Confirmed with Link: Panarin taking leave of absence from NYR (Warning in First Post)

[jay from jersey]

Lmao ok. Again there’s literally nothing supporting this besides the words of a mad man who clearly has an agenda , if you wanna believe that go right ahead but I think you’re a moron for doing so

Context is everything. This guy was so appalled he waited 10 years to say something? No report, no victim, no crime. The troubling part is Panarin taking a leave. I’m sure he has a publicist/ PR guy and he has the full weight of the ranger organization behind him. He is a huge asset for them, money wise and on the ice. They are going to protect their investment unless there is some type of smoking gun evidence.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Guys I am Latvian and never heard this story before. Even I not living there but I following everything happening down here. I think that all is set up. Sorry about my spelling

 

[Number 9]

Panarin has some B A L L S, and clearly this is slander and a phantom punch from 10 years ago. I hope he gets his family out here ASAP!

 

[nyr2k2]

Guys I am Latvian and never heard this story before. Even I not living there but I following everything happening down here. I think that all is set up. Sorry about my spelling

No need to apologize for spelling, you're doing great. And thanks for dropping by and chiming in.

 

[The New Russian Five]

Not really. First of all, one incident as shitty as it is, is not the same thing as systemic rape. Second, maybe not from a US legal side of things but from a moral side of things there's a HUGE difference between 19/20 and like 50/60.

You really didn't just make this argument did you?

Let me reframe what you just said. "Murdering someone in cold blood at the age of 18 is not as bad as murdering someone when you are 50/60."

Please tell me you see how ridiculous this sounds.

 

[Synergy27]

Putin must only see him as a mild annoyance. When he really gets pissed off at someone, he invents allegations of pedophilia. Seriously, why is ANYONE treating this like a real story? Putin does this so often that they have a specific term for it (Kompromat). Panarin has been too blunt and open in his criticism of Putin on several occasions. This is a political shot across the bow. It's Putin's way of saying "shut up or the next round will be worse for you."

I think this is probably right. The only issue I see is the fact that Panarin seems to be treating this like a real story. I suppose he has to because he has family that might be in harms way, but the fact that he didn’t just post an Insta response calling BS on the whole thing is enough to keep the drama level high in and of itself.

 

[Cmox]

I'm tempted to go to the main boards and see what everyone else is saying. Should I spare my blood pressure or not?

Never give in to temptation. You’ll regret it.
On a side note I think the last time I went to the main boards was during the epic photoshopped pic thread with the laid out Lindros.

 

[Number 9]

I think this is probably right. The only issue I see is the fact that Panarin seems to be treating this like a real story. I suppose he has to because he has family that might be in harms way, but the fact that he didn’t just post an Insta response calling BS on the whole thing is enough to keep the drama level high in and of itself.

I think he is afraid more than anything else. Ex KGB is mad at him.

 

[Kshahdoo]

My buddy got stopped with contraband. He gave the cops 240 bucks American and not only did they let him go, they gave him back his contraband lol

Yeah, but it was a bribe. As I said, you don't even need to bribe police, if the case isn't very hard. Like, if it's a murder, then the investigation starts automatically, but if it's something minor, then you need a complaint to investigate the case.

 

[TheTimTamSlammerMan]

Figures this is another draft without a top center lol

 

[jay from jersey]

Yeah, but it was a bribe. As I said, you don't even need to bribe police, if the case isn't very hard. Like, if it was a murder, then the instigation starts automatically, but if it's something minor, then you need a complaint to instigate the case.

True, you can just pay the victim and their fam for their silence

 

[smoneil]

I think this is probably right. The only issue I see is the fact that Panarin seems to be treating this like a real story. I suppose he has to because he has family that might be in harms way, but the fact that he didn’t just post an Insta response calling BS on the whole thing is enough to keep the drama level high in and of itself.

I'm not surprised that he's being cautious and carefully crafting his response. He plays this wrong and not only are his family at risk but he could legitimately end up in a situation where he can never go home again without being immediately arrested. I don't think Putin wants it to get to that level (he loves Russian athletes, and Panarin is one of the best). Bread is walking a very fine line with massive potential (and personal) consequences based on his personal convictions. He needs to figure out what he's willing to sacrifice for those convictions, and that isn't an easy thing for anyone to do.

 

[haveandare]

I think this is probably right. The only issue I see is the fact that Panarin seems to be treating this like a real story. I suppose he has to because he has family that might be in harms way, but the fact that he didn’t just post an Insta response calling BS on the whole thing is enough to keep the drama level high in and of itself.

Imo denying it on social media is a more typical response for something that turns out to be real. Taking a leave from your extremely lucrative job in the public eye, not responding at all, and your company saying they believe this is definitely false is pretty atypical and to me indicates a safety concern

 

[The New Russian Five]

Just want to point out that after tough losses, Panarin is usually the guy that shakes it off easier than others on the team. Never seems to be angry, always starts looking towards solving it for the next game. The guy almost never gets angry in a sport and environment that allows him to get angry, and now we are supposed to believe the guy randomly beat up a girl in a bar over a tough loss? And the source of that story is a politically motivated coach giving this story soon after Panarin back an opposition leader who was just recently jailed for no reason?

Not saying that this might not have happened, but as of right now this is one of the weakest allegations of this sort I have ever seen. There is going to have to be some shred of evidence or someone stepping up to corroborate this story for me to even begin taking it seriously. And I am staunch supporter of the #MeToo movement.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

That post would be a lot better if she didn't butcher the name of our star goalie of 15 years.

Also, paint the Tony D issue as somehow Georgiev's fault...

 

[Kshahdoo]

True, you can just pay the victim and their fam for their silence

Yeah, that's the problem. Without victim's complaint police can't start any investigation even if it wants. That's why there are so many problems with domestic violence investigations in Russia.

I think, it's probably kinda similar in Latvia, or it was in 2011.

 

[jay from jersey]

You really didn't just make this argument did you?

Let me reframe what you just said. "Murdering someone in cold blood at the age of 18 is not as bad as murdering someone when you are 50/60."

Please tell me you see how ridiculous this sounds.

He’s not saying that per say. How bout drunk driving? A dumb kid vs a middle aged guy?? It looks worse for the middle aged guy not the dumb kid. Murder is a capital offense. Either way it’s not good

 

[WojtekWolski86]

This is the NHL f***ing us again, any chance they get. If he's innocent why is he taking a leave of absense?

Who said the NHL or the Rangers for that matter told Panarin to take a leave of absence? Clearly Panarin asked for it. Could you imagine allegations against you that reach headlines in not just one country but international? Based on his anti-Putin support, he's well aware of what Putin/Putin's regime is capable of doing. He is probably taking time to do a damage assessment on how it will affect him, his family and heck even his GF's family. I'm sure once he gets a determination that this is just a smoke screen or he knows his family is safe he can feel comfortable playing hockey.

 

[Daves a mess]

Top Shelf Hockey on YT made an interesting point. Apparently Artemi was " traded from his team about 3-4 weeks after this incident broke".

 

[SnowblindNYR]

You really didn't just make this argument did you?

Let me reframe what you just said. "Murdering someone in cold blood at the age of 18 is not as bad as murdering someone when you are 50/60."

Please tell me you see how ridiculous this sounds.

Murder and assault are two different crimes and I believe murder disqualifies you from getting tried as a minor if you do it as a minor, assault doesn't. This may not be relevant from a legal perspective because Panarin was 19/20 (but from a legal perspective probably statute of limitations are probably in play too). But if you can't see the difference between a teenager or almost 20 year old assaulting someone compared to a 50/60 year old I don't know what to tell you. Teenagers' brains are not fully developed. And comparing systemic rape to one case of drunken assault is asinine. Do one thing as a teenager while drunk is the same thing as someone raping children over and over again. If you can't see the difference you're the one that sounds ridiculous. And no one is defending Panarin's actions if he did do it, but comparing him to Jeffrey Epstein or Harvey Weinstein is the height of absurdity. If some guy gets in a drunken fight in a bar and beats a guy to death, he's the exact same thing as Jeffrey Dahmer. This is exactly how this argument sounds.

 

[CupSeeker]

Figures this is another draft without a top center lol

Draft BPA and make a deal from strength.

 

[The New Russian Five]

He’s not saying that per say. How bout drunk driving? A dumb kid vs a middle aged guy?? It looks worse for the middle aged guy not the dumb kid. Murder is a capital offense. Either way it’s not good

Drunk driving is a different type of mistake. Teenagers drunk drive because they don't think they'll end up hurting anyone. They should know better, but they are young and don't realize how dangerous this is. That is different from attacking someone, where the moral offense is very well defined.

 

[Mikos87]

Terrible news, I actually had to pause take time to reflect on things here on these boards. Look I have ignored literally over hundreds of thousands of posts on these boards for the last several years. Probably close to 500K+ at this point. Over the last several weeks, I've seen some alarming reactions from the folks who I still follow, and I have no context as to what they are referring to. The reason why I bring this up is because it made me think about how the lines get blurred between sports talk, and speculative content creation. For example, a declarative prose isn't cancel culture, it's a prose that doesn't express confusion, capiche? Going full Torts in writing is as simple as writing as if you were Les Grossman. Had a lot of fun with that. You sprinkle hints of tourette's every few sentences & you are golden baby.

Some of us have been on here for more than two decades. Before Twitter.com. Before Social Media. Before Personal Blogs. Before online video. It used to be a bunch of hockey nuts just talking sports, trades, farm systems. It gave us a place to share thoughts on minor league games that were not widely televised, junior league games, international games. Lots of time between fans sharing a common passion.

Somewhere along the way, discussion, shared opinions, thought, & speculation turned into acceptable content that is considered factual. What is really dangerous about this, is besides the smearing of Artemi's name, this is the type of event that creates more speculative content, and given the topic... well some of you are living proof what is amplified on social media, even in this small little old corner of the internet. I felt terrible about hearing this, it's one of the worst experiences of an individual's life. I pray that Artemi will find himself and his family both safe and sound, and in greater spirits.

With that being said, in an act of solidarity for Artemi, I too shall be taking a leave of absence of these boards. This is a byproduct of my own self-selected ignorance. I made a quality of life decision years ago, but had no idea what it has spawned. This is what happens when you only consume only value added knowledge and information, you miss what's going on around you... and boy am I glad I did. There is just no way that I can tolerate this any further. It's time for me to go friends.

Please make an attempt to think for yourselves instead of reacting to what is in front of you.

 

[machphantom]

Carton trying to say Panarin's name and I swear came an inch away from calling him Artem Marinara. Just shows when people call NY a tough sports market, how insanely little coverage hockey gets in NYC

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Top Shelf Hockey on YT made an interesting point. Apparently Artemi was " traded from his team about 3-4 weeks after this incident broke".

Or alternatively, whatshisface timed his invented story to happen 3-4 weeks before he was traded.