist (and someone who's studied Russian for ~3 years back in the day). It's pronounced Mint-yu-kov, you just aspirate the 't' and soften the 'v' to what is close to an f sound.

What might cause some confusion is that often players from Europe, Russians especially, try to "Americanize" the pronunciations of their names to fit the US announcers mouths better. I don't know if the tch sound idea comes from that or whether it's just people misinterpreting his aspiration, but that's one possibility.

 

[2faded]

Forget about the name, what's the meme that someone is going to post every time he scores a goal?

Mentos? some kind of minty fresh gum commercial?

 

[Gliff]

Forget about the name, what's the meme that someone is going to post every time he scores a goal?

Mentos? some kind of minty fresh gum commercial?

 

[Mr Rogers]

It has been WAY too long since the last game lol