Parayko to leafs rumor

[Donnie740]

He's been quite good this year.

You must be confused with someone else, because Parayko has not been great this year and is clearly in decline.

For those who don’t have the ability to see this when watching him play and need statistics to determine who’s useful and who’s useless, the numbers clearly show Parayko is in decline.

But don’t just take my word for it. Here’s what people who follow the Blues have to say about Parayko:

“He’s a forward trapped in a defenseman’s body; all he wants to do is take the puck up ice with his big height and stick-handling. Maybe that’s where he belongs. Just about everyone else on defense can perform the job better than Parayko, who likes being a statue in his own end.”

“Before you wax poetically about Parayko’s +16 plus/minus rating, let me inform you he had a career high in giveaways last season with 53. That’s ten more than his previous season high.”

Why the Blues should trade Colton Parayko (and also why it’s unlikely)

Don’t actually expect them to do it, but a writer can dream.

www.stlouisgametime.com

“This is the fourth straight season that Parayko’s expected goals percentage has been under 50 percent, dropping each year. His defensive numbers have also ballooned each year, going from 2.24 expected goals against per 60 minutes in 2019-20 to 2.29, 2.58 and 2.79 this season. His goals-against totals have followed.”

“Over the past four seasons, the Blues’ expected goal differential is the same with Parayko on the ice as it is with him off, but their goal differential per 60 minutes is 0.3 worse. Among the 182 defenders to play 2,000 minutes in that timeframe, Parayko ranks 162nd — a shade ahead of Oliver Ekman-Larsson.”

What I'm hearing about Colton Parayko's Blues future and potential trade options

Parayko's name has appeared in trade rumors, but who might be interested? And who would he waive his no-trade clause to join?

theathletic.com

 

[robertmac43]

Morrisey would be $6.75 and isn't as good as Parayko.

Morrisey was in the Norris conversation last year and has been great again this season. He is better than Parayko albeit a slightly different flavour of defensemen.

 

[ULF_55]

Josh Morrissey is light-years better than Parayko could ever dream of being. And he got $6.25M.

Morgan Rielly and Aaron Ekblad at $7.5M are both much better value than Parayko.

Victor Hedman at $7.875M is WAY better value than Parayko.

Nobody with the slightest clue could ever proclaim that $6.5M for Parayko is a bargain.

Hedman - 2016
Morrissey - 2019
Rielly - 2021 and everyone agreed it was a discount after seeing

 

[ULF_55]

People really want Parayko? Isn’t he just a slightly better Lybushkin?

Kind of like Draisaitl isn't very good either?

 

[Gary Nylund]

No, Brodie is not excelling. He's a small D man, who's relied on his skating to keep him relevant. That speed is going away.

Same with Tavares, he position a game where speed is important.

Giordano though, he's been very good up until about 38. Spezza was good enough, until about the same age.

Tanev has still been very good, and is 34, and will command a $5-6 mil contract this free agency, for 4 years, maybe 5.

Pesce is 29, and will be looking for a 7 year deal... but his skating is already gone.

Myers is 34....

Parayko is actually one of the younger guys out there, who might be available. I mean, outside of Peeke, who is a reclamation project... teams don't make mid 20's players available very often. Chara was what... 42 when he stopped playing, was effective until 39/40? It's that size, and positioning that matters for a big D man.

Is it ideal... no, but there is NO certainty it will be a disaster. When you look at the landscape, Parayko's age is on the younger side of when guys are available, unless they force their way out, most often soon to be UFA's. I'm not a fan of pure rentals, and I'd rather have certainty for years, than one....

That's just the reality of the situation.

This is a great post! All too often, people say this guy is 30, 34, 36, whatever the case may be and that's that. But that's not enough, you have to know a lot more about the player in question, that should be obvious. So as far as Parayko goes, I have no idea how he might look a few years from now so I can only hope that our scouting staff is up to the task of providing a good prognosis in a case like this. And if the prognosis is good, then obviously he'd be a massive addition to our team and is exactly the kind of asset that I would be willing to give up futures for.

Ultimately, the Leafs need to build an actual defensive group; not just "Mo & Friends". There is no draft picks coming that are going to be substantial factors in that. Yes, he's expensive, but he's also a 24-minute-a-night defenceman.

Truth! Our D was so much better when it was Mo&Muzzin&Friends, just saying.

 

[Donnie740]

Anyone suggesting Parayko should be paired with Rielly has obviously never watched Parayko play. That combination would be catastrophically bad.

Rielly needs a partner who’s reliable defensively and can cover for his rushes. That’s not Parayko’s game at all.

Ideally, the Leafs would bring in a big physical defenceman who plays strong defensively. That’s also not what Parayko brings.

 

[ULF_55]

This is a great post! All too often, people say this guy is 30, 34, 36, whatever the case may be and that's that. But that's not enough, you have to know a lot more about the player in question, that should be obvious. So as far as Parayko goes, I have no idea how he might look a few years from now so I can only hope that our scouting staff is up to the task of providing a good prognosis in a case like this. And if the prognosis is good, then obviously he'd be a massive addition to our team and is exactly the kind of asset that I would be willing to give up futures for.


Truth! Our D was so much better when it was Mo&Muzzin&Friends, just saying.

And if he faulters at age 35 he can be traded to the Utah Coyotes.

 

[Donnie740]

And if he faulters at age 35 he can be traded to the Utah Coyotes.

With another 1st round pick attached.

Give up a 1st rounder to acquire him, then in a couple years give up another 1st rounder to get rid of him.

Sound familiar?

Fortunately, Treliving isn’t as clueless like that as the last GM was.

 

[ULF_55]

Blues TOI

Most SH TOI/g - Parayko
Most ES TOI/g - Parayko
Most OT TOI/g - Parayko - defense

Someone should tell their coaches.

 

[The Masters]

People really want Parayko? Isn’t he just a slightly better Lybushkin?

 

[Donnie740]

Blues TOI

Most SH TOI/g - Parayko
Most ES TOI/g - Parayko
Most OT TOI/g - Parayko - defense

Someone should tell their coaches.

Why do you suppose St Louis is struggling this year and is out of the playoffs selling at the deadline?

Depending on a guy like Parayko to be your top pair defenceman when he’s clearly not close to that level is a major reason, my friend.

 

[Fogelhund]

Anyone suggesting Parayko should be paired with Rielly has obviously never watched Parayko play. That combination would be catastrophically bad.

Rielly needs a partner who’s reliable defensively and can cover for his rushes. That’s not Parayko’s game at all.

Ideally, the Leafs would bring in a big physical defenceman who plays strong defensively. That’s also not what Parayko brings.

Who to believe, Donnie on the internet, or everybody else in the world?

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This season, however, Parayko has returned to form, killing plays with his stick again, using his size (6-foot-6, 228 pounds) to his advantage, transitioning the puck up and jumping into plays, and, most importantly, shutting down the opposition's top players.


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Colton Parayko​

He is an elite mobile defensive defender, that is great in transition and that possesses great size at 6-6 and 228 lbs and he uses it. Digging into the numbers tip the scale even more in favor of Parayko, he plays against top competition and has logged between 20-24 minutes per night on average since 2016-17.

He has respectable defensive numbers, sitting 155th in xGA/60 of 234 defenders who have logged 1000 minutes at 5v5 over the past three years.

These may seem like relatively mediocre numbers but with the context that he leads all blueliners in ice time over the past three years, they start to look a little better. These numbers look even better after factoring usage and relative to teammate stats where Parayko ranks 48th in xGA/60 relative to teammates and fifth in DZS% (D-Zone Start percentage). Meaning that he starts in the defensive end of the ice, a LOT.

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SCOUTING REPORT
Has grown into a greater defense-minded role after entering the NHL as more of an offensive defenseman. He still has plenty of mobility and a huge shot that is a weapon from the point, but now spends more time killing penalties than on the power play. He can play well over 20 minutes per game on a consistent basis, though he is not always as physical as his size would indicate he should be. Excels at shutting down scorers.

Long Range Potential: Excellent shutdown defenseman with a big shot.

 

[mydnyte]

People really want Parayko? Isn’t he just a slightly better Lybushkin?

half a foot taller can help a lot, size and reach are big needs on our defense.

Look at Carlo in Boston, he isnt 'good' but, he's huge, and hard to get around because of his wingspan.
I was expecting Stanley in Winn to be similar, but, I guess his skating was too bad to compensate

 

[mcleex]

Is this thread active for no reason or is there a real rumor behind this

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Is this thread active for no reason or is there a real rumor behind this

Pagnotta claimed we're inquiring on him.

He's a fairly legit insider in my books so yes there is some credibility behind this.

 

[Donnie740]

As always, I stand behind my assessments of Parayko overpaid and over rated both offensively and defensively.

Really looking forward to reviewing this in two or three years to see how Parayko’s play and contract have aged.

And if any team is dumb enough to overpay for Parayko in the next 24hrs, I’m very much looking forward to reviewing this in two or three months to see if Parayko is a difference maker in the playoffs.

 

[thusk]

No, Brodie is not excelling. He's a small D man, who's relied on his skating to keep him relevant. That speed is going away.

Same with Tavares, he position a game where speed is important.

Giordano though, he's been very good up until about 38. Spezza was good enough, until about the same age.

Tanev has still been very good, and is 34, and will command a $5-6 mil contract this free agency, for 4 years, maybe 5.

Pesce is 29, and will be looking for a 7 year deal... but his skating is already gone.

Myers is 34....

Parayko is actually one of the younger guys out there, who might be available. I mean, outside of Peeke, who is a reclamation project... teams don't make mid 20's players available very often. Chara was what... 42 when he stopped playing, was effective until 39/40? It's that size, and positioning that matters for a big D man.

Is it ideal... no, but there is NO certainty it will be a disaster. When you look at the landscape, Parayko's age is on the younger side of when guys are available, unless they force their way out, most often soon to be UFA's. I'm not a fan of pure rentals, and I'd rather have certainty for years, than one....

That's just the reality of the situation.

5-6M for tanev at 34/35... no way... if forsling just sign at 5.75M, no way tanev resign around 5-6... if he reaching 4M for 2 or 3 year deal, it will be great for him.

but Pesce will be in that range

 

[diceman934]

Huge up grade over Brodie and can play a key role for the next 3 years. Brodie and Robertson as well as our first with Colton coming at 30 percent retained would be a great trade.

 

[rumman]

And if he faulters at age 35 he can be traded to the Utah Coyotes.

You mean the Quebec Nordiques……..

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Acquiring Parayko in 2024?
5 more years after this at 6.5. This better remain a rumor.

 

[Hellcat]

half a foot taller can help a lot, size and reach are big needs on our defense.

Look at Carlo in Boston, he isnt 'good' but, he's huge, and hard to get around because of his wingspan.
I was expecting Stanley in Winn to be similar, but, I guess his skating was too bad to compensate

Yup, A lot of ex-pros talk about how important wing span is for defenders, I tend to listen to people who have actually done a job.

And if he faulters at age 35 he can be traded to the Utah Coyotes.

I thought the new team was the Utah Jets?

 

[realgoodleafs]

Anyone suggesting Parayko should be paired with Rielly has obviously never watched Parayko play. That combination would be catastrophically bad.

Rielly needs a partner who’s reliable defensively and can cover for his rushes. That’s not Parayko’s game at all.

Ideally, the Leafs would bring in a big physical defenceman who plays strong defensively. That’s also not what Parayko brings.

I've seen them play together before and they were good.

 

[Fogelhund]

Yup, A lot of ex-pros talk about how important wing span is for defenders, I tend to listen to people who have actually done a job.


I thought the new team was the Utah Jets?

Utah Saints?

I've seen them play together before and they were good.

They were very good together at the World Hockey Championships.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

https://x.com/TicTacTOmar/status/1765788861379092865?s=20

 

[Donnie740]

Acquiring Parayko in 2024?
5 more years after this at 6.5. This better remain a rumor.

Good to know that I’m not the only one who recognizes what a colossal mistake it would be to acquire Parayko and his boat anchor contract.