Passionate Arizona fans is a thing - Brawl

[John Mandalorian]

I would wager the overwhelming majority of unruly passenger cases in 2021 is grown ass children unwilling to wear a mask.

The covid years really just brought laser focus on to the issue that a huge swath of the population has zero regard for courtesy or the wellbeing of anyone else if they are in even the remotest sense inconvenienced. Especially if said inconvenience were in any way perceived as being political.

Perhaps that's part of it. But it's still at almost 800 with two months to go in 2022.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Best game highlights i've ever seen

We got a finger, dude!

 

[ShootIt]

Pretty sure Brendan Lemieux bit that finger off.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

There is zero reason to closed fist punch anyone.

I take it you’ve never had a mentally ill person come at you with a knife

 

[norrisnick]

I take it you’ve never had a mentally I’ll person come at you with a knife

Going out on a limb to state the overwhelming majority of posters on here haven't. Including myself.

 

[Master P]

We got a finger, dude!

Welcome to the Mullet!

10 fingers enter. Only 9 leave!!!

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Going out on a limb to state the overwhelming majority of posters on here haven't. Including myself.

That’s Good news, the thing about speaking in absolutes is that you can find good reasons to do just about anything. That being said agree with your overall premise of triggered people acting out

 

[awfulwaffle]

Late to the party, but love the dude in the red basically opening a beer(believe it was a beer) and proceed to chuck it at the guys down below in front of him. This was a solid scrap, would watch again. 8/10.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Coyotes fans in Boston?

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

We got a finger, dude!

Jesus Christ.

 

[JianYang]

Coyotes fans in Boston?

Is that unusual? I'd imagine that several visiting teams would be well represented in that part of the country.

It's one of the more preferable places for Canadians to nest/visit especially in the winter, and I'd imagine the transient population in general would be realtively high.

 

[TheNumber4]

I blame the League for frustrating and angering Yotes fans that it’s come to this.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

We got a finger, dude!

Wasn’t me!

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Good old booze fueled violence. Everybody always feels highly intelligent the next day.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

What’s he supposed to do specifically?

Well, let’s see. The one thing he does in this entire incident is say something to Brown Jacket Guy. At that moment, all he needed to do was separate BJG from the fight. There’s an entire row of empty seats around the cop — just move BJG to that area, reducing the number of combatants involved.

What does he actually do? He stands there passively while BJG tells him off, then turns around and jumps right back into the fight. And what’s the first thing BJG does? He pulls a guy over a row of seats, sending everyone sprawling.

That’s how you end up with a fellow cop jumping over a melee to try and get it under control — and if the comments above are true, that’s how someone lost a finger. Because you have a cop standing there collecting a public paycheck instead of establishing order at the critical moment.

But hey, it’s just one mistake, right? BJG is responsible for his own actions, so the cop’s main responsibility is to see to it that justice is administered, right?

Well let’s take a look at the second video, which shows the aftermath. What happens to BJG? He gets up and… just kind of stands around while FOUR other people are hauled off in cuffs, including Gronk Jersey Lady who did nothing but get punched trying to break it up. After a full minute of just kind of standing there collecting his bearings and waiting to get arrested, he finally just kind of wanders off on his own accord. At no point is he given any sort of instruction. By all appearances, he was free to go.

One cop in that scenario had the opportunity to stop the brawl before it tumbled over the seats, endangering both the civilians and the responders. One cop had the opportunity to arrest the individual who escalated it to that level.

What did he do instead? He literally just stood there watching every other cop actively intervening, and in at least a couple of cases putting their safety on the line to do so. Literally just standing there in the aisle while active combatants are leaving the scene unidentified.

That’s some bullshit, and a prime example of the worthless cop who can’t be relied upon to do justice to the badge. Hopefully the guy at least gets enough exposure from this to feel some actual shame for being a useless waste of resources at the precise moment when he was very visibly needed.

Well, first he couldn't have stopped the brawl, unless there's another video, as the brawl was in full swing when it (the video) started.

One cop went flying over the pile, while the others/reinforcements just started pulling people from the outskirts.

Brown Jacket Guy certainly isn't a saint, but that brawl was going to continue one way, or another. Cop definitely failed to keep BJG out of it, but it wouldn't have stopped the brawl then and there.

Now what was said, or done we don't know. Someone getting their finger bit off is clearly false, as that would have been posted numerous times in this thread, the article pertaining to that.

Now, it's possible that he could have been useless and stood there, or he was told to observe and take mental notes. Maybe the cops said leave peaceably, or we'll take you out and BJG is the only one who listened. Maybe the cop didn't single him out.

The cop who goes flying over the melee is just as stupid. You going flying over like that is potential to hurt those in the melee and yourself.

Foreground officer could have done a better job with BJG, but you don't jump into a melee like, especially as an officer who's carrying.

If the cop tries to remove BJG, he goes back in, cop goes in after him and holds BJG, he's prone to punches and can't defend himself. That could lead to serious injury, or death. Just like an official shouldn't break a fight up by themselves, a cop shouldn't either unless he/she can get directly between both. This is a multiple people brawl.

Secondly, more extreme, but definitely some severe consequences in thar he gets in the middle and becomes subdued, or someone goes for his gun. Now, not very likely, but it's not impossible.

In short, that guy didn't do the best job, but he did nowhere near as bad as you, Pete Blackburn and others are saying. I get it's the cool thing to do is hate on cops, especially after the Uvalde incident, but this isn't it. And if you're going to try and say he did nothing, then flying cop deserves some hit for his reckless behaviour.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Is that unusual? I'd imagine that several visiting teams would be well represented in that part of the country.

It's one of the more preferable places for Canadians to nest/visit especially in the winter, and I'd imagine the transient population in general would be realtively high.

I was on the wrong side of the country. This was in Arizona. lol

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Well, first he couldn't have stopped the brawl, unless there's another video, as the brawl was in full swing when it (the video) started.

One cop went flying over the pile, while the others/reinforcements just started pulling people from the outskirts.

Brown Jacket Guy certainly isn't a saint, but that brawl was going to continue one way, or another. Cop definitely failed to keep BJG out of it, but it wouldn't have stopped the brawl then and there.

Now what was said, or done we don't know. Someone getting their finger bit off is clearly false, as that would have been posted numerous times in this thread, the article pertaining to that.

Now, it's possible that he could have been useless and stood there, or he was told to observe and take mental notes. Maybe the cops said leave peaceably, or we'll take you out and BJG is the only one who listened. Maybe the cop didn't single him out.

The cop who goes flying over the melee is just as stupid. You going flying over like that is potential to hurt those in the melee and yourself.

Foreground officer could have done a better job with BJG, but you don't jump into a melee like, especially as an officer who's carrying.

If the cop tries to remove BJG, he goes back in, cop goes in after him and holds BJG, he's prone to punches and can't defend himself. That could lead to serious injury, or death. Just like an official shouldn't break a fight up by themselves, a cop shouldn't either unless he/she can get directly between both. This is a multiple people brawl.

Secondly, more extreme, but definitely some severe consequences in thar he gets in the middle and becomes subdued, or someone goes for his gun. Now, not very likely, but it's not impossible.

In short, that guy didn't do the best job, but he did nowhere near as bad as you, Pete Blackburn and others are saying. I get it's the cool thing to do is hate on cops, especially after the Uvalde incident, but this isn't it. And if you're going to try and say he did nothing, then flying cop deserves some hit for his reckless behaviour.

 

[nturn06]

It is not everyday that you can see an entire fan base involved in a brawl.

 

[TheFerenceWheel]

No you DONT throw hands at a woman no matter what. Seriously WTF? Looks like UFC took over some people's heads.

Equal rights (and lefts)

 

[tarheelhockey]

Well, first he couldn't have stopped the brawl, unless there's another video, as the brawl was in full swing when it (the video) started.

I said he had a clear-cut opportunity to remove one of the main instigators, not stop the entire brawl.

But his decision to just stand there and watch BJG rejoin the fight was a turning point. That was what caused the group to tumble over the seats, which is where the situation truly became dangerous. That was squarely on the officer, who had every opportunity to de-escalate BJG before it got to the point of bodies flying over seats.

Now, it's possible that he could have been useless and stood there, or he was told to observe and take mental notes. Maybe the cops said leave peaceably, or we'll take you out and BJG is the only one who listened. Maybe the cop didn't single him out.

If he had actually been taking mental notes, sure. But watch his behavior after the reinforcements show up. Is he identifying anyone who needs to be cuffed? Is he helping innocents who got caught up in the fray? Is he even handling crowd control?

No, he’s literally just standing there, wandering around the scene while everyone else does the work. It is exactly what it looks like, that is not the behavior of someone who’s playing a role in events. It’s the behavior of someone who has taken the attitude that he doesn’t have an active role to play at all. Every workplace has a guy like that, including police forces.

Foreground officer could have done a better job with BJG, but you don't jump into a melee like, especially as an officer who's carrying.

If the cop tries to remove BJG, he goes back in, cop goes in after him and holds BJG, he's prone to punches and can't defend himself. That could lead to serious injury, or death. Just like an official shouldn't break a fight up by themselves, a cop shouldn't either unless he/she can get directly between both. This is a multiple people brawl.

You know what’s more dangerous than holding back an aggressor?

Letting the aggressor throw wild sucker punches on an unsuspecting target, like BJG did immediately after the cop let him rejoin the fight.

And I’m sorry, but if the cop’s job is not to break up the fight, whose job is it? If reinforcements didn’t show up, was he just going to stand there and let these people strangle each other? What is the purpose of having a cop who just stands there and lets people commit violence on each other, escalating to involve innocent bystanders?

In short, that guy didn't do the best job, but he did nowhere near as bad as you, Pete Blackburn and others are saying. I get it's the cool thing to do is hate on cops, especially after the Uvalde incident, but this isn't it. And if you're going to try and say he did nothing, then flying cop deserves some hit for his reckless behaviour.

This isn’t about “cool things”, this is about multiple videos of a violent incident happening in a crowded public area while a cop stands there picking his nose.

I didn’t make the Uvalde connection, but it’s pertinent.

 

[Bowski]

So much Coyote passion...

Byah!

 

[Buffdog]

I would wager the overwhelming majority of unruly passenger cases in 2021 is grown ass children unwilling to wear a mask.

The covid years really just brought laser focus on to the issue that a huge swath of the population has zero regard for courtesy or the wellbeing of anyone else if they are in even the remotest sense inconvenienced. Especially if said inconvenience were in any way perceived as being political.

Or maybe the covid years brought the idea that people like you can treat people who disagree with you like shit and there won't be consequences.

Treat the wrong person badly in public and there just may be consequences after all.

 

[tabness]

love how the announcer comes on after things cool down

timed perfectly lol

Fighting on the ice has decreased under Bettman but fighting in the stands has increased. I love it.

it was important for hockey to keep a level of violence to have fans get their kicks vicariously and now this soft league...

 

[Kimota]

A lot more woman are getting in fights these days.

For our pleasure and entertainment

 

[Kimota]

Pretty rare to see a fight in the pricey seats in the lower bowl. I'd hate to think of the fights that may have taken place in the upper bowl.

Pricey? That's Arizona.