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Player Discussion Patrik Laine: ruining the tank

Seems more and more like the Columbus game broke Laine. 0+1 in 4 games with just 4 shots on goal since going back to Columbus and now sitting out for the 4th straight time. That's 8 straight games of basically nothing from Laine. Hate to say it but this might be a situation were both Laine and @thebus88 were right. Laine was right about Columbus and the terrible mindset that the team had when it comes to winning and loosing, while bus might be right that Laine is just getting by because he has one of the best shots of all time and pretty much nothing else...
 
drama on PL
I would hate to be a player somedays

I hope he comes back and if he does well
please don't cheer for him if he is so bad
If he bottoms out I will admit I was wrong
 
Seems more and more like the Columbus game broke Laine. 0+1 in 4 games with just 4 shots on goal since going back to Columbus and now sitting out for the 4th straight time. That's 8 straight games of basically nothing from Laine. Hate to say it but this might be a situation were both Laine and @thebus88 were right. Laine was right about Columbus and the terrible mindset that the team had when it comes to winning and loosing, while bus might be right that Laine is just getting by because he has one of the best shots of all time and pretty much nothing else...
I saw all CBJ games with Laine. @thebus is talking nonsense. Do you think just a shot, btw he didn't use it much in the CBJ, would be enough to get him 1 PP per game with centers like Jenner and a winger playing center Roslovic? Take a look at the current CBJ defense and compare it to the last one. Werenski didn't play that well then either, plus he got injured after 13 games in 2022/23 and didn't play anymore. He played excellent, what with no puck, defensively.
And importantly, Evason is a top coach, Larsen and Vincent mediocre, Larsen even below average
.
 
To me this is great. It’s extremely rare to have a star athlete discuss mental health struggles « while » he’s a star athlete. Not « after » which is great too but doesn’t have the same impact for kids,
If we hope to sign Patrik Laine to a decent team friendly deal down the road one of the most important things we can do is to find an outlet for Jordan Leigh and her interests.
 
I saw all CBJ games with Laine. @thebus is talking nonsense. Do you think just a shot, btw he didn't use it much in the CBJ, would be enough to get him 1 PP per game with centers like Jenner and a winger playing center Roslovic? Take a look at the current CBJ defense and compare it to the last one. Werenski didn't play that well then either, plus he got injured after 13 games in 2022/23 and didn't play anymore. He played excellent, what with no puck, defensively.
And importantly, Evason is a top coach, Larsen and Vincent mediocre, Larsen even below average
.

When I see Laine struggle, it's when he tries to do too much with the puck. It's kind of how he got hurt early in the year. Tried to be a puck carrier and dangle through a few players. I know on Columbus, he probably felt he had to do more which exposed him as well.

He is basically Ovi light IMO. His value is his shot. Rest of his game doesn't suck and he gets by. All he has to do is not loose puck battles and not be lazy.
 
I saw all CBJ games with Laine. @thebus is talking nonsense. Do you think just a shot, btw he didn't use it much in the CBJ, would be enough to get him 1 PP per game with centers like Jenner and a winger playing center Roslovic? Take a look at the current CBJ defense and compare it to the last one. Werenski didn't play that well then either, plus he got injured after 13 games in 2022/23 and didn't play anymore. He played excellent, what with no puck, defensively.
And importantly, Evason is a top coach, Larsen and Vincent mediocre, Larsen even below average
.
Laine had 64+74=138 points in 174 games in Columbus, that's not really close to point per game. And who can blame him, Columbus had terrible linemates for him and their powerplay was one of the worst in the whole NHL during his run there. But you would be surprised how far a good shot can take you. It's clear that the opponents fear and respect Laine's shot. That means that Laine can get away with assists that other players can't simply because the other team is expecting the shot. On top of that he'll get assists from rebounds and bounces too with a shot like that.

Laine is closing in on 400 career points and he'll most likely get to 500 career points even by just running on fumes at this point. Personally I think that the shot alone is good enough to get him to 600 career points and if he plays it smart he'll make it to 700 career points just by embracing the journey man route and going from team to team who hope that they can make it work with that shot. But is Laine good enough to get to 800 career points? That would require that he's able to at least reach a new career high and have somekind of peak we haven't seen yet. Time will tell but it's starting to feel like Laine is running out of time...
 
The fact that Savard as been out for the same amount of time is a good sign that this isn't Laine-specific. Just let the guy take his Buckey's and get better.
 
Seems more and more like the Columbus game broke Laine. 0+1 in 4 games with just 4 shots on goal since going back to Columbus and now sitting out for the 4th straight time. That's 8 straight games of basically nothing from Laine. Hate to say it but this might be a situation were both Laine and @thebus88 were right. Laine was right about Columbus and the terrible mindset that the team had when it comes to winning and loosing, while bus might be right that Laine is just getting by because he has one of the best shots of all time and pretty much nothing else...
I guess you didn't notice his ability to sheild the puck while drawing two and three defenders to him then finding a team mate ultimately resulting in Kirby Dach scoring a huge goal for us. The player is not just getting by he is still working on his game much like Kirby Dach and Alex Newhook have been doing.
 
Laine had 64+74=138 points in 174 games in Columbus, that's not really close to point per game. And who can blame him, Columbus had terrible linemates for him and their powerplay was one of the worst in the whole NHL during his run there. But you would be surprised how far a good shot can take you. It's clear that the opponents fear and respect Laine's shot. That means that Laine can get away with assists that other players can't simply because the other team is expecting the shot. On top of that he'll get assists from rebounds and bounces too with a shot like that.

Laine is closing in on 400 career points and he'll most likely get to 500 career points even by just running on fumes at this point. Personally I think that the shot alone is good enough to get him to 600 career points and if he plays it smart he'll make it to 700 career points just by embracing the journey man route and going from team to team who hope that they can make it work with that shot. But is Laine good enough to get to 800 career points? That would require that he's able to at least reach a new career high and have somekind of peak we haven't seen yet. Time will tell but it's starting to feel like Laine is running out of time...
His first season in CBJ was during COVID-19, head concussion in the last. And, if you look at stats his last games, started to take points. Than another injury.

So 2021/22 and 2022/23 - 111 games 48 goals 60 assists 108 points.

Btw, although he enough played with Johnny in 2022/23 season, they had bad chemistry.

But what I must criticise of him is that he tries to go it alone on the OZ, instead of using his excellent passing under pressure to pass to teammates. Of course, he loses the puck since he doesn't have that good of a transition. Oh, and he should use his body more. He can do it, but mostly he doesn't. Martin St. should have a very thorough talk with him. Maybe have him show the success rate of his idiotic ideas on video.
 

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