Prospect Info: Owen Beck

[Garnet76]

I was hoping the Habs would grab him, but of course they didn't. Decided they need 3 goalies.

It would be great, but I think Beck's ceiling is elite number 3C, which seems odd and everything. How can you be the 3rd best centre on your team AND be elite unless your team is ridiculously stacked ?

He'll do everything right and be trusted in any situation. A centre you want, but you'd need to overpay if he ever became a free agent, or pay a hefty price to acquire in a trade. Almost like Adam Lowry. Beck obviously won't have the fighting prowess of Lowry.

I agree with you. I think he tops out at as a 3rd line center and good on the PK. Unfortunately I don't see high offensive upside with Beck at the NHL level but he should be valuable in his roll.

I understand the Habs not taking another LHD in the draft but Dionicio looked great in this game.

 

[samsagat]

As much as I appreciate Evans, if the Habs ever want to become a contender they have to upgrade from Jake Evans. I am still trying to figure out why MSL used him so much in OT.

Because he wins faceoffs and he's smart.

Evans is actually playing a role above his head, but he's an excellent 4th line center, doing all the "little things right".
And he can move up to a 3rd line in case of injury.


Beck on the other hand, future bottom or middle 6er?

Personally I see him as a quality middle 6, à la Danault.

He's playing a pro style game that any NHL coaches/GMs will like.

Low maintenance, meat and potato guy that plays a straight to the point, north south power game, with some offense.

On the other hand, he hasn't much finesse or creativity in his game. But who cares, an NHL team need the kind of player he is.

At his peak, I project him as a 35-45 pts guy if used on a 3rd line/45-55 pts if he's to play on a 2nd line with some 2nd wave PP.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I would suggest the opposite. Dach has a 37.5% success rate on faceoffs while Beck dominated the World Junior Championship and the OHL in this regard. I would put Beck in the center, Dach on the left and Joshua Roy on the right but all that in 2 or 3 years.

It depends if Dach improves with FO in the next 2 years. Apart from FO, I prefer a big center like Dach playing 5v5. But if Beck is so good on FO and defensive style, why not make him PK specialist and regular 3rd C.

 

[MasterD]

Because he wins faceoffs and he's smart.

Evans is actually playing a role above his head, but he's an excellent 4th line center, doing all the "little things right".
And he can move up to a 3rd line in case of injury.


Beck on the other hand, future bottom or middle 6er?

Personally I see him as a quality middle 6, à la Danault.

He's playing a pro style game that any NHL coaches/GMs will like.

Low maintenance, meat and potato guy that plays a straight to the point, north south power game, with some offense.

On the other hand, he hasn't much finesse or creativity in his game. But who cares, an NHL team need the kind of player he is.

At his peak, I project him as a 35-45 pts guy if used on a 3rd line/45-55 pts if he's to play on a 2nd line with some 2nd wave PP.

Sounds about right.

 

[FrankMTL]

I see him as an Anthony Cirelli type player which is very valuable.

 

[Naslundforever]

Because he wins faceoffs and he's smart.

Evans is actually playing a role above his head, but he's an excellent 4th line center, doing all the "little things right".
And he can move up to a 3rd line in case of injury.


Beck on the other hand, future bottom or middle 6er?

Personally I see him as a quality middle 6, à la Danault.

He's playing a pro style game that any NHL coaches/GMs will like.

Low maintenance, meat and potato guy that plays a straight to the point, north south power game, with some offense.

On the other hand, he hasn't much finesse or creativity in his game. But who cares, an NHL team need the kind of player he is.

At his peak, I project him as a 35-45 pts guy if used on a 3rd line/45-55 pts if he's to play on a 2nd line with some 2nd wave PP.

Evans? No, not excellent or even close; as mid a 4th liner as there is. Scores never, not physical, average at the rest. Even the hab pk sucks. Looks like a nice kid.

 

[FrankMTL]

Evans? No, not excellent or even close; as mid a 4th liner as there is. Scores never, not physical, average at the rest. Even the hab pk sucks. Looks like a nice kid.

I agree....I have nothing against Evans, but his talent is clearly limited and he's playing higher than he should be right now.

 

[Team_Spirit]

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I see him as an Anthony Cirelli type player which is very valuable.

Scored another goal tonight and made a great play using his speed and creativity to set up another for Saginaw. This kid has untapped offensive potential and will be far more than just a utility / 3rd or 4th line player in the NHL.

Beck is quickly becoming one of our most important prospects. It would not surprise me at all if he makes the team next fall.

One player that also impressed me tonight was Sudbury's, Kieron Walton. He's 6' 6" and can skate like the wind. He's a player that I would definitely target with the Winnipeg Jets' first round pick we picked up in the Monahan trade. Kid has tremendous potential and showed very well at the CHL Prospects Game. As I posted before, this is a much deeper draft than many are saying. Walton is just one of a number of excellent prospects that should be available at the bottom of the first round of the 2024 draft. That extra first round pick should be jealously guarded and not be seen as a mere throw-in, in an attempt to secure a quick fix.

 

[HuGort]

Scored another goal tonight and made a great play using his speed and creativity to set up another for Saginaw. This kid has untapped offensive potential and will be far more than just a utility / 3rd or 4th line player in the NHL.

Beck is quickly becoming one of our most important prospects. It would not surprise me at all if he makes the team next fall.

One player that also impressed me tonight was Sudbury's, Kieron Walton. He's 6' 6" and can skate like the wind. He's a player that I would definitely target with the Winnipeg Jets' first round pick we picked up in the Monahan trade. Kid has tremendous potential and showed very well at the CHL Prospects Game. As I posted before, this is a much deeper draft than many are saying. Walton is just one of a number of excellent prospects that should be available at the bottom of the first round of the 2024 draft. That extra first round pick should be jealously guarded and not be seen as a mere throw-in, in an attempt to secure a quick fix.

Walton sounds like player we should take deep look at. As big forwards generally take longer to develop. He already had size and speed and so-so hands.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Walton sounds like player we should take deep look at. As big forwards generally take longer to develop. He already had size and speed and so-so hands.

There are several players like Walton, who have considerable upside like Sennecke, Luchanko, Vanacker, Beaudoin, Mustard and Letourneau who should be available in the lower third of the first round of the draft. These are the type of players that you build a team around and the type of players that fans may soon start fawning over.

The price to acquire any young player who has the ability to materially alter the trajectory of this team will be far too high. And as I previously noted, the amount of improvident contracts that the previous administration handed out to increasingly non-productive players continues to act as an impediment to the team's ascendency. I would hang on to our draft choices unless a transaction comes along that offers to make the team materially better at a reasonable cost. We are far from becoming a contending team through the acquisition of any one reasonably (cost-wise) available player.

 

[HuGort]

There are several players like Walton, who have considerable upside like Sennecke, Luchanko, Vanacker, Beaudoin, Mustard and Letourneau who should be available in the lower third of the draft. These are the type of players that you build a team around and the type of players that fans may soon start fawning over. The price to acquire any young player who has the ability to materially alter the trajectory of this team will be far too high. And as I previously noted, the amount of improvident contracts that the previous administration handed out to increasingly non-productive players continues to act as an impediment to the team's ascendency. I would hang on to our draft choices unless a transaction comes along that offers to make the team materially better at a reasonable cost. We are far from becoming a contending team through the acquisition of any one reasonably (cost-wise) available player.

Those bad contracts go us close to Cup though. Price, Gallagher, Anderson , etc... Without going thru 5 year rebuild nor giving up any future. You can't have everything. If you want to be in position for a cup its going to cost you.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Those bad contracts go us close to Cup though. Price, Gallagher, Anderson , etc... Without going thru 5 year rebuild nor giving up any future. You can't have everything. If you want to be in position for a cup its going to cost you.

But that Cup run will always have an asterisk to it. In a normal, non-COVID world, I don't know if we even make the playoffs. There was, and there is no rationalization for tying up almost 10% of our cap to a clearly declining asset like Gallagher. Proving again that dumb always loses.

 

[Deebs]

But that Cup run will always have an asterisk to it. In a normal, non-COVID world, I don't know if we even make the playoffs. There was, and there is no rationalization for tying up almost 10% of our cap to a clearly declining asset like Gallagher. Proving again that dumb always loses.

An asterisk....that's garbage. We won the games we had to when it mattered and made it to the cup.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

An asterisk....that's garbage. We won the games we had to when it mattered and made it to the cup.

If that gives you comfort and pride, then go with it. Since then, our franchise has been irrelevant.

 

[Deebs]

If that gives you comfort and pride, then go with it. Since then, our franchise has been irrelevant.

An asterisk lol

 

[BaseballCoach]

Those bad contracts go us close to Cup though. Price, Gallagher, Anderson , etc... Without going thru 5 year rebuild nor giving up any future. You can't have everything. If you want to be in position for a cup its going to cost you.

No, neither Gallagher nor Tatar contributed much to the Cup run.

 

[windycity]

And as I previously noted, the amount of improvident contracts that the previous administration handed out to increasingly non-productive players continues to act as an impediment to the team's ascendency.

Not gonna lie, I read this sentence in Jackie Chiles' voice

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[MTL Dirty Birdy]

I agree with you. I think he tops out at as a 3rd line center and good on the PK. Unfortunately I don't see high offensive upside with Beck at the NHL level but he should be valuable in his roll.

I understand the Habs not taking another LHD in the draft but Dionicio looked great in this game.

I see a really strong parallel between Beck and Danault s offensive potential. Both skate well, are cerebral and have a great two way game. Beck has a better pro shot imo. If Beck becomes a 50 point two way C that float in the middle six, is a win my books

 

[Garnet76]

I would love for Beck to become Danault but I don't currently see offensive IQ to be a 50-60pt player in the NHL yet. Still young and could develop the skills needed though. I think he's a lock for 30-35pts centering the third line and playing key defensive minutes.

 

[Rapala]

Beck is quickly becoming one of our most important prospects. It would not surprise me at all if he makes the team next fall.

The development team won't bet against him that is a certainty.

 

[le_sean]

I would love for Beck to become Danault but I don't currently see offensive IQ to be a 50-60pt player in the NHL yet. Still young and could develop the skills needed though. I think he's a lock for 30-35pts centering the third line and playing key defensive minutes.

I don’t know, Danault gets by purely on IQ. It’s not like he has a good shot or is a great playmaker, he’s just smart and works hard. Beck has a shot that teams will need to respect.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

No, neither Gallagher nor Tatar contributed much to the Cup run.

Add the fact that the worst part part in term for price- he’s not playing. Gally signed his contract after and has been horrid since day one of that and Anderson since that run has done nothing. The “bad” part of those contracts hadn’t fully affected the Habs yet during that run

 

[BaseballCoach]

I would love for Beck to become Danault but I don't currently see offensive IQ to be a 50-60pt player in the NHL yet. Still young and could develop the skills needed though. I think he's a lock for 30-35pts centering the third line and playing key defensive minutes.

Even 30-35 points at ES will require decent scoring wingers for the third line

 

[tnq]

Walton sounds like player we should take deep look at. As big forwards generally take longer to develop. He already had size and speed and so-so hands.

Anderson v2 ?