Player Discussion Patrice Bergeron

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Not telling people or your opponents his injury is smart. Media shit is clicks reaching.

This website is winking out again like the old one. WTF.
 
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Kovi

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So we still talkin bout this?

yet we not talkin about how Espo be calling fans "fat" and "man like" and Panters players calling Nosek's wife a wh0re?

hmm.
 
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I`m going to look at this from a positive view, Bergy is going to be super rested when he returns to help with the cup run:yo:
That's the way I am looking at it at this point. Bergy is the most important player on this team in terms of winning the Cup. As the competition gets better after round 1 all the things Bergy does at a high level will be needed. If I had to pick out two players on the Bs most important for winning a Cup it would be Bergy and McAvoy. What they bring against the toughest matchups is invaluable. Without one or both winning the SCF becomes a very tough task. Not impossible, but the odds drop noticeably.
 

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That's the way I am looking at it at this point. Bergy is the most important player on this team in terms of winning the Cup. As the competition gets better after round 1 all the things Bergy does at a high level will be needed. If I had to pick out two players on the Bs most important for winning a Cup it would be Bergy and McAvoy. What they bring against the toughest matchups is invaluable. Without one or both winning the SCF becomes a very tough task. Not impossible, but the odds drop noticeably.
Hmmm.... I would say Ullmark ! Then Swayman if Ullmark get's injured!
Marchand is in this group.
 

bruinshoper

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Why can’t it be both though? I feel like we can all understand why bergeron did it and agree we all would have done the same, while also recognizing that it was selfish and detrimental to the team.
I for one can’t agree with that logic because I don’t feel that it was selfish at all.
I have no problem with our most valuable players playing in a so called “useless game” in order to stay sharp, be prepared for the playoffs, etc. In fact I personally feel it’s a BETTER approach than sitting.
regardless of any “family factors”.

All the folks pissing and moaning and clutching pearls because “Why did they let our good players play”… I disagree with your viewpoint. I flat out think you’re wrong to think that way.
 

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I predict that if the series goes to Game 6, we'll see Bergeron then, regardless of circumstances. If Florida wins Game 4 to tie the series, then I think we'll see Bergeron in Game 5 .
 

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SUNRISE, Fla. — Close your eyes and you can imagine the scene. Pause and you can practically feel the soaring emotion. Patrice Bergeron, triumphantly skating his way onto the playoff ice, back to reclaim his rightful place centering the Bruins’ top line.

It is a picture the Bruins are still waiting to see this postseason, one that remains on hold until the veteran captain is healthy enough to play. For now, Bergeron’s teammates have no choice but to wait for their ailing leader.

But in typical Bergeron fashion, the captain is making it easier on his teammates to channel their patience, thanks to the picture he is painting for them back home in Boston.

He is the coach on the couch, the captain of the computer, the chief texter in charge. Even when he’s not in the right place, he finds a way to be in the right place.

From some 1,500 miles away, Bergeron continues to lead the way, watching the game with his brilliant hockey mind and keen hockey eye, maybe a plate of chicken wings or a bucket of popcorn by his side, the television, tablet, and laptop all humming before him, but through it all, he’s sharing observations, suggestions, and ideas with the coaching staff and fellow teammates.

Coach Jim Montgomery revealed after the decisive win Friday that Bergeron was texting his thoughts to assistant coach Chris Kelly. Yet while the first-year Bruins coach often describes how much he learns from all of his players, maybe peppering David Pastrnak to describe a goal-scorer’s view of a developing play versus asking Linus Ullmark how he sees things unfold from the goal, Bergeron, he acknowledged, “is exceptional in that regard.” He’s a superstar player Montgomery believes would make an “excellent” coach someday.

He described Bergeron’s Friday missives: “You could tell that he was pretty pumped at the way we were playing, that was the thing that was first and foremost that came out.”

Yet he knew there was more going on.

“You feel helpless,” he said. “It’s like the first time you retire and you come out and coach. You don’t have any impact on the ice and it’s like how do you help? One, he’s incredibly bright mind for the game. The stuff that he shared, whether it was stuff on the neutral zone or the D zone, it was pointed.

“He’s a superstar player who is a superstar because of the details that he has to his game. And in order to be so detail-oriented you have to study. He’s a student of the game so naturally he sees things quickly.”

As alternate captain and Bergeron best buddy Brad Marchand put it: “He has a natural gift of observing and he’s always watching. When you go day to day a lot of people just focus on what they do and what they have going on and what they want to achieve. He has much bigger aspirations for our team. He does everything so well and he’s so prepared but then he’s always like, ‘How do I help you, how do I help the next guy?’

“He’s always trying to find ways to help the entire group and it’s not an easy thing to do. The more I’m around him the more I see how he does it. I try to do it, and it’s very difficult to do. Again, you’re always trying to improve your own game and to then have to take on another 25 guys and worry about how you’re helping them to achieve success, it’s impressive.”

That Bergeron’s contributions are so welcome speaks to the mutual respect between him and Montgomery as well as the confidence of each to not be threatened by the other. Montgomery so appreciates Bergeron being the exception to the usual rule, wherein star players don’t make the best coaches, unable as they can be to explain or teach their God-given skills. The coach referenced Bobby Orr, “the greatest defenseman of all time,” who still might not be able to demonstrate something to a Brandon Carlo the way Bergeron can get through.

“It might be a poor example that I used, but Bergeron is so detailed that in all three areas, he can help anyone. He can help a power-play player, he can help a fourth-line center, a winger, and he can help the defense,” Montgomery said. “He knows everybody’s responsibilities within our structure.”

“It’s got to be tough for him. He’s a playoff player and he thrives in this time of year and it’s got to be hard for him to have to watch and not be in the mix,” Marchand said. “But that’s why he’s such an incredible leader. No matter the position he’s in he’s always trying to find a way to help let guys use his experience to feel good about their game, get better and allow them to be comfortable.

“We’re looking forward to getting him back here soon but we’re very fortunate to have a captain like him leading the way even when he’s not here with us.”

One simple answer might have summed it up best. “Do you think he’s a genius?” Marchand was asked.

“Yeah, I do.”

Proving it daily from a couch up back in Boston.
 

UncleRico

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I for one can’t agree with that logic because I don’t feel that it was selfish at all.
I have no problem with our most valuable players playing in a so called “useless game” in order to stay sharp, be prepared for the playoffs, etc. In fact I personally feel it’s a BETTER approach than sitting.
regardless of any “family factors”.

All the folks pissing and moaning and clutching pearls because “Why did they let our good players play”… I disagree with your viewpoint. I flat out think you’re wrong to think that way.
1. I would have done exactly what bergeron did without hesitation and I would be the most selfish MF’er in the room in that situation.

2. It has to be inherently selfish. He put his own agenda over the organization that employs him and the team around him. Ultimately no matter the way you slice it there are contracts and massive amounts of money tied to how well the bruins do this playoff run. Jobs are on the line and contracts with either the bruins or players next teams will either be directly or indirectly affected (positively or negatively) by how the bruins do in the playoffs and how far they go.

So while yes, I would have done exactly what bergeron did and I would have had zero reservations about it. Without question at the same time it is a selfish move.

As much as people want to tip toe the line of this conversation, you cannot have it both ways because they contradict each other.
 
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DangleCity

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If it was a "nagging" injury that acted up I think it is a valid criticism to wonder why he played 78 games and had 18 minutes of icetime a night into March on a team that was locked into a top 3 divisional spot since mid November.
1000%.... played the most games and minutes in 6 years, there was zero excuse for that to happen.
 

bruinshoper

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1. I would have done exactly what bergeron did without hesitation and I would be the most selfish MF’er in the room in that situation.

2. It has to be inherently selfish. He put his own agenda over the organization that employs him and the team around him. Ultimately no matter the way you slice it there are contracts and massive amounts of money tied to how well the bruins do this playoff run. Jobs are on the line and contracts with either the bruins or players next teams will either be directly or indirectly affected (positively or negatively) by how the bruins do in the playoffs and how far they go.

So while yes, I would have done exactly what bergeron did and I would have had zero reservations about it. Without question at the same time it is a selfish move.

As much as people want to tip toe the line of this conversation, you cannot have it both ways because they contradict each other.
REgarding #2 - I don't believe he put his agenda above the team that employs him. I think playing Bergeron (and other top players on the team), was a coach/managment/team decision. I agree with it because it helps players to stay sharp.
 

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Nope, it's actually going to be 3-1 Bruins heading back to Boston. This was their first loss in 11 games, they need this adversity to kick them in the ass. Sums up their entire season, really.
With such a great team, such foresight is much easier after the game 2 loss - but I am happy as hell this team is so good that I have this kind of faith in them. Very special team.
 

whatsbruin

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Looks pretty injured to me.


We saving the bleach injections for the second round
Doubt it's the back. The guy on the ice hits his back with his stick.
I'm going with rib. He seems to be laboring with stamina, and my guess is hard to breath.
I"m no doctor, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night either.
 
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The Storm

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Doubt it's the back. The guy on the ice hits his back with his stick.
I'm going with rib. He seems to be laboring with stamina, and my guess is hard to breath.
I"m no doctor, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night either.
Rib Injury? Bergeron broke his ribs in the cup final against the Blackhawks years ago. Those areas become more susceptible to injury.

No matter what you do to heal a rib injury, the reality is that it just takes time. Question is did he break or bruise them? It's 4 to 6 weeks. He can probably play sooner. It will be 2 weeks on Thursday, if he got injured in the Montreal game. Rib injuries suck, you cannot BREATHE, sleep, cough, laugh and heaven forbid sneeze.

If I had to bet? Ribs.....
 
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