Owen Sound Attack 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)

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I think there were a few key details to take out of the piece. #1 - Barlow is firmly off the table. If he is traded it will be next season. #2 - He isn't selling. #3 - He's searching to add a veteran D and a depth forward.(fan opinion of what that looks like will be wildly different)

That being said, he did hedge a bit with his comments talking about the point you made with how much influence a good or bad week can have in the standings. I think it will be a few weeks before the serious wheeling and dealing takes place and those games between now and then will have significance in decision making. The Attack schedule leading into the deadline is pretty good. They have the opportunity to get on a run and possibly separate themselves a bit from the bottom of the standings.

I also thought the comments about the state of the coaching staff were interesting as he didn't rule out adding another coach behind the bench though that wouldn't take place soon. It seems pretty clear Rumble will be HC but adding another AC to the bench would be nice.
Me personally I think Barlow is a jet next season. We will see though as he has seemingly struggled with consistency this year. A big world juniors could help with any potential confidence issues that have risen.

Who on the attack is gone next season?
 
Me personally I think Barlow is a jet next season. We will see though as he has seemingly struggled with consistency this year. A big world juniors could help with any potential confidence issues that have risen.

Who on the attack is gone next season?
Unless Barlow explodes in the second half of this season he will be back in the OHL. I don't think he gets invited to Canada's selection camp this season with his injury and mediocre performance so far by his lofty standards. One final year in junior and a chance to represent Canada at the WJC tournament next season is I think the most likely scenario.

Projections for grads at the end of this year:
OAs - Sedley, Burroughs, Goure
04s - Guindon(50/50 I think on if Montreal signs him), Petrovsky(import), Votary(don't see them keeping an OA back up in net),
04s in mix as OAs - Jordan, Steen, Hookey and Stewart.
 
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Unless Barlow explodes in the second half of this season he will be back in the OHL. I don't think he gets invited to Canada's selection camp this season with his injury and mediocre performance so far by his lofty standards. One final year in junior and a chance to represent Canada at the WJC tournament next season is I think the most likely scenario.

Projections for grads at the end of this year:
OAs - Sedley, Burroughs, Goure
04s - Guindon(50/50 I think on if Montreal signs him), Petrovsky(import), Votary(don't see them keeping an OA back up in net),
04s in mix as OAs - Jordan, Steen, Hookey and Stewart.
Wow lots of players potentially gone
 
Me personally I think Barlow is a jet next season. We will see though as he has seemingly struggled with consistency this year. A big world juniors could help with any potential confidence issues that have risen.

Who on the attack is gone next season?
CB will not be going to WLD Juniors.
He will be in OS for another calender year.
 
CB will not be going to WLD Juniors.
He will be in OS for another calender year.
Looks like Petrovsky and Matejicek are going to their respective country's selection camps and will be the only Attack players to go. Slovakia camp starts Dec 11th so I would assume we have Petrovsky until the Sarnia game on Dec 9th. Hopefully Barlow is healthy enough to return by then. Matejicek going opens the door for Smith and Ethier to get a few games. I wouldn't mind seeing them rotate Smith and Ethier in his absence. Ethier has yet to get a look this season.

Wow lots of players potentially gone
Not just players gone but significant players gone. Definitely influences the decision making process this season with respect to the trade deadline.
 
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Votary goes in net this afternoon. Nansi in for Tersigni.
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I don't know exactly what to say a about a team who beats the Rangers 4-1 on the road, then after sitting home for a week and playing one game, collapses totally, defensively.

Top to bottom .
 
OS, thoughts on Holomego’s slew foot? In person, was it a true slew foot?

I’m not going to be a homer to day it wasn’t, because I think it was, but I wasn’t sure if in person it was different. I’d say he gets 1-2 games, but fortunately Goure wasn’t injured. It didn’t seem like Holomego intentionally went after Goure.
 
I don't know exactly what to say a about a team who beats the Rangers 4-1 on the road, then after sitting home for a week and playing one game, collapses totally, defensively.

Top to bottom .
They went up 5-2 and then packed it in. It's like they just took their foot off the gas as it was all Otters the rest of the way. That's definitely a game they need to win and hard to say anything other than they just frittered it away. Really disappointing from a team that was playing pretty good hockey lately.

I also thought it was a short hook on Votary. Coach Rumble said he didn't like the goals and I can give him the first one(though I think the shooter disguised the shot around the Attack defender's skate which prompted a surprised Votary) but the second one deflected off Addy right in front of him. I guarantee you George wouldn't get the hook like that in the same scenario. Clearly shows the coach has zero confidence in Votary.

OS, thoughts on Holomego’s slew foot? In person, was it a true slew foot?

I’m not going to be a homer to day it wasn’t, because I think it was, but I wasn’t sure if in person it was different. I’d say he gets 1-2 games, but fortunately Goure wasn’t injured. It didn’t seem like Holomego intentionally went after Goure.
Meets the requirements of a slew foot by definition but wouldn't say it was malicious. Slew foot comes with an automatic 2 game suspension though the team has the option to appeal. Wouldn't shock me if he avoided suspension.
 
OS, thoughts on Holomego’s slew foot? In person, was it a true slew foot?

I’m not going to be a homer to day it wasn’t, because I think it was, but I wasn’t sure if in person it was different. I’d say he gets 1-2 games, but fortunately Goure wasn’t injured. It didn’t seem like Holomego intentionally went after Goure.
It was at the far end so it was tough to get a good read.

It certainly wasn't malicious.

If anything he was engaging with the forward.

Which is something we've seen little evidence of with our blueline .
 
They went up 5-2 and then packed it in. It's like they just took their foot off the gas as it was all Otters the rest of the way. That's definitely a game they need to win and hard to say anything other than they just frittered it away. Really disappointing from a team that was playing pretty good hockey lately.

I also thought it was a short hook on Votary. Coach Rumble said he didn't like the goals and I can give him the first one(though I think the shooter disguised the shot around the Attack defender's skate which prompted a surprised Votary) but the second one deflected off Addy right in front of him. I guarantee you George wouldn't get the hook like that in the same scenario. Clearly shows the coach has zero confidence in Votary.


Meets the requirements of a slew foot by definition but wouldn't say it was malicious. Slew foot comes with an automatic 2 game suspension though the team has the option to appeal. Wouldn't shock me if he avoided suspension.
Watched the game and I agree, the second one deflected off Addy. In my opinion you hurt both goalies confidence, Votary by the early premature pull, and George by putting him in and he lets in 6. Players that play the PP and the PK looked very tired as they were overused in those roles. I would have tried a few others to save some legs.
 
Watched the game and I agree, the second one deflected off Addy. In my opinion you hurt both goalies confidence, Votary by the early premature pull, and George by putting him in and he lets in 6. Players that play the PP and the PK looked very tired as they were overused in those roles. I would have tried a few others to save some legs.
They used both PP1 and 2 during the 2 weekend games.

And they only had 2 home games this week .
There were whispers something going thru the team this week . No way to verify or not .
 
Watched the game and I agree, the second one deflected off Addy. In my opinion you hurt both goalies confidence, Votary by the early premature pull, and George by putting him in and he lets in 6. Players that play the PP and the PK looked very tired as they were overused in those roles. I would have tried a few others to save some legs.
Tired? They played 2 games this week as Millpond suggested. On Saturday they played PP2 more then PP1, as PP1 struggled.

They showed on both days that they have the ability to be the dominant team that we all see on paper, but need to continue to work on the 'killer instinct'. Hopefully it comes, well see.
 
OS, thoughts on Holomego’s slew foot? In person, was it a true slew foot?

I’m not going to be a homer to day it wasn’t, because I think it was, but I wasn’t sure if in person it was different. I’d say he gets 1-2 games, but fortunately Goure wasn’t injured. It didn’t seem like By the definition of Holomego intentionally went after Goure.
I wouldn't have called it but I'm old school. He probably gets the automatic 2 but wouldn't be surprised if they look at video and he ended up with no suspension which IMHO would be the right call.
 
I wouldn't have called it but I'm old school. He probably gets the automatic 2 but wouldn't be surprised if they look at video and he ended up with no suspension which IMHO would be the right call.
I didn't think it would be a suspension either personally. I believe the Attack were successful on appeals last season a couple of times and didn't think this was any worse than those. League felt differently I guess.

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Barlow left off selection camp roster. Is this an indication of how serious his injury is? That is my take anyway. I always thought he was being told by Team Canada brass to not play another game in the O and we will help with treatment, etc. Apparently not, or else the injury is long term and we may not see our captain for another month or two???

Get better 39!
 
Barlow left off selection camp roster. Is this an indication of how serious his injury is? That is my take anyway. I always thought he was being told by Team Canada brass to not play another game in the O and we will help with treatment, etc. Apparently not, or else the injury is long term and we may not see our captain for another month or two???

Get better 39!
His injury was recently downgraded from week to week, to now being day to day but I don't think he's practiced yet. If he's back on the ice this week then he'll be close to rejoining the team. The injury is a back strain.

As far as Team Canada goes, this is a 19 year old tournament. Barlow was always going to face an uphill battle to earn a spot. His injury situation and performance to date would push him off the roster. He will get another crack at it next season as a 19 year old when he will likely be counted on as a significant piece of the team.
 
His injury was recently downgraded from week to week, to now being day to day but I don't think he's practiced yet. If he's back on the ice this week then he'll be close to rejoining the team. The injury is a back strain.

As far as Team Canada goes, this is a 19 year old tournament. Barlow was always going to face an uphill battle to earn a spot. His injury situation and performance to date would push him off the roster. He will get another crack at it next season as a 19 year old when he will likely be counted on as a significant piece of the team.
I don't think Hockey Canada has any influence on a previously injured players status.
Their treatment would only come into play if the injury occurred in TC training camp, or the tournament
 
I don't think Hockey Canada has any influence on a previously injured players status.
Their treatment would only come into play if the injury occurred in TC training camp, or the tournament
That would be correct. NHL teams can influence or intervene on players they have drafted in certain situations but an organization such as Hockey Canada wouldn't have any involvement.
 
His injury was recently downgraded from week to week, to now being day to day but I don't think he's practiced yet. If he's back on the ice this week then he'll be close to rejoining the team. The injury is a back strain.

As far as Team Canada goes, this is a 19 year old tournament. Barlow was always going to face an uphill battle to earn a spot. His injury situation and performance to date would push him off the roster. He will get another crack at it next season as a 19 year old when he will likely be counted on as a significant piece of the team.
Stellar thanks for this post I have had some heavy discussions with people. Many don't get this is primarily a 19 yr old tourney. Another factor holding back an injured player this year is IMHO the smaller(30 player) selection camp. H.C can't afford gambling on a strained back they needed to pick more sure players. Like you say Colby will be counted on more next year.
 
Stellar thanks for this post I have had some heavy discussions with people. Many don't get this is primarily a 19 yr old tourney. Another factor holding back an injured player this year is IMHO the smaller(30 player) selection camp. H.C can't afford gambling on a strained back they needed to pick more sure players. Like you say Colby will be counted on more next year.
I think if Barlow was going to make this team it wasn't likely to be as a front line player. I think the piece of his game that would have had him in consideration was his bottom six utility as a penalty killer and defensively responsible player. As an 18 year old, his on ice performance needed to be elite to get the invite and when healthy this season it's been ok at best by his standards. The injury situation would have sealed the deal.

He should be a prominent piece on next year's team I would expect, possibly a Captain Canada candidate.
 
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