Proposal: Ottawa cap floor issue

[hagan88]

Hanzal for Dallas might not ever play again and can help you get to the floor. We need top 6 players and could be part of a bigger deal.

 

[TOGuy14]

I said this a couple weeks ago but a retired Marleau is perfect for Ottawa and Toronto after July 2nd.

Marleau never leaves his Toronto home with his family and skips out on his final year at minimum salary, Ottawa gets an easy cap space eater for nothing.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I said this a couple weeks ago but a retired Marleau is perfect for Ottawa and Toronto after July 2nd.

Marleau never leaves his Toronto home with his family and skips out on his final year at minimum salary, Ottawa gets an easy cap space eater for nothing.

And what is Toronto giving Ottawa for helping out Dubas?

 

[canuckslover10]

Willing to offer sutter and gudbranson

 

[TorontoTrades]

Toronto wrote the blueprint on this. (Although, not for cap floor reasons)

Take on bad contracts that have reasonable term (2/3 years) and stockpile assets with it. Picks, prospects. They're going to be bad for a couple years at least. Make the most of it.


Zaitsev is on his way.

 

[Cogburn]

Yeah if the cap floor is Ottawa's issue than there are a number of things they can do to correct that in separate trades.

Or (and hear me out on this one) they take back some salary in any trades they make before the deadline

or

they sign a free agent or two if the worry is in the off season.

As much as I love the idea of finding a forever home for our mongrel dogs like Sutter or Gud or Eriksson Ottawa has options better then trading assets for crap.

Even just having the need doesn't mean that someone elses junk has value to them. All it means is that the Senators COULD take the salary as part of a bigger deal or simply accept assets to swallow a contract or two rather than pay an asset for it/them.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Toronto wrote the blueprint on this. (Although, not for cap floor reasons)

Take on bad contracts that have reasonable term (2/3 years) and stockpile assets with it. Picks, prospects. They're going to be bad for a couple years at least. Make the most of it.


Zaitsev is on his way.

Those 2 things are not the same.

 

[TorontoTrades]

Those 2 things are not the same.

You're telling me there arent bad contracts that only have 2 or 3 years left teams would tie assets to for Ottawa to take?

 

[Horse McHindu]

To Ottawa: 2020 1st + Sutter + Gudbranson (zero retention)

To Vancouver: ????

 

[Horse McHindu]

To Ottawa: 2020 1st + Sutter + Gudbranson (zero retention)

To Vancouver: ????

 

[Yog S'loth]

No team ever has trouble reaching the cap floor. It's not a real thing.

Remember when the Kings were going to trade Kopitar to the Hawks for Khabibulin because it was "the only way to reach the cap floor"?

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Sens will probably sign a second line guy to a 5mil contract in the off season. Maybe they'll trade for Clarkson or Franzen.

 

[Halla]

Oh thanks!

The vultures are circling, not only are you taking all the sens best players at pennies to the dollar 'and we should be happy about it' but you are going to give us your worst ones too? Sign me up!

zaitsev plays 20mins a night for one of the best teams in the league. he is getting raked over the coals because he is a 3-3.5 mil guy making 4.5. calm down

 

[bert]

zaitsev plays 20mins a night for one of the best teams in the league. he is getting raked over the coals because he is a 3-3.5 mil guy making 4.5. calm down

Are you trying to argue that Zaitsev is a good hockey player? I know you think every leaf is gods gift but really man, the sens torched him 3 times last week and they are a brutal hockey team. Gardiner Zaitsev will be the downfall of the leafs if that is your 2nd pair.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

To Ottawa: 2020 1st + Sutter + Gudbranson (zero retention)

To Vancouver: ????

I feel like trading a 1st is a big no for Vancouver.

 

[Horse McHindu]

I feel like trading a 1st is a big no for Vancouver.

It likely is, but here is my thought process behind it:

1) I believe that after this year, the Canucks will start to trend upwards significantly.....and will be a wildcard playoff caliber team. The addition of Hughes will put them over the top. In the following year, I would expect our 1st rounder from 2019 to become a key contributor as well.

2) by using the 2020 1st as a sweetener, the Canucks can get rid of massive cap space and be key players in the UFA market this off season.

 

[TOGuy14]

And what is Toronto giving Ottawa for helping out Dubas?

First off you are looking at this backwards because we are saving Cheapo Eugene 6.5M real dollars he won't have to spend now.

Second the going rate to offload a contract like this is essentially nothing.

The Wings gave up the 16th + Datsyuk for the 20th + 53rd pick. So they slid down 4 spots and picked up an additional second round pick. I guess we would give you Marleau + 3rd for a 4th round pick

 

[DFC]

This is where they take a good asset and acquire Ryan Callahan, who might well waive for Ottawa if the alternative is a buyout, which could lose him roughly a million dollars, should he sign to a league minimum contract afterward.

 

[fasterthanlight]

Didn't read the whole thread, but... Can the oilers flip lucic to OTT with 50% retention and then get him back (and pay OTT like a 2nd round pick or something)? This probably is against the CBA lol

 

[topshelf15]

The thing about hitting the floor can work in our favor ,not just in taking bad deals to hit it...But also to facilitate a better return on any trades involving our UFA,s...As we can take a big contract back

 

[KevinRedkey]

You're telling me there arent bad contracts that only have 2 or 3 years left teams would tie assets to for Ottawa to take?

No. I'm saying Zaitsev isn't one of them. He has 5yrs left. Not 2 or 3.

 

[Artanis]

There are no cap floor issues in Ottawa.

 

[KevinRedkey]

This is where they take a good asset and acquire Ryan Callahan, who might well waive for Ottawa if the alternative is a buyout, which could lose him roughly a million dollars, should he sign to a league minimum contract afterward.

To OTT:
Ryan Callahan
2020 2nd

To TBL:
Mike Condon
2020 6th (SJS)

TBL saves 4.475 in cap space if they simply bury Condon.
OTT gets a nice pick, and an NHLer.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Evidently Duchene may want to return even if he is traded at the deadline so I doubt Ottawa will have trouble reaching the cap floor

 

[LucicAndChong]

psst

hey eugene














zaitsev.