HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: 2024 Playoff Edition

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Whitesnake

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Be nice if we could sticky these details at the top of every thread referencing Barron or Harris lol
Yeah, well that type of player will never happen for a team. Or rarely. Teams have greater chance at picking them on waivers than drafting them. 7 years past draft day...that means what 2 contracts before you see improvement? Chances are a 3rd contract isn't coming. Then change of scenery and the rest is history.
 
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Miller Time

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Yeah, well that type of player will never happen for a team. Or rarely. Teams have greater chance at picking them on waivers than drafting them. 7 years past draft day...that means what 2 contracts before you see improvement? Chances are a 3rd contract isn't coming. Then change of scenery and the rest is history.
Sure... The point is more that it's a bit silly how sure some posters are that Harris or Barron will never be top 4 regulars, let alone top pairing dmen, based on their performance thus far at 22-23.

Both are more established/proven than Forling than Forling was at the same age.

Actual development curves are far different than what some seem to expect. Forling is an outlier in terms of how good he's become, but an NHL dman hitting his stride btw 25-30 is pretty par for the course.

& "Never"?
Rivet didn't become a regular until ~25, and a top -4 player until 27-28.

Bouillon had an outlier full season in his rookie year, then was up and down to the AHL until becoming an NHL regular after 25

Giordano didn't play a full season for the flames until age 26, won a Norris with them at 34....

Never say never ;)
 
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MarkovsKnee

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Back to back Stanley Cup final appearances for Florida. They were the better team. It would have been a sweep without Shesterkin.

Trouba was just terrible on the 1st goal. Miller was awful on the 2nd goal. Fox is the only puck mover on that D & he is obviously injured.

I'm okay with trading Harris, but not for peanuts. You need guys who can move the puck & skate. He can do both. Let's not under value our young D.

Florida seems healthier than last year when they made the cup final. Bobrovsky is giving them good goaltending. We'll see what happens, but they have to be the favorites.
 

Miller Time

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Back to back Stanley Cup final appearances for Florida. They were the better team. It would have been a sweep without Shesterkin.

Trouba was just terrible on the 1st goal. Miller was awful on the 2nd goal. Fox is the only puck mover on that D & he is obviously injured.

I'm okay with trading Harris, but not for peanuts. You need guys who can move the puck & skate. He can do both. Let's not under value our young D.

Florida seems healthier than last year when they made the cup final. Bobrovsky is giving them good goaltending. We'll see what happens, but they have to be the favorites.

I don't particularly dislike the Rangers... But I'm happy to see Trouba costing them heavily. Dirtbag players getting exposed is always enjoyable
 

MarkovsKnee

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We know what that means. Copycat teams are taking notes for roster building purposes.

Yeah, just need to draft Barkov, steal a Tkachuk & Bennett type player from an idiot Western Conference team and we should be good to go. Lol

Oh and grab a 57 goal scorer from Buffalo. Maybe Cozens is available?

G.M. has done a great job at grabbing quality guys out of bad organizations.
 

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Yeah, just need to draft Barkov, steal a Tkachuk & Bennett type player from an idiot Western Conference team and we should be good to go. Lol

Oh and grab a 57 goal scorer from Buffalo. Maybe Cozens is available?

G.M. has done a great job at grabbing quality guys out of bad organizations.
Well not exactly that, obviously, but there are elements of roster construction overall that will become guiding principles in terms of which attributes a team may put more emphasis upon.
 
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Yeah, just need to draft Barkov, steal a Tkachuk & Bennett type player from an idiot Western Conference team and we should be good to go. Lol

Oh and grab a 57 goal scorer from Buffalo. Maybe Cozens is available?

G.M. has done a great job at grabbing quality guys out of bad organizations.
Add signing for free a 70 pts player like Carter Verhaeghe....
 

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Add signing for free a 70 pts player like Carter Verhaeghe....
Montour for a 3rd rounder at deadline, Forsling from waivers day before start of season

Well not exactly that, obviously, but there are elements of roster construction overall that will become guiding principles in terms of which attributes a team may put more emphasis upon.
McGuire had the best take IMO, GM Zito’s strategy was to build a roster that was ready for street fights
 

McGees

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Yeah, just need to draft Barkov, steal a Tkachuk & Bennett type player from an idiot Western Conference team and we should be good to go. Lol

Oh and grab a 57 goal scorer from Buffalo. Maybe Cozens is available?

G.M. has done a great job at grabbing quality guys out of bad organizations.
And make QC tax free…maybe add a couple beaches.
 

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McGuire had the best take IMO, GM Zito’s strategy was to build a roster that was ready for street fights
The irony is none of them fight. They just pound your body the entire game, throw several hits that are right on the edge of legal/illegal, get in your face and taunt you about it while they possess the puck most of the game.

They are one tough team to play against. And they have lots of skill and a great goalie. Terrific recipe for playoff success.
 

salbutera

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The irony is none of them fight. They just pound your body the entire game, throw several hits that are right on the edge of legal/illegal, get in your face and taunt you about it while they possess the puck most of the game.

They are one tough team to play against. And they have lots of skill and a great goalie. Terrific recipe for playoff success.
Remember when Bob was a “terrible UFA signing”?
 
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Predicted Florida would have eliminated NY in 4 games. Only reason it took 6 games is because of Igor Shesterkin.

Insane that since 2020 a Florida team has always been in the finals. They have been dominating this decade.
 
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It sure feels like this could be the Panthers year, as beating them 4 times is going to be a real tall order for any team. They're really built for playoff hockey and the entire roster has bought into the system. Add a very hot goalie and you've got a heck of a winning formula.
 
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This dude has more bad takes than anyone. People still reference his work for some reason and he's employed still.
 
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