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HF Habs: Out Of Town Thread: 2023-2024 season

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LaP said:
That's actually a very good defense. Wingers are fine. Would need a center line and a goalie to replace Price no doubt. You could solve that by trading the 3rd overall pick for a center instead of taking JK. If you add the Patch for Suzuki trade that's potentially a very good team.

Slafkovski - Suzuki - Caufield
Lehkonen - Trade 3rd overall for a center - Roy
UFA - Beck - Gallagher
Pezzetta - McCarron - Evans
Poehling - Ylonen

Sergachev - McDO
Guhle - Mailloux/Reinbacher
Struble - Romanov
Harris - Juulsen

UFA
Primeau
Dobes
Fucale
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I was going for one time players and none current.

Choice of Perry,Drouin,Tattar,Poehling,Mc carron,KK,Hoffman,Dadinov,Monahan,Toffoli,Domi,Patches,Lekonen,Daneault,Gurionov

Petry,chiarot,Sergacev,Mc donough,Edmusnton,Romanov,Juulsen,Kulak

Allen,Lindgren

could be more out there

Don't know how good or bad this roster would be,but they wouldn't get bullied about that's for sure.
 
LaP said:
That's actually a very good defense. Wingers are fine. Would need a center line and a goalie to replace Price no doubt. You could solve that by trading the 3rd overall pick for a center instead of taking JK. If you add the Patch for Suzuki trade that's potentially a very good team.

Slafkovski - Suzuki - Caufield
Lehkonen - Trade 3rd overall for a center - Roy
UFA - Beck - Gallagher
Pezzetta - McCarron - Evans
Poehling - Ylonen

Sergachev - McDO
Guhle - Mailloux/Reinbacher
Struble - Romanov
Harris - Juulsen

UFA
Primeau
Dobes
Fucale
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rik schau said:
I was going for one time players and none current.

Choice of Perry,Drouin,Tattar,Poehling,Mc carron,KK,Hoffman,Dadinov,Monahan,Toffoli,Domi,Patches,Lekonen,Daneault,Gurionov

Petry,chiarot,Sergacev,Mc donough,Edmusnton,Romanov,Juulsen,Kulak

Allen,Lindgren

could be more out there

Don't know how good or bad this roster would be,but they wouldn't get bullied about that's for sure.
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OK. I thought it was one of those discussion about how bad we drafted. I think the lineup i posted kind on debunk that. I mean a lineup made of only players we drafted along with the Patch to Suzuki trade (trade involving a player we drafted) and a 3rd overall to 2nd line center trade (not an unfair thing to consider) would actually be a good lineup. Not a contending one but one that would certainly be at minimum as good as what we have atm.

So for me the whole we did not draft well excuse doesn't hold up. We are where we are because of bad management decisions mostly. Trading young players for not much before their reach their full potential (Sergachev and McDO). Not developping depth (MacCarron). Overrealiance on over the hill vets. Etc ...
 
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Whitesnake said:
Depending of their BPA. It was always about that. It's not about what me, you or any other think who the BPA is. It,s about who the TEAM thinks it is. And they TELL us that he is. That they tell us that he is their best player no matter the position. Something that wasn't done for Reinbacher.

Mind you...for every person who believe development is at least just as important as picking...I will always wonder why we could easily question Galchy development.....KK development....and everybody Timmins picked.....but NOT do it with other players from other teams. Any word on Zadina's development?

I mean...Grant did tell us 4 months before draft day that Zadina would be a SUREFIRE 40-goal scorer in the NHL.
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You can always question the development of other teams. But it important to remember that this is the Habs board and the discussion will be Montreal centric.

Nobody is going to disagree with you though if you want to argue that say… New York didn’t develop their guys well.

As for KK, development or not, it’s pretty clear that we should’ve taken Brady Tkachuk. :laugh:

Personally I liked the idea of us getting a big center. We hoped that it would be an another Kopitar. But I don’t think we developed him well either. Then he goes to Carolina, seems to get every opportunity and is really inconsistent. So honestly, who knows? He was seen as a bit of a reach on draft day and it’s pretty clear he was the wrong pick.

As for pick vs development, I think most would agree the pick is most important. But if you have terrible development, you can mitigate a great pick. On the flipside, the best development in the world won’t turn a mid rounder into Mario Lemieux.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
You can always question the development of other teams. But it important to remember that this is the Habs board and the discussion will be Montreal centric.

Nobody is going to disagree with you though if you want to argue that say… New York didn’t develop their guys well.

As for KK, development or not, it’s pretty clear that we should’ve taken Brady Tkachuk. :laugh:

Personally I liked the idea of us getting a big center. We hoped that it would be an another Kopitar. But I don’t think we developed him well either. Then he goes to Carolina, seems to get every opportunity and is really inconsistent. So honestly, who knows? He was seen as a bit of a reach on draft day and it’s pretty clear he was the wrong pick.

As for pick vs development, I think most would agree the pick is most important. But if you have terrible development, you can mitigate a great pick. On the flipside, the best development in the world won’t turn a mid rounder into Mario Lemieux.
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No doubt. But when I read people laughing at a Zadina pick while being HUGE advocate for development....I just wonder why they don't use that kinda of logic for everybody.
 
Lmao. The Devils dealt Toffoli knowing their season was toast, but decided to possibly obliterate Jack's offseason program by running him into the ground with 4 or 5 games to go.
 
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Redux91 said:
Ovechkin with his 30th

How does he do it man..
40 games in this year the record started looking IFFY
Now it's back to full on freight train towards it lol, lfg
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He had the same thing going on as CC. Super low shooting percentage. Then it normalized and he’s salvaged the year.
 
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