Proposal: Pacioretty for Gaudreau
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Uncle Gary
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Last time I checked it rather blue but it looked like the clouds were going to break apart, just like the next 3 years for the Montreal Canadiens.
Considering Monahan has outproduced Gally since he entered the league, thank god you prefer Gally.
Calgary gets robbed on this no matter how you put it. Max is what 28/29 going into this season? Generally speaking he is already at his peak, Gaudreau hasn't even peaked yet and he is out producing Max. The capspace does not warrant that kind of loss of skill.
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Gaudreau is worth more but Pacioretty has an incredible contract for the next three years.
Calgary's going to be paying Gaudreau 8M per year for the next 8 years due to his last two (and only two) seasons in the NHL.
I love Gaudreau but they're about to sign a risky contract for a tiny guy. No matter how good he's been for two years, they're entering dangerous territory.
Calgary's going to be paying Gaudreau 8M per year for the next 8 years due to his last two (and only two) seasons in the NHL.
I love Gaudreau but they're about to sign a risky contract for a tiny guy. No matter how good he's been for two years, they're entering dangerous territory.
I'd say Medium risk but high reward. I say medium because as most people have seen Johnny now and the size thing has always been against him but hes always proved to buck the that thing about him. I mean even larger players can have their careers go down with a single hit. But the stature is there for high change of injury.
We already know what we get out of Max, he is what I'd call high value per cost. But the thing is that the upper ceiling of Johnny is so much higher there and at his age its so close to being a franchise moniker, something you wouldn't really put on Max.
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Risky?
There's a fairly decent chance Gaudreau will win an Art Ross or two within his new contract. The only reason Flames are hesitant to pay him is because it is rarely a good idea for your cap to be tied up in a winger. The likelyhood Pacioretty wins an Art Ross is pretty much nil.
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Gudreau is worth more than Patches, without a doubt, but this is ridiculous.
You are way overrating Johnny Hockey.
Paccioretty's overpaid; does nothing! He only scores, because he always has the puck. He never shoots, though. He passed, then the fourth time in 15 seconds he gets the puck, he finally releases one. He's not a 1st liner!
Everything except the last sentence here is ridiculous. With guys like McDavid, Benn, Kane, Crosby, etc. still in, or entering, their prime "decent chance of an Art Ross or two" is quite the exaggeration. Also, the reason he's not being signed to 8 mil plus is not because he's a winger, it's because the club isn't sure he deserves it yet. A quick glance at cap hits league-wide will tell you that. What's the going rate for guys who have "decent chances" at Art Ross trophies (let alone multiple)?
Gaudreau is one of the better wingers in the game, and he's young, so his value is higher than Patches. But that difference in value is NOT Sergachev + Galchenyuk. Definitely not the latter.
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sully1410
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how about we keep Pacioretty @ 4.5M while you guys pay Gaudreau 8M, lets do that~
wait wut????
thats litteraly the first time ever i see Pacioretty + Overpaid in the same sentence. you can have your opinion if he is or isnt a 1st line elite material, thats correctly arguable, but Overpaid? what the actual **** pacioretty has one of the better contract for what he brings in the whole league. wich inscreases his trade value by a ton.
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If Johnny signs for market value at about 6-6.5 million for 6-8 years.....Flames laugh at Patches offer. No way Flames even remotely consider it, that would be highway robbery if somehow Habs made that trade happen. Flames easy pass, block Habs number.
Now if Johnny real wants 8+ million per year for 6-8 years, that hurts his value some. Then it at least becomes a reasonable conversation with a plus from Habs.
PS Neutral fan here
Now if Johnny real wants 8+ million per year for 6-8 years, that hurts his value some. Then it at least becomes a reasonable conversation with a plus from Habs.
PS Neutral fan here
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Why would the habs pay Gaudreau twice the amount of pacs when he isnt twice the player pacs is. Habs keep that money and use it on Price and Galchenyuk.
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Well let's see, Johnny is already arguably the better player, 4 years younger and will be signing a new deal likely in the 6-8 year term range. Patch is signed only for three more years before UFA. No one knows for sure what johnnys asking price is, only speculation and "reports". As I stated in my first post all depends on term and dollars they settle on. Johnny at 6-6.5 million with a 6-8 term is much more valuable then Patches.
Johnny at 8 million for 6-8 years really comes down to if Habs are in win now mode over next three years or not, it becomes a decision making process at least at this point.
For the Flames now, it's a no brainer you keep Johnny, wouldn't even consider Patches.
Again I have no skin in this game, you guys can fight it out. Neutral fan out of here.
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Gaudreau is the better player, but this doesn't make sense for either team. Pacioretty is the Habs' captain and is on a cap-friendly deal. Plus, management just doubled down on him after last season's failure. Not to mention Gaudreau isn't a good fit on the Habs considering he'd be yet another undersized winger, and I'm not sure how he'd get along with a guy like Therrien.
Makes no sense for either team, really.
Makes no sense for either team, really.
