Ovechkin scores 2 goals in 30 seconds but nope

[Super Cake]

I didn't see it hit the stick, but it was really hard to tell.

Am totally fine with the ruling on the ice.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

I really think it hit the stick,

but No replay shows enough to prove it.

 

[Ezekial]

Except there is another rule that says you can't close your hand on the puck.... so you actually can't GRAB the puck, and that's good. Shouldn't be able too. But I don't see a problem with knocking or batting a puck TO THE ICE (not directly into the net) and then having it inadvertently bounce into the net because the goalie is out to lunch.

We saw this in the USA game last night, you can't willingly use your body to force the puck toward the net. You can redirect, but not nudge it

 

[Fantomas]

Would have been interesting if the referee called the goal good and then it went to review.

 

[PTmbp13]

In one angle at least i can see it dudnt hit the stick at no time

 

[Derrty]

Doesn't look like it hit anything to me, but what do I know.

I would have liked it to hit his stick though, for what it's worth.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

It's inconclusive, his stick came extremely close to the puck but it's impossible to tell if it touched the puck. Ovechkin tried to sell it, but anyone in his shoes would've tried to sell it to the ref.

 

[TheFinalWord]

Can you imagine if this happened to Toews or Crosby? 100% would have counted. In the same situation, not a goal that makes a game 4 or 5 to nothing.

Good on the refs and the replay people for getting this right I guess.

You know what Ovi would have to do to have this counted? Actually score a legitimate goal. But everyone loves a good conspiracy theory.

 

[tony d]

That was no goal, the right call was made.

 

[psycho_dad*]

If it's not a goal by rule then the rule should be changed. I don't see anything wrong with counting that. If you can steer a puck into the net with your skate then why can't it also hit off you glove?

You can't. It can bounce off your skate or your body when you're not trying to direct it towards the net but just happen to be there, but if there is intent to direct it towards the net it's not a goal.

There's no question whether or not Ovechkin tried to bat the puck down towards the net with his hand. Even if it had went in from Stralman, it should not have counted. Because the initial "shot" was made by hand and that's not accepted.

 

[bottomofthefoodchain]

The rotation factor was real, but it's unknown who caused the puck to do it. Looked to me like it happened passing Ovi's stick but I don't see any possible way they could overturn it. Just like if it was called a goal on the ice.

I was hoping it would be a goal FWIW

The rotation came from Ovi punching the puck. He failed to grab it.

 

[Uncle Rotter]

Would have been interesting if the referee called the goal good and then it went to review.

It probably would have stood. They would have needed conclusive evidence his stick didn't touch the puck.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

You can't. It can bounce off your skate or your body when you're not trying to direct it towards the net but just happen to be there, but if there is intent to direct it towards the net it's not a goal.

There's no question whether or not Ovechkin tried to bat the puck down towards the net with his hand. Even if it had went in from Stralman, it should not have counted. Because the initial "shot" was made by hand and that's not accepted.

Not true. That makes it an own goal. You could kick the puck at someone and if they inadvertently put it in, it's their fault.

 

[57special]

Homer refs sez no to Ovy.

The refs were Swedish?

Clearly Ovi was the one with the best and most unbiased view of things.

 

[VictorLustig]

Not true. That makes it an own goal. You could kick the puck at someone and if they inadvertently put it in, it's their fault.

There is no such thing as an own goal in hockey. Rulebook clearly states it's a no goal even if it hit Strålman.

 

[andrjusha]

OV was not batting or directing puck, he lifted his hand trying to stop it, his hand did not move forward while in contact with puck.
Since he was skating forward the puck naturally bounced towards the net. Anyway I am fine with a call, OV and Russia should have played better in first 59 mins.

You can't. It can bounce off your skate or your body when you're not trying to direct it towards the net but just happen to be there, but if there is intent to direct it towards the net it's not a goal.

There's no question whether or not Ovechkin tried to bat the puck down towards the net with his hand. Even if it had went in from Stralman, it should not have counted. Because the initial "shot" was made by hand and that's not accepted.

 

[DukeDog13]

Not true. That makes it an own goal. You could kick the puck at someone and if they inadvertently put it in, it's their fault.

Nope. Mike Green once kicked it in from the slot on the powerplay. It hit two defensemen before going into the net and they ruled it a no goal because he initiated it with a kick. The other team's players don't factor into the goal - so it would have had to have been marked down as a goal that was...kicked in. Sucks but that's just how they rule it.

 

[robertmac43]

Not a goal. Would have been a good story if the Russian came back and won.

 

[LiveeviL]

Can you imagine if this happened to Toews or Crosby? 100% would have counted. In the same situation, not a goal that makes a game 4 or 5 to nothing.

Good on the refs and the replay people for getting this right I guess.

I can understand your reasoning.
Why should any ref be of the same nationality as the teams who are on the ice?
Why put Canadian refs in a rather awkward position, reffing a Canadian game?

Sure their ethos might be stronger than their feelings as a Canadian. But you know what? We will never know. So it is the best to not having Canadians reffing Canada's games. I do not see this as controversial at all.

 

[psycho_dad*]

Not true. That makes it an own goal. You could kick the puck at someone and if they inadvertently put it in, it's their fault.

Sorry but that is incorrect.

 

[psycho_dad*]

OV was not batting or directing puck, he lifted his hand trying to stop it, his hand did not move forward while in contact with puck.
Since he was skating forward the puck naturally bounced towards the net. Anyway I am fine with a call, OV and Russia should have played better in first 59 mins.

Was his hand on the shaft of his stick, or was it up in the air trying to reach the puck? That's what matters.

He put his hand in the way of the puck, in the offensive zone. If it would have landed on his teammates stick that would have been called off as a hand pass and the faceoff would have been in neutral zone. If his hand delivered puck went in from someone else, that should be called off as no goal since the initial "shot" was done intentionally with a hand that's not an acceptable way of shooting.

 

[masa2009]

I think it hit the stick, it's a close call but the puck seemed to flip differently after its trajectory meets that of the stick.

 

[Ducksforcup]

Have to agree with the interpretation of the official. Ovie clearly hit the puck with his glove and at best it's inconclusive whether he hit it with his stick or not afterwards.

 

[Brun0]

still hard to see from this angle

there it is, slow down and zoom


wow it touched.




thats a scandal

 

[bDtKarlsson]

there it is, slow down and zoom

wow it touched.

thats a scandal

Looks like it hits Strålmans stick? But I'm watching it on my phone so it's hard to tell.