Ovechkin milestone thread - 850 and Beyond!

[The Gr8 Dane]

That same guy accused Ovechkin of juicing.

So what? Even if he was on the juice so would everybody else be so who cares lol
As if Sid wasn't on the juice from all his injury recoveries and ovi was yeah ok

 

[TheBeard]

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. I don’t know how anyone can hate Ovi for his contributions to the game.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Because i wouldnt put Hull in my top 5, hes top 10 for me

but his son was better

I need to a top ten list

His son is definitely not better, even Brett said so.
Did Brett win 8 Rocket Richards, no.
and then Bobby jumped to WHA at 31 or 32.

Saying the above does put you in the lose column you talked about.

 

[Foots]

So what? Even if he was on the juice so would everybody else be so who cares lol
As if Sid wasn't on the juice from all his injury recoveries and ovi was yeah ok

Juice causes strokes

 

[EpochLink]

I saw Gretzky score his 800th goal, never thought I’d see another..until now.

Amazing.

 

[zappa4ever]

a little then vs. now (1 season vs. the last 13 seasons) visual aid for those who may not be aware how common it used to be to get 50g, or 100a, or 125 pts

 

[WarriorofTime]

Because i wouldnt put Hull in my top 5, hes top 10 for me

but his son was better

I need to a top ten list

your list is terrible lol

 

[Hanji]

So what? Even if he was on the juice so would everybody else be so who cares lol
As if Sid wasn't on the juice from all his injury recoveries and ovi was yeah ok

This.

A telltale sign of roid use is abnormally fast injury recovery time. How often do we see this in the NHL, or in sports in general? All the freakin' time.

 

[Frosty415]

exactly. Gretzky was the best player in the NHL for how many seasons? OV was the best for what 1 maybe 2 seasons?

He dominated scoring more than Gretzky ever has.

Gretzky was a better and more complete player.

 

[DaGreatOne]

He dominated scoring more than Gretzky ever has.

Gretzky was a better and more complete player.

He dominated scoring GOALS, not scoring.

 

[SensFan4lyfe]

He dominated scoring more than Gretzky ever has.

Gretzky was a better and more complete player.

WHAT lol

your saying OVIE dominated more than a guy who scored 200 points 5 TIMES???????????

LOL

Gretzky didnt just score goals he created them

THAT IS the dumbest thing ive ever seen posted on this forum lol

 

[Voight]

Here's a look at some of the most important dates in Ovechkin's career (From NHL.com)
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I feel like a lot of people don't realize we witnessing a historic feat/player right before our eyes.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

WHAT lol

your saying OVIE dominated more than a guy who scored 200 points 5 TIMES???????????

LOL

Gretzky didnt just score goals he created them

THAT IS the dumbest thing ive ever seen posted on this forum lol

Tell me you joined last month without telling me you joined last month.

Ovie has been unreal, unequivocally the best goal scorer of all time.

 

[Demandedace]

THAT IS the dumbest thing ive ever seen posted on this forum lol

You should read some of your own comments in this thread in that case

 

[Unbiased Fan]

If you put Ovie in his prime in 1991 wearing his modern day gear and using his workout regime/Supplements he’d be putting up 120 goals per season. Looks like players skated like slugs back then and there shots looked really slow.

 

[Daximus]

WHAT lol

your saying OVIE dominated more than a guy who scored 200 points 5 TIMES???????????

LOL

Gretzky didnt just score goals he created them

THAT IS the dumbest thing ive ever seen posted on this forum lol

The fact he's lead the league in goals more than anyone else is a testament to the fact he has dominated goal scoring more than anyone ever has.

No one is saying he's a better overall player than Gretz. But there is 100% an argument he dominated goal scoring for a longer period of time.

 

[SensFan4lyfe]

Tell me you joined last month without telling me you joined last month.

Ovie has been unreal, unequivocally the best goal scorer of all time.

I've been on these forums since 2004

 

[SettlementRichie10]

If you put Ovie in his prime in 1991 wearing his modern day gear and using his workout regime/Supplements he’d be putting up 120 goals per season. Looks like players skated like slugs back then and there shots looked really slow.

Next you’re gonna tell us that a 2022 Ferrari is going to win a drag race in 1910.

Truly the stunning insight we all come to HF for.

 

[andrjusha]

If you put Ovie in his prime in 1991 wearing his modern day gear and using his workout regime/Supplements he’d be putting up 120 goals per season. Looks like players skated like slugs back then and there shots looked really slow.

Supplements?
I am pretty sure beer, coca-cola, subway sandwiches and chicken parm existed back in 1991

Alex Ovechkin’s eats chicken parm from Mamma Lucia before every home game. Brooks Orpik finds his diet ‘borderline inspiring.’

In a new Players’ Tribune article, Brooks Orpik described the differences between playing with Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin. Orpik made it…

russianmachineneverbreaks.com

Alex Ovechkin’s ‘special diet’ includes a footlong spicy Italian from Subway: ‘It’s one of the secrets’

Alex Ovechkin is on pace to score 50 goals and go over the century mark in points for the first time since…

russianmachineneverbreaks.com

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Next you’re gonna tell us that a 2022 Ferrari is going to win a drag race in 1910.

Truly the stunning insight we all come to HF for.

Are you saying it wouldn’t?

 

[Randyne]

WHAT lol

your saying OVIE dominated more than a guy who scored 200 points 5 TIMES???????????

LOL

Why are you yelling?
Entire discussion was about goalscoring and then you with your pengwin friend turn it to assists without any reason.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Supplements?
I am pretty sure beer, coca-cola, subway sandwiches and chicken parm existed back in 1991

Alex Ovechkin’s eats chicken parm from Mamma Lucia before every home game. Brooks Orpik finds his diet ‘borderline inspiring.’

In a new Players’ Tribune article, Brooks Orpik described the differences between playing with Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin. Orpik made it…

russianmachineneverbreaks.com

Alex Ovechkin’s ‘special diet’ includes a footlong spicy Italian from Subway: ‘It’s one of the secrets’

Alex Ovechkin is on pace to score 50 goals and go over the century mark in points for the first time since…

russianmachineneverbreaks.com

I’m sure he takes other things like testosterone that help balance the negative side effects of that. I feel like everyone is on steroids.

 

[User9992]

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Are you saying it wouldn’t?

Of course modern Ovechkin would dominate 90s NHL. This is like saying the modern American military would dominate Alexander the Great.

It’s an absurd, obvious observation.

What’s equally absurd is the crowd who claims that athletes in Gretzky’s era wouldn’t respond just as well to modern training/diet/equipment. Mario Lemieux was a f***ing tank. Give him all the amenities of modern players and he would be posting Mcdavid numbers if not higher. Gretzky had to play in a much, MUCH more physical era. Give him the equipment and open ice of the modern NHL, and he’d probably score 200 points again.

This “adjusted for era” comparison is not the one way street people think it is.

 

[AD1066]

Of course modern Ovechkin would dominate 90s NHL. This is like saying the modern American military would dominate Alexander the Great.

It’s an absurd, obvious observation.

What’s equally absurd is the crowd who claims that athletes in Gretzky’s era wouldn’t respond just as well to modern training/diet/equipment. Mario Lemieux was a f***ing tank. Give him all the amenities of modern players and he would be posting Mcdavid numbers if not higher. Gretzky had to play in a much, MUCH more physical era. Give him the equipment and open ice of the modern NHL, and he’d probably score 200 points again.

This “adjusted for era” comparison is not the one way street people think it is.

I get your overall point, but disagree with the last part. The physicality, wooden sticks, etc. are already baked into the numbers for that era. What we see is that in spite of these things, over a sample of thousands of games and tens of thousands of goals, overall scoring was more than 30% higher back then. Whatever disadvantages those skaters had compared to the current era were outweighed by how much worse goaltending was back then. The puck went in the net more often back then, in spite of whatever factors were working against skaters, and there's not much reason to believe Gretzky could score 200 points today. He'd still be the GOAT, though.