HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: 2024-2025 season

sandviper

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The “problem” is that Philly’s guy will likely be better than ours - only time will tell but I think that’s a safe bet - and people aren’t bashing DR - not his fault that HuGo likely screwed up the pick - they’re upset with HuGo . . . everyone makes mistakes . . . but this could be a costly one. Mich and Demi could have been our Connor and Leon, Patrick and Jonathan, Sid and Geno . . . you get the point.
I do get it. Certainly if Reinbacher doesn’t hit as a top-4, it’s going to sting. However, the sting I’m not overly concerned at this time. I’m not blind… if Michkov becomes a superstar, that is also going to sting, but we got to hope our guys like Demidov, Slaf, CC, Hutson, Guhle and so on continue their path and we become legit. I mean, Florida and Vegas didn’t necessarily win with their own versions of Batman and Robin.

Sure, Michkov and Demidov back to back would had been sweet but I don’t think it’s going to be too painful for us provided the team continues to get better and our own potential stars hit.
 

ReHabs

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I never mentioned Reinbacher, I was responding directly to your post asking for a citation. This is also typical of you where you demand facts but can’t provide any yourself. You can’t prove he didn’t snub the Habs.
Of course I have facts on my side:
1. The Habs drafted Reinbacher when Michkov was available.
2. The Habs met with Michkov at least once pre-draft.

There is no need to peddle in conspiracies and cope. Try it, you'll see it feels better.
But since you had to bring up his name, end of the day, whether Michkov forced his way on to Philly or Habs preferred Reinbacher, doesn’t matter because both teams will never reveal it now that they got their players. Hence, the pre-draft reports are all we have.
But it does matter to you guys who have to develop complicated conspiracies to justify something that doesn't need it.

Also, since I know you’re typically set on one train of thought on like every hockey subject, let me close by saying it is PLAUSIBLE that Michkov only wanted to play for Philly (as opposed to MTL and ARI) and Montreal preferred Reinbacher.
It's certainly plausible that a player could prefer to play somewhere but prospects don't have that luxury and cannot choose where or when they're picked. It is a draft, they don't own their own registration rights... It simply does not happen.

YOU develop a complicated conspiracy that has no basis in reality -- the last time this has plausibly happened was Jagr's draft over three decades ago - do you people not ever reflect on how unlikely it is your cockamamie conspiracy could ever be right?

No, I don't think you ever reflect on how strange it is the things you believe.

I don't even think you people believe this, you just want to muddy the waters to cope when you don't even need to do that. Accept the simple facts: The Habs could've drafted Michkov but preferred Reinbacher. If you like how the Habs have been run you wouldn't have ANY problem with this decision, not so soon after the draft anyway.


Summary is simple: Either 1) The Habs preferred Reinbacher to Michkov Or 2) The Habs preferred Michkov but only "settled" for Reinbacher out of desperation. It's incredibly pathetic to believe in the latter condition and shows no faith in Reinbacher.
 

HuGort

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I do get it. Certainly if Reinbacher doesn’t hit as a top-4, it’s going to sting. However, the sting I’m not overly concerned at this time. I’m not blind… if Michkov becomes a superstar, that is also going to sting, but we got to hope our guys like Demidov, Slaf, CC, Hutson, Guhle and so on continue their path and we become legit. I mean, Florida and Vegas didn’t necessarily win with their own versions of Batman and Robin.

Sure, Michkov and Demidov back to back would had been sweet but I don’t think it’s going to be too painful for us provided the team continues to get better and our own potential stars hit.
Collosal mistake not taking Michkov. Up there with Roy trade or passing of Mike Bossy. I don't know whatever happened to Hughes there.

You watch Flyer game other night? Can see he rikes skill from 100 miles away. Michkov shot from half board. Not many in NHL has shot like that. Then On disputed goal he was a bulldog. But probably shouldn't have counted
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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I do get it. Certainly if Reinbacher doesn’t hit as a top-4, it’s going to sting. However, the sting I’m not overly concerned at this time. I’m not blind… if Michkov becomes a superstar, that is also going to sting, but we got to hope our guys like Demidov, Slaf, CC, Hutson, Guhle and so on continue their path and we become legit. I mean, Florida and Vegas didn’t necessarily win with their own versions of Batman and Robin.

Sure, Michkov and Demidov back to back would had been sweet but I don’t think it’s going to be too painful for us provided the team continues to get better and our own potential stars hit.
Michkov becoming a superstar matters little if RB pans out for us. At the end of the day we’re trying to build the best team. If you just get skilled players you wind up like the Leafs on the road to nowheresville.

We also wound up with a similar player profile in Demidov.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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Collosal mistake not taking Michkov. Up there with Roy trade or passing of Mike Bossy. I don't know whatever happened to Hughes there.

You watch Flyer game other night? Can see he rikes skill from 100 miles away. Michkov shot from half board. Not many in NHL has shot like that. Then On disputed goal he was a bulldog. But probably shouldn't have counted
We know Michkov didn’t want to go to certain teams. It’s certainly not a stretch to think this factored into Montreal’s decision. There’s nothing conspiratorial about that.

I also highly doubt that players haven’t manipulated the draft since Jaromir Jagr.
 

Andy

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I've been looking at the Pens draft history and I am amazed by how much success they have had by essentially hitting on Crosby, Malkin, Letang (you can probably count Fleury and Staal as well).

The only real notable draft picks after them are Guentzel and Rust.

Amazing how much three elite players can carry a team for so long.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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I've been looking at the Pens draft history and I am amazed by how much success they have had by essentially hitting on Crosby, Malkin, Letang (you can probably count Fleury and Staal as well).

The only real notable draft picks after them are Guentzel and Rust.

Amazing how much three elite players can carry a team for so long.
Adding Kessel was huge for them too. Honestly, he probably deserved a Smythe in the first cup drive he had with them.
 

yianik

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I do get it. Certainly if Reinbacher doesn’t hit as a top-4, it’s going to sting. However, the sting I’m not overly concerned at this time. I’m not blind… if Michkov becomes a superstar, that is also going to sting, but we got to hope our guys like Demidov, Slaf, CC, Hutson, Guhle and so on continue their path and we become legit. I mean, Florida and Vegas didn’t necessarily win with their own versions of Batman and Robin.

Sure, Michkov and Demidov back to back would had been sweet but I don’t think it’s going to be too painful for us provided the team continues to get better and our own potential stars hit.
Unfortunately teams miss on big prizes. Look at the Rangers. They whiffed on Kakko, Lias Andersson, Kravtsov , all of which were top 10 picks. But they got Miller, killed it on getting Shesterkin, great trade in Zibanejed, and as a Destination team rounded up desirable UFAs. But lots of top 10 misses.

In contrast the Leafs have nailed it in the Drafts to assemble their core, but have failed elsewhere.

So there will be misses, but you need to hit on a combination of picks, trades and signings. We are real close though on having the key spots filled in. A no.1D to replace Matheson is the most glaring spot right now, and Reinbacher the best hope there.
 

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