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CarolinaBlueJacket said:
The NFL is by far the king of fights in the stands. I have been to 4 NFL games and have seen more fights than in the hundreds of NHL that I have been to. 99% of NHL fans are great. I even had zero problems in Philly.
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There's probably more fights because NFL stadiums have 4 times as many people.
 
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The only fans that come into San Jose and cause problems are Vegas fans and Red Wings fans.

The Kings fans used to but they must've jumped off that bandwagon after not winning a Cup in 8 years.
 
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TheDogCerby said:
What's he supposed to do ? There's multiple fights going on and it's just him at the start.

I get hating on police is the new trend, but at least do it rationally.
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What’s he supposed to do specifically?

Well, let’s see. The one thing he does in this entire incident is say something to Brown Jacket Guy. At that moment, all he needed to do was separate BJG from the fight. There’s an entire row of empty seats around the cop — just move BJG to that area, reducing the number of combatants involved.

What does he actually do? He stands there passively while BJG tells him off, then turns around and jumps right back into the fight. And what’s the first thing BJG does? He pulls a guy over a row of seats, sending everyone sprawling.

That’s how you end up with a fellow cop jumping over a melee to try and get it under control — and if the comments above are true, that’s how someone lost a finger. Because you have a cop standing there collecting a public paycheck instead of establishing order at the critical moment.

But hey, it’s just one mistake, right? BJG is responsible for his own actions, so the cop’s main responsibility is to see to it that justice is administered, right?

Well let’s take a look at the second video, which shows the aftermath. What happens to BJG? He gets up and… just kind of stands around while FOUR other people are hauled off in cuffs, including Gronk Jersey Lady who did nothing but get punched trying to break it up. After a full minute of just kind of standing there collecting his bearings and waiting to get arrested, he finally just kind of wanders off on his own accord. At no point is he given any sort of instruction. By all appearances, he was free to go.

One cop in that scenario had the opportunity to stop the brawl before it tumbled over the seats, endangering both the civilians and the responders. One cop had the opportunity to arrest the individual who escalated it to that level.

What did he do instead? He literally just stood there watching every other cop actively intervening, and in at least a couple of cases putting their safety on the line to do so. Literally just standing there in the aisle while active combatants are leaving the scene unidentified.

That’s some bullshit, and a prime example of the worthless cop who can’t be relied upon to do justice to the badge. Hopefully the guy at least gets enough exposure from this to feel some actual shame for being a useless waste of resources at the precise moment when he was very visibly needed.
 
Boris Zubov said:
According to the comments in the spitting chicklets instagram post, supposedly one of the combatants bit off another one's finger during the melee. Imagine going to a hockey game & coming home missing an appendage?
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Still, it's nice to see that Alex Burrows is keeping himself busy in retirement.
 
OddManRush said:
They’re all dumbasses, but she went after the dude and should know better next time to stay out of melees 🤷‍♂️
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it was two on one, she jumped in to even up the numbers, one thing this video shows is that it is better to fight with some in the row in front of you than the one behind you lol.
 
TGWL said:
It looked like he just swung and realized what happened after. His reaction after seemed to be leaning over and acknowledged the girl he just hit but the fight continued.

Either way, it's a damn hockey game. I don't know who started it and really don't care. It's a damn game.
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I think your first statement is correct.

A few hundred bucks wasted for seats. Not really too bright lol.

As Bubbles would say you might just as well get all
liquored up and go hang around the parking lot.
 
Bizz said:
The only fans that come into San Jose and cause problems are Vegas fans and Red Wings fans.

The Kings fans used to but they must've jumped off that bandwagon after not winning a Cup in 8 years.
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I've been to several Sharks v Kings games at the Tank over the past couple of decades and honestly, things are pretty light-hearted between the fanbases despite the rivalry. It is mostly just the usual hockey trash talk which is fine and is to be expected.

The worst thing I saw in all the times I went was once some drunk Shark fans picked on a Kings fan and his girlfriend and poured beer on him and smeared mustard on his jersey. I mean, it worked, I shut the f*** up as I think I was wearing a signed jersey and did not want to deal with mustard getting on it :laugh: But that was a one-off outlier, 99% of everyone I run into is pretty nice and we exchange our smack talk and have fun with it :P

I think we can all agree. Vegas is the one that needs to be stopped and all of our collective focus needs to be on stopping that team and their fanbase :sarcasm:
 
Tyrus said:
There are plenty reasons for both.

(I think we've covered all of our options)
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The point is more.

There is no good reason to punch anyone. IE be a grown up don't attack anyone over stupid BS.

Or there can be a valid reasons to punch someone. IE defend yourself if someone is actively physically attacking you.

Sex and/or gender really doesn't factor into the equation in either case.
 
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Boris Zubov said:
According to the comments in the spitting chicklets instagram post, supposedly one of the combatants bit off another one's finger during the melee. Imagine going to a hockey game & coming home missing an appendage?
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It's true... someone posted on Twitter the video of finding the fingertip 😳
 
norrisnick said:
The point is more.

There is no good reason to punch anyone. IE be a grown up don't attack anyone over stupid BS.

Or there can be a valid reasons to punch someone. IE defend yourself if someone is actively physically attacking you.

Sex and/or gender really doesn't factor into the equation in either case.
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Hence the "both".

Plenty of valid reasons to deck people in the face as hard as possible, their biology doesn't factor in.
 
Elvs said:
Is this shit getting more frequent this year or are videos simply being recorded and uploaded at a higher rate?

As someone who's living in Swedem and can't attend games live, I'm genuinaly curious.
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If you pull up year by year unruly passenger incidents (on airplanes), you'll see a drastic spike in 2021. There were 1099 unruly passenger incidents in 2021. During the years before that (going back to 1995), the high was 310 in 2004. In 2022, there were 767 through the end of October.

Perhaps the correlation (if you believe there is one) is that people can't stand each other and the isolation provisions taken during covid has eroded all patience for others? The media has become more antagonistic too.

Unruly Passengers | Federal Aviation Administration

Unruly Passengers
www.faa.gov www.faa.gov
 
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Landeskog Calrissian said:
If you pull up year by year unruly passenger incidents (on airplanes), you'll see a drastic spike in 2021. There were 1099 unruly passenger incidents in 2021. During the years before that (going back to 1995), the high was 310 in 2004. In 2022, there were 767 through the end of October.

Perhaps the correlation is that people can't stand each other and the isolation provisions taken during covid has eroded all patience for others. The media has become more antagonistic too.

Unruly Passengers | Federal Aviation Administration

Unruly Passengers
www.faa.gov www.faa.gov
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I would wager the overwhelming majority of unruly passenger cases in 2021 is grown ass children unwilling to wear a mask.

The covid years really just brought laser focus on to the issue that a huge swath of the population has zero regard for courtesy or the wellbeing of anyone else if they are in even the remotest sense inconvenienced. Especially if said inconvenience were in any way perceived as being political.
 
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