OT: Ottawa Fury Thread

[FuriousSenator]

Bizarre

 

[mianjo]

‏@chrishofley

#FuryFC's Oliver attacked by passenger on plane who tried to strangle him from behind with a cord. No injuries. Man arrested.
CBC reporting a #FuryFC player attacked by another passenger on flight from Toronto to Atlanta. No injuries reported, passenger stepped in.

Colin Falvey @falvey32 · 57 minutes ago

Still in shock!! That was unreal!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...player-attacked-on-plane-coach-says-1.3028921

 

[mianjo]

Maybe someone should tell CBC Ottawa this is not Fury's first game.

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/Ottawa/ID/2663436477/

 

[pepty]

http://ottawacitizen.com/sports/soc...natel-attacked-on-flight-to-atlanta-team-says
That is weird,poor guy...

 

[FuriousSenator]

Maybe someone should tell CBC Ottawa this is not Fury's first game.

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/Ottawa/ID/2663436477/

Media coverage of the team for the most part is piss poor. Straight up ignorance in most cases. People in Canada just don't really understand soccer.

 

[jason2020]

Media coverage of the team for the most part is piss poor. Straight up ignorance in most cases. People in Canada just don't really understand soccer.

Take the womens world cup one report said Tooronto,Calgary,Vancouver,Montreal were the hosts.

 

[BonkTastic]

Media coverage of the team for the most part is piss poor. Straight up ignorance in most cases. People in Canada just don't really understand soccer.

People in Canada UNDERSTAND soccer. We all have played it at some point. Everyone I know played soccer as a kid. We all did it every single year in gym classes across the country.

We just don't care. At least, not until very, very recently.


Not trying to throw Soccer under the bus here either, just stating facts. It's a summer sport that needs a dry field to play on - that describes maybe 1/4 of our total Canadian climate calendar. It's hard to get really into a sport that has a limited window of opportunity like that. Baseball always got a pass because you really don't NEED to run as much in baseball, so bad weather/wet fields didn't have quite the same impact. Football almost glorifies "mudbowls" and "icebowls" - playing through inclement weather is a badge of honor in American Football - so that was accepted as well. Plus, on top of all of that, we take after the Americans more than some would like to admit, and the fact that a pro league could never really sustain itself in the 'States until recently has a lot to do with it.

It's growing in popularity right now, but I'd say that has a lot to do with indoor soccer facilities becoming more affordable to operate with new technology over the past 15 years. We're conquering the weather hindrance to the sport, and as a result we're seeing record numbers of players.


So yeah. We understand the game just fine. It's just that until the last 15 years or so, we couldn't be bothered to care about it much.

 

[Inkling]

I've been a fan of soccer since I was a kid in the 80's and it's incredible how much it has grown and how much it has entered the mainstream in Canada. It is easy to follow now, almost impossible back then. My daughter's high school has a 'fan day' recently where they encouraged people to wear the jersey of their favourite team. She said it was almost all hockey and soccer, just a smattering of football, baseball and basketball. It is European soccer though. People care about soccer but less so about Canadian 2nd Division soccer. The Fury just need to build on that.

 

[jason2020]

I've been a fan of soccer since I was a kid in the 80's and it's incredible how much it has grown and how much it has entered the mainstream in Canada. It is easy to follow now, almost impossible back then. My daughter's high school has a 'fan day' recently where they encouraged people to wear the jersey of their favourite team. She said it was almost all hockey and soccer, just a smattering of football, baseball and basketball. It is European soccer though. People care about soccer but less so about Canadian 2nd Division soccer. The Fury just need to build on that.

If it was just d2 ok you can build on that but over all there is not much support over all for soccer.

 

[mianjo]

Just a little info, there are more people playing soccer than any other sport in Canada, the big problem is their is no National league for players to play in, 3 teams in MLS and 2 teams in NASL, all other leagues are either provincial or local.
Until there is a Canadian league or all teams in MLS or NASL, then their will be no National support.

 

[jason2020]

Just a little info, there are more people playing soccer than any other sport in Canada, the big problem is their is no National league for players to play in, 3 teams in MLS and 2 teams in NASL, all other leagues are either provincial or local.
Until there is a Canadian league or all teams in MLS or NASL, then their will be no National support.

If you ask people in Toronto or Montreal/Vancouver would you watch Mls if you did not have a team most would say no.

 

[FuriousSenator]

People in Canada UNDERSTAND soccer. We all have played it at some point. Everyone I know played soccer as a kid. We all did it every single year in gym classes across the country.

We just don't care. At least, not until very, very recently.


Not trying to throw Soccer under the bus here either, just stating facts. It's a summer sport that needs a dry field to play on - that describes maybe 1/4 of our total Canadian climate calendar. It's hard to get really into a sport that has a limited window of opportunity like that. Baseball always got a pass because you really don't NEED to run as much in baseball, so bad weather/wet fields didn't have quite the same impact. Football almost glorifies "mudbowls" and "icebowls" - playing through inclement weather is a badge of honor in American Football - so that was accepted as well. Plus, on top of all of that, we take after the Americans more than some would like to admit, and the fact that a pro league could never really sustain itself in the 'States until recently has a lot to do with it.

It's growing in popularity right now, but I'd say that has a lot to do with indoor soccer facilities becoming more affordable to operate with new technology over the past 15 years. We're conquering the weather hindrance to the sport, and as a result we're seeing record numbers of players.


So yeah. We understand the game just fine. It's just that until the last 15 years or so, we couldn't be bothered to care about it much.

I'm not referring to the game. I'm saying Canadians don't understand the structure of pro soccer. Divisions, friendlies, promotion, relegation, interleague competition. All of it is alien to North Americans.

People scoff at Fury because they're 'minor league'; and Canadian media treats them as such. All of which is categorically wrong. There is no 'minor league' in global soccer. Every club, no matter what division, is equal. From Man United to Ottawa Fury FC. All are treated the same way in the eyes of FIFA. If you play well enough you rise the global ranks to play against the very best. Look at Montreal Impact; incredible run through the CONCACAF Champions League to be just a few goals away from playing competitively against the likes of Bayern Munich (or whoever else qualifies). The EXACT same thing is possible for Fury FC.

People need to understand this to realize that the Ottawa Fury FC can be easily Ottawa's most important sports team from an international perspective. No offence to the Sens or the NHL, but only a tiny fraction of people in the world know or care about pro hockey. When Rangers played against Ottawa Fury FC last summer though, I saw 'Ottawa' in newspapers all over the UK for the first time in my life. Incredible feeling.

 

[mianjo]

When Rangers played against Ottawa Fury FC last summer though, I saw 'Ottawa' in newspapers all over the UK for the first time in my life. Incredible feeling.

To follow up on that, i was chatting to someone on my English teams chat site (Plymouth Argyle), when i mentioned that i also support Ottawa Fury, he immediately said you did pretty well against Glasgow Rangers last year, this was about 10 months after we played Rangers yet he knew immediately knew we had played them. Soccer (football) is a global game, ice hockey/baseball/NFL/CFL is'nt and never will be.

 

[pepty]

Well now across Canada they're known because someone tried to strangle one of the Fury players on an AC plane and it's been on the news a lot.

So far tonight no score in Atlanta.

 

[mianjo]

HT Fury 1 Atlanta 0

Nicki Paterson scoring

 

[pepty]

HT Fury 1 Atlanta 0

Nicki Paterson scoring

Hope they can hang in there. For one thing I want to hear Dos Santos sound happier.

 

[mianjo]

FT HT Fury 1 Atlanta 1

 

[connor macdavid]

Well, there goes the spring season.

1 point of six to start such a rapid-fire style set of games hurts too much.

Hopefully they can regroup and pick up a win against either Minny or Ft. Lauderdale at home.

FTL has been a revelation - a lot of people had written them off due to the massive roster turnover, but they're holding their own and then some.

 

[jason2020]

Well, there goes the spring season.

1 point of six to start such a rapid-fire style set of games hurts too much.

Hopefully they can regroup and pick up a win against either Minny or Ft. Lauderdale at home.

FTL has been a revelation - a lot of people had written them off due to the massive roster turnover, but they're holding their own and then some.

They win both games and there right back in it.

 

[connor macdavid]

They win both games and there right back in it.

To win the spring season, you have to get off to a good start.

Even if they win the next two games, they'll be counting on NY, TB, etc to not pick up points in order to get back into it. Since the only spot that matters in the Spring is 1st, it's going to be very hard for them to bounce back from five dropped points in the first two matches.

The target now should just be to stay relevant in the wildcard race - if they can win four or five games this spring and sit within a couple points of fourth place, then I'll consider it a successful spring.

 

[SilverSeven]

One would think people in Ottawa wouldnt write off a team after 2 games

Fury are in tough for the Spring season, but missing 4 of your starting 11 in the first game and DG in the second made it unlikely they would start hot.

 

[jason2020]

To win the spring season, you have to get off to a good start.

Even if they win the next two games, they'll be counting on NY, TB, etc to not pick up points in order to get back into it. Since the only spot that matters in the Spring is 1st, it's going to be very hard for them to bounce back from five dropped points in the first two matches.

The target now should just be to stay relevant in the wildcard race - if they can win four or five games this spring and sit within a couple points of fourth place, then I'll consider it a successful spring.

Sure but one or 2 of those top teams lose there next two and Ottawa is right back in it.

 

[connor macdavid]

The Fury have no Andrew Hammond though (at least not yet...)

Unlikely that Tampa and NY post losing records from here on out in the Spring. Fury should realistically aim to stay close to the top 4.

Tough that the team has its most important home match of the season the same night as Game 4 in the Sens-Habs series. Hard for me to see them drawing more than ~2500 for that, especially if the Sens are in a competitive series.

Predictions for here on out:

4/18 v. Minny (Draw, hopefully)
4/22 v. EDM (one-goal win)*
4/25 v. FTL (Draw)
4/29 @ EDM (one-goal loss, somebody advances on pens!)*
05/02 @NYC (Loss)
05/09 v. TB (Draw)
05/23 v. Indy (Win)
05/29 v. EDM (Win)
06/07 @ JAX (Loss)
06/13 @ SAS (Loss)

* - Canadian Championship

That would bring their record (W-D-L) to 2-4-4, for 10/30 points, which would probably put them 5-7 points back of 4th (going off of last season's Spring Table, adding a couple points for the extra game). Not disastrous considering the disjointed start they've had to the Spring season.

 

[BonkTastic]

I'm not referring to the game. I'm saying Canadians don't understand the structure of pro soccer. Divisions, friendlies, promotion, relegation, interleague competition. All of it is alien to North Americans.

People scoff at Fury because they're 'minor league'; and Canadian media treats them as such. All of which is categorically wrong. There is no 'minor league' in global soccer. Every club, no matter what division, is equal. From Man United to Ottawa Fury FC. All are treated the same way in the eyes of FIFA. If you play well enough you rise the global ranks to play against the very best. Look at Montreal Impact; incredible run through the CONCACAF Champions League to be just a few goals away from playing competitively against the likes of Bayern Munich (or whoever else qualifies). The EXACT same thing is possible for Fury FC.

People need to understand this to realize that the Ottawa Fury FC can be easily Ottawa's most important sports team from an international perspective. No offence to the Sens or the NHL, but only a tiny fraction of people in the world know or care about pro hockey. When Rangers played against Ottawa Fury FC last summer though, I saw 'Ottawa' in newspapers all over the UK for the first time in my life. Incredible feeling.

OK, well. yeah. This makes more sense than what I thought you meant.

That being said, not understanding the structure of friendlies, divisions, etc... that's a direct result of historically not caring about soccer itself for decades upon decades. It's slowly changing, but it's going to be a while. Sports Journalism isn't quite the young man's game it wants to be just yet - there are still a lot of dinosaurs in publishing & media that have that old 1970's mindset.


Also: if you want to read about Ottawa in international newspapers, just read the "World" section. Here in Jakarta when I read the Post, I read about Harper effing up ALL THE TIME. I can't imagine it's all that different in Scotland.

 

[FuriousSenator]

OK, well. yeah. This makes more sense than what I thought you meant.

That being said, not understanding the structure of friendlies, divisions, etc... that's a direct result of historically not caring about soccer itself for decades upon decades. It's slowly changing, but it's going to be a while. Sports Journalism isn't quite the young man's game it wants to be just yet - there are still a lot of dinosaurs in publishing & media that have that old 1970's mindset.


Also: if you want to read about Ottawa in international newspapers, just read the "World" section. Here in Jakarta when I read the Post, I read about Harper effing up ALL THE TIME. I can't imagine it's all that different in Scotland.

Definitely agreed to the former.

As to the latter, should have clarified, 'sports section', definitely got my fair share of Harper/Ford interest in the international news while I was abroad.