Injury Report: Pacioretty ruptures his Achilles again - placed on season ending IR

[Evgeny Oliker]

Where did you hear he was supposed to play this week? I haven't seen that reported anywhere, but in fairness, I don't follow all of the news religiously.

He's practicing but there's been, as far as I know, no targeted return date.

Frederik Andersen: News, Stats, Game Logs | RotoWire

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[Svechhammer]

Frederik Andersen: News, Stats, Game Logs | RotoWire

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Ahh that is an article that takes a tweet that CoryLav relayed a vague timeline from Waddell and quoted it as fact.

When it comes to our team and injuries, don't count on anyone being back until they're actually in the lineup.

 

[Borsig]

Speaking of Patches, at his age, any rumors of an extension and desire to sign here and finish out?

 

[Svechhammer]

Speaking of Patches, at his age, any rumors of an extension and desire to sign here and finish out?

Actually yes. The Athletic had a couple articles recently that he and his family love the Raleigh area and are already considering an extension to settle down here longer term

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I could see us giving Patches a higher dollar one year gig to keep cap flexibility and judge his ability to stay healthy. I don’t know we would do anything long term unless he was willing to take less dollars.

 

[Svechhammer]

I could see us giving Patches a higher dollar one year gig to keep cap flexibility and judge his ability to stay healthy. I don’t know we would do anything long term unless he was willing to take less dollars.

I mean we are at the point where, barring some trades to free up room, we're pretty full up with the roster for the next 5 or so years, especially with the contracts we know we have coming due. Anyone looking to play here long term is going to be in a situation that you see in most contending teams that are square in their window.... How much is winning worth to those players, because we can't afford to pay you market value and you have to take a discount to play here.

 

[raynman]

I mean we are at the point where, barring some trades to free up room, we're pretty full up with the roster for the next 5 or so years, especially with the contracts we know we have coming due. Anyone looking to play here long term is going to be in a situation that you see in most contending teams that are square in their window.... How much is winning worth to those players, because we can't afford to pay you market value and you have to take a discount to play here.

the following players’ contracts expire at the end of this season: Jordan Staal, Jesper Fast, Derek Stepan, Paul Stastny, CDH, and Coghlan is an RFA. Even assuming Jordo re-signs I would think signing Pacioretty shouldn’t be a problem.

 

[Svechhammer]

the following players’ contracts expire at the end of this season: Jordan Staal, Jesper Fast, Derek Stepan, Paul Stastny, CDH, and Coghlan is an RFA. Even assuming Jordo re-signs I would think signing Pacioretty shouldn’t be a problem.

Yeah I'm more worried about when the Aho, Necas, Turbo, Slavin, Pesce, Skjei, etc contracts come due starting next season. We have to be careful when thinking about bringing someone like Patches in that we aren't pricing out someone we also need in order to compete.

 

[Chrispy]

the following players’ contracts expire at the end of this season: Jordan Staal, Jesper Fast, Derek Stepan, Paul Stastny, CDH, and Coghlan is an RFA. Even assuming Jordo re-signs I would think signing Pacioretty shouldn’t be a problem.

Agreed. I don't see a deadline deal for 2023 as likely, but there is definitely some space to maneuver in the offseason, particularly 1 year deals for 23-24.

This doesn't even include that both Andersen and Raanta are UFAs and Kochetkov is signed up at Raanta's AAV long-term.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Yeah I'm more worried about when the Aho, Necas, Turbo, Slavin, Pesce, Skjei, etc contracts come due starting next season. We have to be careful when thinking about bringing someone like Patches in that we aren't pricing out someone we also need in order to compete.

I don’t think Turbo stays, Jarvis takes his spot (and a likely bridge candidate). Necas will likely cost a pretty penny. Pesce and Skjei seem like the guys that finally break our paying for old guys mold. We could give them 8 year deals to keep the cap hit down. Also, if Skjei keeps up this offense for another 2 seasons he’ll price himself out. Slavin and Pesce are likely to get moderate contracts because of their lack of offense. Im not too worried there. Burns falls off when Slavin needs a new deal.

We’ll likely aim to maintain cap flexibility again in the offseason. A 2 year goalie deal that will expire when Slavin needs a new deal (Korpisalo is my guess), patches on a 1 year deal. Then we’ll see if his health and everyone else’s deals / the cap allow us to keep him longer. Probably target Kapanen with 1 year left as the 3RW for further flexibility.

 

[raynman]

Agreed. I don't see a deadline deal for 2023 as likely, but there is definitely some space to maneuver in the offseason, particularly 1 year deals for 23-24.

This doesn't even include that both Andersen and Raanta are UFAs and Kochetkov is signed up at Raanta's AAV long-term.

Forgot about the goalies. That should help as well, especially if they decide to go the 1a/1b route. I don’t see a problem bringing him back

 

[Borsig]

Andersen can pound sand. Raanta, whatever I guess. I think they both need to go. But Andersen can sit on IR somewhere else. Stastny can go. CDH, eh... Coghlan, we've not seen enough of. Staal needs to stay and so does Fast but at the right prices. I'd like to see Patches stay if he keeps playing this way.

 

[MinJaBen]

Sooooooooo....do we need a new one of these or is the old one good enough?

 

[Svechhammer]

Sooooooooo....do we need a new one of these or is the old one good enough?

If its long term, I'll update the thread title so we can use this. Just need to wait for official word

 

[Derailed75]

Sooooooooo....do we need a new one of these or is the old one good enough?

Another thread, or another Patch? Hopefully just the thread!

 

[chaz4hockey]

With a nickname like Patches you have to think he'll just pull out a fix from his wardrobe and be back by next week.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Sooooooooo....do we need a new one of these or is the old one good enough?

I’m operating under the assumption that he tore his other Achilles.

 

[Stickpucker]

With a nickname like Patches you have to think he'll just pull out a fix from his wardrobe and be back by next week.

My cousins had a dog name patches. He was a mean SOB and lived a good long life.

Can we get a poll? who will play more this season Kase or Patches??? HM: Jake Gardnier

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Any update?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Any update?

Just what was @hblueridgegal posted in the other thread on what Brindy said in an interview.

"On The Point on Sirius, RBA said Patches won't likely play tomorrow but downplayed a major injury. He said they like to be extra cautious with players returning after injury."

And that doesn't mean a whole lot.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

In the video from post-game, RBA implied another recovery period but Pacioretty was also just sitting there in flip flops. I imagine if he like tore his Achilles all over again that wouldn’t have been the case.

 

[Svechhammer]

 

[chaz4hockey]

Doubtful for tomorrow is actually encouraging.

 

[CupInSIX]

In the video from post-game, RBA implied another recovery period but Pacioretty was also just sitting there in flip flops. I imagine if he like tore his Achilles all over again that wouldn’t have been the case.

Max in his flip flops to a kid who just tore his ACL:

"first time?"

 

[MinJaBen]

Doubtful for tomorrow is actually encouraging.