Owen Sound Attack 2022-23 Season Thread

[KFawcett]

there are just people in the world that need to complain about something. just in their dna

Exactly. I can't help but laugh at the people saying give me a break on the we took 4 out of 6 pts. I mean do the simple math if a team COULD take 4 out of 6 all season where would that put them in the standings? I'm saying pretty close to the top. Jr hockey is a roller coaster there are ups and downs,always has been and always will be.

 

[Millpond]

Going to be interesting to see if any moves are made heading into the weekend. Looks like Steen should be back which will be a boost to the D if Sedley remains at forward. Lawrence's status is unclear with him sitting against the Soo and only playing about half the Sudbury game. Cormier hasn't played since he took that hit against Guelph. Bryant isn't close to returning and Bonauito is out indefinitely. Petrovsky will be leaving for the WJC tournament. Would seem to be a good time to bring in another forward.

Only 1 player missing at practice.

I didn't hear about that must have been sad sorry

Funeral today, about 300 there, including everyone from the Attack .

Ray was the team's 'rudder' since 1989.

 

[Millpond]

Exactly. I can't help but laugh at the people saying give me a break on the we took 4 out of 6 pts. I mean do the simple math if a team COULD take 4 out of 6 all season where would that put them in the standings? I'm saying pretty close to the top. Jr hockey is a roller coaster there are ups and downs,always has been and always will be.

91 pts

 

[Stellar29]

Only 1 player missing at practice.

Good news on the injury front. I'm assuming the 1 player missing was Bonauito? Sawyer/Bryant getting close to a return would be welcome.

 

[KFawcett]

91 pts

Exactly which this year I believe would be pretty high. We aren't far away from halfway and nobody is real close to 45 pts. Also does 4 out of 6 mean winning 2 out of every 3 gms if so does that mean we NEVER play a 7 gm series in the playoffs? Do I think that is reality probably not but I'm just trying to show you can spin the story however you like. Anyone who has watched Jr hockey knows what a rollercoaster it is thats what has us all addicted. I'm a glass is half full person so I spin my stories that way.

 

[Stellar29]

Exactly which this year I believe would be pretty high. We aren't far away from halfway and nobody is real close to 45 pts. Also does 4 out of 6 mean winning 2 out of every 3 gms if so does that mean we NEVER play a 7 gm series in the playoffs? Do I think that is reality probably not but I'm just trying to show you can spin the story however you like. Anyone who has watched Jr hockey knows what a rollercoaster it is thats what has us all addicted. I'm a glass is half full person so I spin my stories that way.

If you look at the Attack record mathematically, after 26 games the Attack have accrued 34 points out of a possible 52 which works out to roughly 65%. Pretty darn close to 4 out of every 6 points on the season. Currently on pace for about 42 wins.

 

[OHL4Life]

If you look at the Attack record mathematically, after 26 games the Attack have accrued 34 points out of a possible 52 which works out to roughly 65%. Pretty darn close to 4 out of every 6 points on the season. Currently on pace for about 42 wins.

and some think thats bad?

 

[Stellar29]

and some think thats bad?

Comparing to the last ten seasons for reference:
2021-2022 - 34 wins 56% point percentage
2019-2020 - 30 wins 55% point percentage
2018-2019 - 31 wins 50% point percentage
2017-2018 - 38 wins 62% point percentage
2016-2017 - 49 wins 75% point percentage
2015-2016 - 32 wins 55% point percentage
2014-2015 - 35 wins 58% point percentage
2013-2014 - 31 wins 51.5% point percentage
2012-2013 - 44 wins 69% point percentage
2011-2012 - 32 wins 52% point percentage

 

[OSAttackFan88]

Comparing to the last ten seasons for reference:
2021-2022 - 34 wins 56% point percentage
2019-2020 - 30 wins 55% point percentage
2018-2019 - 31 wins 50% point percentage
2017-2018 - 38 wins 62% point percentage
2016-2017 - 49 wins 75% point percentage
2015-2016 - 32 wins 55% point percentage
2014-2015 - 35 wins 58% point percentage
2013-2014 - 31 wins 51.5% point percentage
2012-2013 - 44 wins 69% point percentage
2011-2012 - 32 wins 52% point percentage

It’s not that we as fans think it’s bad, myself personally think that the teams number 1 is to achieve 30 win seasons and no matter how it plays out they call the season a success. I think the goal should has to be winning the OHL championship. That’s why they play the game.

 

[OHL4Life]

It’s not that we as fans think it’s bad, myself personally think that the teams number 1 is to achieve 30 win seasons and no matter how it plays out they call the season a success. I think the goal should has to be winning the OHL championship. That’s why they play the game.

you think an ohl team doesn’t care if they win championships?

 

[Stellar29]

you think an ohl team doesn’t care if they win championships?

It's a team that doesn't want to sacrifice future seasons to go all in chasing a title. They have put an emphasis on the draft and development of their players to build a contender internally. Pretty hard to argue against the work they've done of late of getting players to Owen Sound and turning them into contributors to the team's success. They've put together very good teams without running lean years in between. It would be pretty disingenuous as a fan to try and claim they don't want or aren't trying to win championships. That's absolutely the goal, just not at all costs.

 

[OSAttackFan88]

It's a team that doesn't want to sacrifice future seasons to go all in chasing a title. They have put an emphasis on the draft and development of their players to build a contender internally. Pretty hard to argue against the work they've done of late of getting players to Owen Sound and turning them into contributors to the team's success. They've put together very good teams without running lean years in between. It would be pretty disingenuous as a fan to try and claim they don't want or aren't trying to win championships. That's absolutely the goal, just not at all costs.

But honestly how often is the western conference a huge question mark with no true powerhouse team. I just think if you are OS you try and take advantage of it and go all in for a run.

 

[Stellar29]

But honestly how often is the western conference a huge question mark with no true powerhouse team. I just think if you are OS you try and take advantage of it and go all in for a run.

With how wide open the conference is there are more buyers than sellers. Clearly going to be a sellers market this year. Teams that appear to be sellers are bidding for a mem cup which impacts who/what they are willing to move. I would expect the acquisition costs would be higher than normal most likely as we move closer to the deadline. The team is likely stronger on paper next season. The Attack don't typically do big buys/big sells and the draft cupboard reflects that. We have picks but it would take the majority of them to make a big splash and potentially leave you with little to augment next season. It's a catch 22.

I've only lived in Owen Sound for the last ten years so I'm not the expert by any means but I have to imagine there's a responsibility to the marketplace in terms of fielding a competitive team. We have the smallest market in the OHL. I know the fan base is passionate and behind the team but does that waver during a three year lull in a full rebuild when we don't have picks/players? Can ownership stomach low tickets sales/revenues for an extended period of time, especially after a lost COVID-19 season and season with no/low attendance? There's a lot more involved than just managing the roster.

I can certainly appreciate as a fan looking at the team and seeing a window to chase a title and being disappointed if they don't take a swing. As much as I would love to see another championship in Owen Sound, I think the long term health and stability of the franchise in Owen Sound is the most important thing to keep in mind.

 

[OSattackfan]

With how wide open the conference is there are more buyers than sellers. Clearly going to be a sellers market this year. Teams that appear to be sellers are bidding for a mem cup which impacts who/what they are willing to move. I would expect the acquisition costs would be higher than normal most likely as we move closer to the deadline. The team is likely stronger on paper next season. The Attack don't typically do big buys/big sells and the draft cupboard reflects that. We have picks but it would take the majority of them to make a big splash and potentially leave you with little to augment next season. It's a catch 22.

I've only lived in Owen Sound for the last ten years so I'm not the expert by any means but I have to imagine there's a responsibility to the marketplace in terms of fielding a competitive team. We have the smallest market in the OHL. I know the fan base is passionate and behind the team but does that waver during a three year lull in a full rebuild when we don't have picks/players? Can ownership stomach low tickets sales/revenues for an extended period of time, especially after a lost COVID-19 season and season with no/low attendance? There's a lot more involved than just managing the roster.

I can certainly appreciate as a fan looking at the team and seeing a window to chase a title and being disappointed if they don't take a swing. As much as I would love to see another championship in Owen Sound, I think the long term health and stability of the franchise in Owen Sound is the most important thing to keep in mind.

Me as a fan would like to see the team get passed the first round of play-offs for a change. Enough of status quo ,IMO

 

[KFawcett]

Me as a fan would like to see the team get passed the first round of play-offs for a change. Enough of status quo ,IMO

I think we all want to see that including players management and ownership group. My question is what assets do you think we need to go all in and where do you get those assets?

 

[OSAttackFan88]

I think we all want to see that including players management and ownership group. My question is what assets do you think we need to go all in and where do you get those assets?

Draft picks and young players… recoup those picks back when you have to trade away some OAs next season.

 

[Greys]

Man the Guelph TV announcers are whiney homer's. But nice to see the interview of Mark McKelvie on grampa Ray.

 

[OHL4Life]

Me as a fan would like to see the team get passed the first round of play-offs for a change. Enough of status quo ,IMO

they had bad drafts in 4-5 years ago and payed the price with poor results. i would say they are now one of the best drafting teams and should see more post season success.

not like sudbury who really sturggle with drafting for most seasons and dont ever do anything.

 

[OSAttackFan88]

They can’t allow that goal with less then 2 min remaining in the game.. ugh that is so frustrating not to get at least a point in that game.. Sedley and seed are not top pairing Dman.

 

[DCruickshank]

Draft picks and young players… recoup those picks back when you have to trade away some OAs next season

 

[KFawcett]

Draft picks and young players… recoup those picks back when you have to trade away some OAs next season.

The problem there is unless the data base is wrong we don't have a lot of seconds over the next few years. I think we are pretty much done trading maybe a minor deal but that's it.

 

[KFawcett]

They can’t allow that goal with less then 2 min remaining in the game.. ugh that is so frustrating not to get at least a point in that game.. Sedley and seed are not top pairing Dman.

That was a bad goal to give up. I don't like Sedley and Seed together.

 

[Millpond]

The problem there is unless the data base is wrong we don't have a lot of seconds over the next few years. I think we are pretty much done trading maybe a minor deal but that's it.

Certainly no deals for picks .
It'll have to be players .

 

[OHL Prophet]

That was a bad goal to give up. I don't like Sedley and Seed together.

I have been saying that all year but get torched for every negative comment or criticism. They play 25-30 mins per night. Explain to me like I am in kindergarten how that is deserved/earned? 6 actually had a great game but not when he was out there with 9.

People picking apart my comment about the 4 points of possible 6 all week when my main point of that post was the PP. LOL!

Hallelujah! Tonight they score two PP goals early with the first change all season with going two D men on the PP. Two goals early. Then what? Right back to the love affair with #9 and back to him being the QB with the slow ladder play and a few shorthanded chances against. Why???????? It's like this is a Novice team and his dad is the coach? What is seriously going on here with that?

 

[OHL Prophet]

They can’t allow that goal with less then 2 min remaining in the game.. ugh that is so frustrating not to get at least a point in that game.. Sedley and seed are not top pairing Dman.