Parayko to leafs rumor

[Suntouchable13]

This guy works for Pro Hockey Rumours for whatever that’s worth.

Buch? That would be interesting.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This guy works for Pro Hockey Rumours for whatever that’s worth.

Is that a credible source?

 

[Bomber0104]

With Edmundson added, this actually seems like it would make some sense...

Buch would be an incredible add as well.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Is that a credible source?

Very unsure. He’s followed by a couple of Leafs adjacent reporters in Nick Richards and Kyle Cushman.

 

[Roo]

Doubtful

 

[mkatcherin00]

It's going to cost a lot for Parayko. He also has a NTC. He has to be willing. Also if TOR want salary retention it will cost even more.

We would all love a player like him, but it seems unlikely to many people.

Just a FYI, unless it has changed, Parayko has gone on record saying that he would waive only for his hometown team (Edmonton). That's from Andy Strickland within the past year. 6 more years left at 6 per I think.

 

[Donnie740]

$6.5 million. Can’t forget that cool half a million as well. It’s a terrifying contract.

Parayko will be 31 in a couple months - - that’s an absolutely BRUTAL contract. He’s TJ Brodie Junior.

No idea why people are so enamoured with this guy. It’s like there’s no concept of salary cap implications.

 

[Fogelhund]

Parayko will be 31 in a couple months - - that’s an absolutely BRUTAL contract. He’s TJ Brodie Junior.

No idea why people are so enamoured with this guy. It’s like there’s no concept of salary cap implications.

Or they know exactly the salary cap implications.

You aren't getting anyone as good, for cheaper as a UFA. Picking up someone with cost certainty for years, has it's value.

 

[rumman]

Or they know exactly the salary cap implications.

You aren't getting anyone as good, for cheaper as a UFA. Picking up someone with cost certainty for years, has it's value.

if he stays healthy and his game doesn't decline it could be a steal, but you know what they say about if's and but's...........

 

[Donnie740]

Or they know exactly the salary cap implications.

You aren't getting anyone as good, for cheaper as a UFA. Picking up someone with cost certainty for years, has it's value.

“Cost certainty” is fantastic when the player is still in his 20’s - - when he’s in his 30’s the only thing certain about a long term deal is that it’s going to be a certain disaster. Especially at $6.5M per. Just a brutal boat anchor of a contract.

Are you happy with Brodie getting $5M this year? What about Tavares getting $11M? The Parayko contract is just as horrible as those two debacles.

 

[Fogelhund]

“Cost certainty” is fantastic when the player is still in his 20’s - - when he’s in his 30’s the only thing certain about a long term deal is that it’s going to be a certain disaster. Especially at $6.5M per. Just a brutal boat anchor of a contract.

Are you happy with Brodie getting $5M this year? What about Tavares getting $11M? The Parayko contract is just as horrible as those two debacles.

You want me to start listing players in their 30's who have excelled to 35/36? It isn't a certainty in the least. Fake drama.

 

[Donnie740]

You want me to start listing players in their 30's who have excelled to 35/36? It isn't a certainty in the least. Fake drama.

For every player who’s excelling and is still at the top of his game when he’s 35/36 years old, there’s at least two that are completely washed up.

Interesting how you avoided my question - - do you think Brodie and Tavares are excelling this year?

 

[Roo]

Parayko will be 31 in a couple months - - that’s an absolutely BRUTAL contract. He’s TJ Brodie Junior.

No idea why people are so enamoured with this guy. It’s like there’s no concept of salary cap implications.

they complain about the money locked up in guys like Tavares, but have no problem taking this on and 'worrying about it in 5y'.

 

[The Masters]

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[Fogelhund]

For every player who’s excelling and is still at the top of his game when he’s 35/36 years old, there’s at least two that are completely washed up.

Interesting how you avoided my question - - do you think Brodie and Tavares are excelling this year?

No, Brodie is not excelling. He's a small D man, who's relied on his skating to keep him relevant. That speed is going away.

Same with Tavares, he position a game where speed is important.

Giordano though, he's been very good up until about 38. Spezza was good enough, until about the same age.

Tanev has still been very good, and is 34, and will command a $5-6 mil contract this free agency, for 4 years, maybe 5.

Pesce is 29, and will be looking for a 7 year deal... but his skating is already gone.

Myers is 34....

Parayko is actually one of the younger guys out there, who might be available. I mean, outside of Peeke, who is a reclamation project... teams don't make mid 20's players available very often. Chara was what... 42 when he stopped playing, was effective until 39/40? It's that size, and positioning that matters for a big D man.

Is it ideal... no, but there is NO certainty it will be a disaster. When you look at the landscape, Parayko's age is on the younger side of when guys are available, unless they force their way out, most often soon to be UFA's. I'm not a fan of pure rentals, and I'd rather have certainty for years, than one....

That's just the reality of the situation.

 

[Donnie740]

they complain about the money locked up in guys like Tavares, but have no problem taking this on and 'worrying about it in 5y'.

It’s the most absurd thought process I’ve ever heard.

As if it’s an NHL’24 video game and you can just drop a guy whenever he’s washed up regardless of how many years are still on his contract.

Interesting how so many were apoplectic about signing Reaves to a 3yr deal for minimum wage.

I seriously wonder how many of those who criticized the Reaves deal are advocating for giving away picks and prospects for Parayko now.

 

[ULF_55]

For every player who’s excelling and is still at the top of his game when he’s 35/36 years old, there’s at least two that are completely washed up.

Interesting how you avoided my question - - do you think Brodie and Tavares are excelling this year?

What would a prime age Parayko's contract be today?

 

[Fogelhund]

It’s the most absurd thought process I’ve ever heard.

As if it’s an NHL’24 video game and you can just drop a guy whenever he’s washed up regardless of how many years are still on his contract.

Interesting how so many were apoplectic about signing Reaves to a 3yr deal for minimum wage.

I seriously wonder how many of those who criticized the Reaves deal are advocating for giving away picks and prospects for Parayko now.

It's not a minimum deal. How is a 4th line plug even a comparable to a top pairing/top 4 D? I mean that's a ludicrous comparison.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I'm not saying It's Parayko but they did put Timmins on LTIR, and they just waived Lageasson, it sure feels like they are cleaning room for something.

 

[43Kadri43]

You want me to start listing players in their 30's who have excelled to 35/36? It isn't a certainty in the least. Fake drama.

Parayko isn’t even excelling now.

Is there any precedent to suggest he will improve and thrive through his 30’s?

 

[Donnie740]

What would a prime age Parayko's contract be today?

Josh Morrissey is light-years better than Parayko could ever dream of being. And he got $6.25M.

Morgan Rielly and Aaron Ekblad at $7.5M are both much better value than Parayko.

Victor Hedman at $7.875M is WAY better value than Parayko.

Nobody with the slightest clue could ever proclaim that $6.5M for Parayko is a bargain.

 

[Fogelhund]

Parayko isn’t even excelling now.

Is there any precedent to suggest he will improve and thrive through his 30’s?

He's been quite good this year.

 

[Fogelhund]

Josh Morrissey is light-years better than Parayko could ever dream of being. And he got $6.25M.

Morgan Rielly and Aaron Ekblad at $7.5M are both much better value than Parayko.

Victor Hedman at $7.875M is WAY better value than Parayko.

Nobody with the slightest clue could ever proclaim that $6.5M for Parayko is a bargain.

Hedman signed in 2016 - that contracts is $9.5 mil now.
Ekblad also signed in 2016... that's $9 mil now.
Morrisey would be $6.75 and isn't as good as Parayko.

You really don't know how this works at all do you?

 

[seanlinden]

“Cost certainty” is fantastic when the player is still in his 20’s - - when he’s in his 30’s the only thing certain about a long term deal is that it’s going to be a certain disaster. Especially at $6.5M per. Just a brutal boat anchor of a contract.

Are you happy with Brodie getting $5M this year? What about Tavares getting $11M? The Parayko contract is just as horrible as those two debacles.

I think it's worth pointing out a few things.

When you sign an older player to a long term deal, you're likely going to regret the last couple of them. It kind of goes with the territory of not drafing players and not acquiring 23 year olds. The same is likely to happen with Nylander's deal.

The hope, especially with Tavares' contract, was that the cap would increase over time, meaning that by the end of the contract, he's maybe the 20th highest paid player in the league, versus still top 10 right now.

Ultimately, the Leafs need to build an actual defensive group; not just "Mo & Friends". There is no draft picks coming that are going to be substantial factors in that. Yes, he's expensive, but he's also a 24-minute-a-night defenceman.

It's gonna mean no Bertuzzi-style deal next year, and that the forwards are even more the "haves and have nots"; but the reality is, that's not on Rielly, that's not on Parayko. That's on the combination of Matthews, Nylander, Marner & Tavares making up the massive amount of money they do.

Yes, Larsson would be better, as he gets a renegotiation at age 33 and would probably garner less commitment than Parayko, but he's seemingly unavailable.

 

[authentic]

People really want Parayko? Isn’t he just a slightly better Lybushkin?