Player Discussion Patrik Laine

[The Last Red]

Wow!! Didn't you get an MRI for that?

The MRI has to be of the correct area/spot or it’s worthless. It was the second MRI, at the hospital, when I couldn’t walk anymore, that caught it.

 

[VT]

If he comes back earlier, it would be under 2 months, which would mean November... mid-December would be right in the middle of the 2-3 months.

I don't think your staff will be risk. That's why I wrote mid-December.

 

[VT]

lolz, reminds me of my crazy hypochondriac aunt. always knows better than her doctors

My mom was a doctor. You'd be amazed how some hypochondriacs know disease. By the way, hypochondriacs find different diseases, injuries, Laine the opposite.

 

[themilosh]

I don’t think the club or Laine was seeking opinions from GPs…not that I disagree that doctors in general (and all human beings) are more incompetent than ever before

True..

lolz, reminds me of my crazy hypochondriac aunt. always knows better than her doctors

Once you get pegged as a hypochondriac it's over, all just for getting my pap smeared.. pft

I highly doubt he was seeking a second opinion from a GP

Ikik.. it was a rant..

 

[Habby4Life]

lolz, reminds me of my crazy hypochondriac aunt. always knows better than her doctors

Doing my google medical research.

Honey, it says for meningitis, drink equal parts lemon juice & Tabasco sauce while standing on your left leg. I’ll double check that with Joe Rogan.

 

[Habby4Life]

I hope Laine made right decision

We will know in three months.

I remember the Price never ending injury, hopefully this doesn’t become that.

I agree with one of the posters who mentioned the wide range of medical opinions they got, surgery, and no surgery is a little strange. Seems to be both ends of the spectrum.

Hoping all goes to plan!!

 

[morhilane]

I agree with one of the posters who mentioned the wide range of medical opinions they got, surgery, and no surgery is a little strange. Seems to be both ends of the spectrum.

That stuff happens often with doctors, you usually get a different diagnostic for every doctors you consult.

In this case, as another poster mentioned, studies have shown that a lots of knee injuries do not actually require surgery. Natural healing + rehab works just as well. Some doctors might not care about those studies, while others will.

 

[badfish]

That stuff happens often with doctors, you usually get a different diagnostic for every doctors you consult.

In this case, as another poster mentioned, studies have shown that a lots of knee injuries do not actually require surgery. Natural healing + rehab works just as well. Some doctors might not care about those studies, while others will.

Yes, my professional background is technical and financial in nature, and in those types of jobs you tend to converge on an answer through mathematics - i.e. finding a maximum, optimum, minimalizing something, etc. I used to wonder why professions like doctors couldn't converge on an answer but as I've grown older and befriended people in these professions I've learned you're dealing with a much higher level of uncertainty in most cases, which means it can be quite methodical or challenging to converge on a single problem.

FWIW a book that really opened my eyes to this was Outlive by Dr. Peter Attia.

 

[calder candidate]

I wish he didn’t just consider the information he wanted to hear, or making a decision only base on wanting to play this season. That being said he will always be able to get the surgery later if the rehab doesn’t feel right, there another event or the team is going nowhere early.

 

[Ozmodiar]

FWIW a book that really opened my eyes to this was Outlive by Dr. Peter Attia.

these longevity guys always have “quit alcohol” at the top of their list and my reaction is always: “I’m out!”.

 

[salbutera]

these longevity guys always have “quit alcohol” at the top of their list and my reaction is always: “I’m out!”.

Just stick to Vodka straight… problem solved

 

[MonkeyBusiness]

Yes, my professional background is technical and financial in nature, and in those types of jobs you tend to converge on an answer through mathematics - i.e. finding a maximum, optimum, minimalizing something, etc. I used to wonder why professions like doctors couldn't converge on an answer but as I've grown older and befriended people in these professions I've learned you're dealing with a much higher level of uncertainty in most cases, which means it can be quite methodical or challenging to converge on a single problem.

FWIW a book that really opened my eyes to this was Outlive by Dr. Peter Attia.

Medicine is much more dynamic than simply finding the maxima and minima of functions. There are many variables at play in biological systems, which is why more often than not single-variable calculus is not effective.

I’m assuming Peter Attia wrote about chaos theory and its applications in medicine in that book?

 

[HomaridII]

On the Habs Instagram account there is a video of Laine rating every single one of Slafkovsky's sunglasses lmao its hillarious.

 

[TesseractPrice]

He should be coming back around the game against the Ducks on December 9. Not that I've got tickets for this one or anything...

 

[morhilane]

On the Habs Instagram account there is a video of Laine rating every single one of Slafkovsky's sunglasses lmao its hillarious.

The uglier they are the higher the rating!

 

[Kennerback]

On the Habs Instagram account there is a video of Laine rating every single one of Slafkovsky's sunglasses lmao its hillarious.

Even Kovalev now seems worried that Slaf has a sharper style than him.

 

[badfish]

Medicine is much more dynamic than simply finding the maxima and minima of functions. There are many variables at play in biological systems, which is why more often than not single-variable calculus is not effective.

I’m assuming Peter Attia wrote about chaos theory and its applications in medicine in that book?

I don't recall reading anything about chaos theory in the book, but he shares some case studies of medical diagnosis and treatment processes, especially for different diseases like cancer and Alzheimer's/dementia and it opened my eyes on how hard it can be to diagnose/complications with developing a treatment plan.

 

[Koivu11]

 

[the valiant effort]

Doing my google medical research.View attachment 912249

I got my doctorate in oncology in just one Sunday afternoon of beer shits

 

[dauv]

Doing my google medical research.

Honey, it says for meningitis, drink equal parts lemon juice & Tabasco sauce while standing on left leg only. I’ll double check that with Joe Rogan.
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I was sure it was the right leg. I've been doing wrong all these years, no wonder it never worked

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Medicine is much more dynamic than simply finding the maxima and minima of functions. There are many variables at play in biological systems, which is why more often than not single-variable calculus is not effective.

I’m assuming Peter Attia wrote about chaos theory and its applications in medicine in that book?

Doctors are like mechanics except with white collar protections. And sometimes they pick diagnosis only for their own gain at the expense of the patient, just like a shady mechanic.

Some of their work is difficult. Some is because they pick the diagnosis that conveniences them or their organization the most at the expense of the patient.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Doctors are like mechanics except with white collar protections. And sometimes they pick diagnosis only for their own gain at the expense of the patient, just like a shady mechanic.

Some of their work is difficult. Some is because they pick the diagnosis that conveniences them or their organization the most at the expense of the patient.

All vocations include individuals on a continuum ranging from poor to exceptional competencies/practices.

 

[Deebs]

Came to check in on Laine and found a bunch of embarrassing medical hot takes

 

[themilosh]

Came to check in on Laine and found a bunch of embarrassing medical hot takes

while true.. thing is in Canada there is no such thing as a "second" opinion... that is why individuals must be more hypervigilant about their health.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Once you get pegged as a hypochondriac it's over, all just for getting my pap smeared.. pft

I was out at the mention of getting pegged....I am not a hypochondriac but that just really isn't up my alley