Friedman: Ottawa in on every conversation with a goalie + Toronto interested in Markstrom

[Bond]

That’s terrible for Calgary.

Trading our best player (Weegar), a starting goalie on a good contract and taking a 20 million dollar dump for the 7th?

Switch Weegar to Mangiapane (50%) or Pelletier and then it makes sense.

I don’t think Markstrom has 10th overall value and he is on a fair contract, I don’t see it as good. I view it as a late 1st and a mid round 1st in Weegar.

 

[Petes2424]

The Sens will always be more effected by no-movement and no-trade clauses than let’s say a Detroit, or even a Buffalo within the Atlantic. Both of whom are also likely in the market for an upgrade in net. Markstrom for example, is much more likely to accept a trade to Detroit. Same with Jarry in all likelihood with his 12 team list.

So we have to always keep that in mind too.

 

[Forge]

I still think he's a devil.

Elliott was doing his Elliott thing. "I wonder about Ottawa and Toronto". And he even said he wasn't sure how Markstrom would feel about Ottawa.

Feels like Toronto absolutely has to put up 23 for Markstrom, I don't know how else that gets done. They have no second or third this year or next, they have no 25 first and they aren't putting Cowan on the table. I don't know their prospect pool or anything, so maybe they have enough there to just put it together with prospects and no real picks?

Forsberg would definitely be a buy out candidate with just one year left if Ottawa wanted to free up a space and a little money. Maybe Korpi too, but 8 years on the books is a long stretch. I can't imagine that type of buyout has been done a lot in the past.

Not sure how flexible Ottawa's cap situation is, so I don't know if that would be an issue or not. Obviously they have the ammo to make it work, so at that point it's likely about whether Markstrom will go there.

 

[vtdevils2k]

I still think he's a devil.

Elliott was doing his Elliott thing. "I wonder about Ottawa and Toronto". And he even said he wasn't sure how Markstrom would feel about Ottawa.

Feels like Toronto absolutely has to put up 23 for Markstrom, I don't know how else that gets done. They have no second or third this year or next, they have no 25 first and they aren't putting Cowan on the table. I don't know their prospect pool or anything, so maybe they have enough there to just put it together with prospects and no real picks?

Forsberg would definitely be a buy out candidate with just one year left if Ottawa wanted to free up a space and a little money. Maybe Korpi too, but 8 years on the books is a long stretch. I can't imagine that type of buyout has been done a lot in the past.

Not sure how flexible Ottawa's cap situation is, so I don't know if that would be an issue or not. Obviously they have the ammo to make it work, so at that point it's likely about whether Markstrom will go there.

Hes a devil but not for 10 straight up....gonna be other parts.

 

[Forge]

Hes a devil but not for 10 straight up....gonna be other parts.

I think it's unlikely to include 10 at all. I think more likely it involves a 2025 protected first.

There are ways to make 10 work value wise, just don't think it's going to happen.

 

[Bond]

Hes a devil but not for 10 straight up....gonna be other parts.

I’m a Flames fan and I’ll be shocked if the 10th is involved at all. Maybe a pick swap and retention would get it done. Maybe Coleman or Pospisil have enough value as well.
25 1st makes the most sense. Don’t think there would be retention with it though.

 

[JKG33]

If a Markstrom trade to Ottawa, one has to presume Korpisalo would have to be sent to Calgary in return. An upgrade move by Ottawa would have to include a 1st (#25) and another roster player (or a class A prospect) I would think.

I am not sure that Calgary would want Korpisalo though so the idea of a trade with Ottawa won't have the legs that a New Jersey rumour might have. Unless the added roster or prospect is better than what Jersey might want to part with.

Korpisalo + Boston's 1st or Ottawa's 2nd for Binnington?

Markstrom and Binnington are both worth roughly Boston's 1st alone. Adding on Korpisalo's negative value contract would require another asset worth at least Boston's 1st

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Markstrom and Binnington are both worth roughly Boston's 1st alone. Adding on Korpisalo's negative value contract would require another asset worth at least Boston's 1st

Korpisalo can bounce back to the way he was playing with the Kings and your point wouldn't hold up.
One poor season doesn't crash his value that much.
Small add like Brannstrom's rights or a B-prospect like Crookshank can be thrown in, if you insist.

 

[JKG33]

Korpisalo can bounce back to the way he was playing with the Kings and your point wouldn't hold up.
One poor season doesn't crash his value that much.
Small add like Brannstrom's rights or a B-prospect like Crookshank can be thrown in, if you insist.

Korpisalo wasn't great on the Kings either.

If you think he might bounce back the Sens might as well keep him then. No team is going to be stupid enough to take that gamble (at least since Dubas already has one well paid goalie).

But if the Sens genuinely thought he could bounce back, we wouldn't be having these goalie conversations in the first place

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

Markstrom would solve A LOT

no he wouldnt? hes ass every other year and is old now.

 

[Forge]

I’m a Flames fan and I’ll be shocked if the 10th is involved at all. Maybe a pick swap and retention would get it done. Maybe Coleman or Pospisil have enough value as well.
25 1st makes the most sense. Don’t think there would be retention with it though.

If there is retention, it would be nominal. Like 850K each year lol. And the devils would kick in a sweetener for it, I'm sure.

People are very binary in their retention trade proposals. For whatever reason, it's always 50% or nothing lol. Calgary isn't going to retain 50% for multiple years. How many times has that been done? Honestly, may be easier for the devils to just send back someone like Nate Bastian as part of the deal. He's just a throw in that frees up 1.35M for the devils for a year and gives the Flames a body for the year.

I think a 25 1st + marginal upside prospect probably gets this done.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

no he wouldnt? hes ass every other year and is old now.

I don't care about his age he can stop pucks.

 

[AvatarAang]

Wait....you're telling me Toronto is interested in an available name? Alert the press.

Wait…you’re telling me OP mentioned 3 different NHL teams (NJ, Toronto, and Ottawa), and also referenced Markstrom (CGY)…and yet your post only mentions Toronto?

There is no need to alert the press, they already know that people like you are obsessed with Toronto.

 

[HuGort]

I have to assume it's Korpisalo + pick for new goalie. Some team wanting to send a goalie out, get a fill in, and get value back.

If they are interested in Jarry from Pittsburgh, there may be something workable there. Might be as easy as Jarry for Korpi+2nd.

Would Ottawa move the 7th in this deal?

 

[FLAMESFAN]

If there is retention, it would be nominal. Like 850K each year lol. And the devils would kick in a sweetener for it, I'm sure.

People are very binary in their retention trade proposals. For whatever reason, it's always 50% or nothing lol. Calgary isn't going to retain 50% for multiple years. How many times has that been done? Honestly, may be easier for the devils to just send back someone like Nate Bastian as part of the deal. He's just a throw in that frees up 1.35M for the devils for a year and gives the Flames a body for the year.

I think a 25 1st + marginal upside prospect probably gets this done.

That is likely what NJ is pushing, but if Tor dangles their 1st this year, I think that is the better offer.
And at this point I'd rather see him in Toronto.

 

[Menzinger]

I wouldn't put it passed Tre, but it be an awful move for the Leafs unless 50% retention was involved or close too it.

Mirtle has said.hes heard the Leafs are.focusing on a cheaper tandem approach anyways

 

[AcerComputer]

Markstrom is a legit #1.... Toronto doesn't have one.

TOR has other needs and they can risk running with Woll + ufa-type in a tadem this year to save cap space.

 

[MCR74]

TOR has other needs and they can risk running with Woll this year to save cap space.

I'd rather they see what Woll can do with a full season.

 

[Forge]

That is likely what NJ is pushing, but if Tor dangles their 1st this year, I think that is the better offer.
And at this point I'd rather see him in Toronto.

If Toronto puts 23 on the table, they would probably secure him (assuming Markstrom is willing to waive to go there). Will they put that pick on the table? I have no idea. I'm a little skeptical, but obviously I've seen several of their fans be okay with it.

But 0 picks in the first three rounds of two straight drafts is rough which is where they will be if they move pick 23.

 

[Haatley]

TOR has other needs and they can risk running with Woll + ufa-type in a tadem this year to save cap space.

You mean keep doing what they've been doing? Cause it's been so successful to run with 2 mediocre goalies?

 

[thefutures]

Markstrom 2 x 6m is very reasonable someone will value that more than anything on the FA market. Could be a bidding war

 

[Budz]

Toronto’s 1rst and Liljegren for Markstrom.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Speculating on Markstrom and the obvious connection to New Jersey, but also brought up Toronto and Ottawa, who's calling on any goalie that might be available.

Also, apologies to the mods if I'm making too many threads.

Leaf Fans:

 

[Leaf Fans]

Wait....you're telling me Toronto is interested in an available name? Alert the press.

It was the press that alerted the OP.

 

[Leaf Fans]

If Toronto puts 23 on the table, they would probably secure him (assuming Markstrom is willing to waive to go there). Will they put that pick on the table? I have no idea. I'm a little skeptical, but obviously I've seen several of their fans be okay with it.

But 0 picks in the first three rounds of two straight drafts is rough which is where they will be if they move pick 23.

Toronto had a first round pick last year - Cowan.