Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I

OMG67

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With MacK in net and the overall decent defence when they keep out of the box, they proved tonight they can remain competitive even without Pinelli. It was good to see them play without their crutch. They responded fairly well overall. Solid road game against a strong team.

Yanni with his best game as a 67 tonight. HE was under their skin the entire game, helped kill that final Penalty giving his stick to Marrelli and then dumping in front of shots. REALLY impressed with his game tonight.

Whitehead also with a strong game. He wasn’t trying to over-do it. HE found a way to contain his aggressiveness. Pots a SO goal.

I know I have said this a few times already but Eshkawkogan has alligator blood. The kid is unflappable. He plays with such maturity and poise.

Mews was better tonight.

Ekberg with two glorious chances in OT and flubbed both of them.
 
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While this is a rebuild year, and the next, it's important to remember that these are also years of potential growth. We may not have star players yet, but that's the natural progression from our early years. As for Boyd and the drafting, I'm still on the fence. DC is learning, but I have some concerns about the older players' receptiveness to his learning.
I still think the sooner they trade Mews the better,

Boyd needs to look around at other junior non-OHL teams and see if he can find players that can play 3rd and 4th line so that they have the bodies.

I agree that mentor wise MacK is good but if we do not have the forward r defence bodies then we need to look at trading him so that we have enough players to ice a team. You can not go a whole season with only enough players to ice a team.
 

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While this is a rebuild year, and the next, it's important to remember that these are also years of potential growth. We may not have star players yet, but that's the natural progression from our early years. As for Boyd and the drafting, I'm still on the fence. DC is learning, but I have some concerns about the older players' receptiveness to his learning.
I still think the sooner they trade Mews the better,

Boyd needs to look around at other junior non-OHL teams and see if he can find players that can play 3rd and 4th line so that they have the bodies.

I agree that mentor wise MacK is good but if we do not have the forward r defence bodies then we need to look at trading him so that we have enough players to ice a team. You can not go a whole season with only enough players to ice a team.

We need to manage player cards as well. We cannot blow cards on temporary players. We don’t know what the future holds right now. We currently are on pace to assign 23 player cards (assuming the existing rookies all play 10 games). A 24th would go to Conway if he actually gets into games. That leaves us 6-7 remaining cards. We cannot afford to waste them on players that will play 5 minutes per game for a short period of time until the deadline moves are made.

There is no reason why they cannot play with 16 skaters now and then. It happens often when a player leaves the game with injury or there is sickness running through the room. It is not ideal but as long as it doesn’t get worse, it shouldn’t be a problem. Heck, there are posters on here that complain about young players not playing. The best way to get them playing is reduce the size of the bench!
 

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Well. If they wanna stay competitive then they need bodies. As simple as that. If you wanna tank and just give the kids as many minutes as possible then that sort of stuff is cool but if you wanna give this team a fair chance to make the playoffs, and I think that at least used to be the plan heading into the season, then this team is in need of bodies...because at the moment the burn rate is far too high. They're dropping off like flies.

Nice to see Yanni and Whitehead back to playoff form though. I hope they can keep it up. Those two and Barlas played some excellent shifts during playoffs but haven't really been playing on that level this season.
 

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Well. If they wanna stay competitive then they need bodies. As simple as that. If you wanna tank and just give the kids as many minutes as possible then that sort of stuff is cool but if you wanna give this team a fair chance to make the playoffs, and I think that at least used to be the plan heading into the season, then this team is in need of bodies...because at the moment the burn rate is far too high. They're dropping off like flies.

Nice to see Yanni and Whitehead back to playoff form though. I hope they can keep it up. Those two and Barlas played some excellent shifts during playoffs but haven't really been playing on that level this season.

Again, if they acquire bodies, they cannot be temporary fill ins. They need to be guys that are here for the season.

They burnt a card on Hilton. If they burn two cards on random guys to fill temporary roster spots, that leaves them with no more than 5 remaining cards to play with at the deadline. It really limits their flexibility and options.

If it is about building a team/franchise, the main focus needs to be on allowing the GM to come out of the deadline with the best possible team, whether that is a team that is intended to compete or one that is intending to build for the future. Either way, they cannot just blow cards up because of one or two weekends short 2-3 skaters when DC doesn’t typically play the 4th line much anyway.
 

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Only saw highlights so far from OHL site... No Rogers coverage...
Was there anyone attending this game live? Seems like no one in Brampton is interested?
Is this better than Mississauga?
 
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Would that not have transferred in the trade? Why do they still hold that obligation? On a related note, is there somewhere to read the rules and regulations on player carding, roster composition, and affiliated players?

Cards don’t follow players. Cards are meant to limit the number of deals/movement. It is not like the NHL with roster spots etc.

All rookies are assigned cards once they play their 10th game. After they achieve that, they are on the full player card. Once they play game one the following seasons, they count as a card.

Hilton played over ten games so his first game this year was assigned a card.

Each of the rookies on the roster technically do not have a full card yet. They need to play 10 games but we assume they will play 10 games and then be assigned a card.

The only thing I am not sure of is Conway. I’m not sure if it is him on the player game sheet or actually on the ice.

Only saw highlights so far from OHL site... No Rogers coverage...
Was there anyone attending this game live? Seems like no one in Brampton is interested?
Is this better than Mississauga?

It was about the arena lease. They received a significantly better deal in Brantford. When your attendance is brutal, controlling costs becomes a big deal.
 
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Cards don’t follow players. Cards are meant to limit the number of deals/movement. It is not like the NHL with roster spots etc.

All rookies are assigned cards once they play their 10th game. After they achieve that, they are on the full player card. Once they play game one the following seasons, they count as a card.

Hilton played over ten games so his first game this year was assigned a card.

Each of the rookies on the roster technically do not have a full card yet. They need to play 10 games but we assume they will play 10 games and then be assigned a card.

The only thing I am not sure of is Conway. I’m not sure if it is him on the player game sheet or actually on the ice.



It was about the arena lease. They received a significantly better deal in Brantford. When your attendance is brutal, controlling costs becomes a big deal.
The issue is that we need bodies at defence and forward. If that is the case, then we need to consider releasing Mack so that we have enough skaters.

We are coming in to flu season which could kill us. We need this year to be a write-off and develop players. The issue is not the players but that Boyd did not draft players who could play in the OHL in the past few years. Tourigny had the same issue; hence, his son made the team.

For me the team that makes sense right now is

Pinelli Foster Stonehouse Gerrior
Ekberg Dever Korbler
Yanni Whitehead Horner
Barlas Amidovski Kelly

Houben

7 D 2 OA

Nelson
Conway

We are not going to get a player for Gerrior or Stonehouse, but we need to waive and trade one of them.


While I would like to keep MacK to play this year and ease Nelson and Conway, I think we need the 7 D at least especially as we do not know what we will get back in trades for Mews and Pinelli.



Horner
 

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Cards don’t follow players. Cards are meant to limit the number of deals/movement. It is not like the NHL with roster spots etc.

All rookies are assigned cards once they play their 10th game. After they achieve that, they are on the full player card. Once they play game one the following seasons, they count as a card.

Hilton played over ten games so his first game this year was assigned a card.

Each of the rookies on the roster technically do not have a full card yet. They need to play 10 games but we assume they will play 10 games and then be assigned a card.

The only thing I am not sure of is Conway. I’m not sure if it is him on the player game sheet or actually on the ice.



It was about the arena lease. They received a significantly better deal in Brantford. When your attendance is brutal, controlling costs becomes a big deal.
Conway is on an affiliate card
 

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Conway is on an affiliate card

Yes but it becomes a full card when the player plays 10 games. Skaters only need to be in the lineup. I am not sure it is the same measuring stick for goalies. I think the goalie actually has to step on the ice and hit the net for the games to count for goalies but I am not entirely sure about that.



The issue is that we need bodies at defence and forward. If that is the case, then we need to consider releasing Mack so that we have enough skaters.

We are coming in to flu season which could kill us. We need this year to be a write-off and develop players. The issue is not the players but that Boyd did not draft players who could play in the OHL in the past few years. Tourigny had the same issue; hence, his son made the team.

For me the team that makes sense right now is

Pinelli Foster Stonehouse Gerrior
Ekberg Dever Korbler
Yanni Whitehead Horner
Barlas Amidovski Kelly

Houben

7 D 2 OA

Nelson
Conway

We are not going to get a player for Gerrior or Stonehouse, but we need to waive and trade one of them.


While I would like to keep MacK to play this year and ease Nelson and Conway, I think we need the 7 D at least especially as we do not know what we will get back in trades for Mews and Pinelli.



Horner


We don’t “need” players. Dressing a full 18 skater lineup is a want, not a need. OHL teams often dress under 18 skaters. People are acting like the World is coming to an end and we need to scramble to find players to plug holes on the 4th line that hardly ever plays anyway….

We currently have 20 skaters on roster (plus 2 goalies). Most teams carry 20 skaters. Some carry 21. We do have Perrier and Bonomo signed as affiliate players that can come up if all hell breaks loose. If all of Kelly, Korbler, and Pinelli are out of the lineup on Sunday, I could see Perrier getting a call up.

It was only two weeks ago when people were complaining about players getting scratched. Then they complained the ones in the lineup weren’t getting played enough. Now, we have a few players out and those players are getting played and apparently we should have more players in the lineup so those players don’t get played…. This team cannot win with you no matter what they do or how they distribute the ice time.

And, your answer is to release MacK so they can play Sirman for another week before they need to sit/release him to make room for Stonehouse? There is absolutely zero logic to what you are suggesting. It is awful roster management.

Perrier and Bonomo can play up to 9 games. Eshkawkogan will miss three-four games when he suits up for Team Canada Red at the U-17 Nov 3-9. Are we fortunate that Amidovski didn’t qualify for that tournament when all the other first rounders around him did? Hmmmm.

If MacK moves, we need to assign a card to another goalie. That reduces us to 6 remaining cards. When Stonehouse plays one game, that brings us down to five. If we were to add two temporary players to get over the hump, that brings us down to three. So, based on your proposal, we’d have three cards going into the deadline. That may be enough but if we have to move Mews and Pinelli, we’d be restricted to only adding three players in those trades. If Boyd wants to cute deeper, and also move Foster, we’d basically be restricted to one player back for each of those three. You need to consider the value of the limited number of player cards a team gets. They cannot be cavalier about it and go into panic mode.
 
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Only saw highlights so far from OHL site... No Rogers coverage...
Was there anyone attending this game live? Seems like no one in Brampton is interested?
Is this better than Mississauga?
Moving the team 7 minutes down the street had nothing to do with attendance.
They play there for free for 10 years it was a no brainer.
Either arena the attendance is going to suck.
 

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As it was yesterday Amidovski barely saw the ice until the shootout…
That is the DC problem. He wants to win every game; therefore, he is not going to give players chances.

As to going with what we have we do not have enough.

I don't plan to get rid of Mack and save Sirman. I think they need to get rid of Mack and either B|Gerrior or Stonehouse.

We have a problem on defence and not enough defencemen. You can not have a team go the season with only 5, and it will not work. We have extra LW, so play them.

When Mews leaves, and he will leave, we will have only 5 D . Therefore, Sirman has value to us this year. Before you say well, we will get a D back my question is, are you sure? It is just as likely that we will see a minimal return (picks) or a team will give us a forward,

Buy Hey i AM STUPID AND DONT'S KNOW ANYTHING.

My prediction is that we will be 8-9 in the standings at the end of the year due to poor asset management and bad coaching.

Just remember one thing last year when everyone was saying we could be a top team I said 6th place and that we should be rebuilding.

I think I was proven right.

See you at the end of season
 
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That is the DC problem. He wants to win every game; therefore, he is not going to give players chances.
I watched the entire '67s-IceDogs game Thursday. The growth of Whitehead and Yanni as players was not stunted by a lack of unearned TOI last season, imo.
As to going with what we have we do not have enough.

I don't plan to get rid of Mack and save Sirman. I think they need to get rid of Mack and either B|Gerrior or Stonehouse.

We have a problem on defence and not enough defencemen. You can not have a team go the season with only 5, and it will not work. We have extra LW, so play them.

When Mews leaves, and he will leave, we will have only 5 D . Therefore, Sirman has value to us this year. Before you say well, we will get a D back my question is, are you sure? It is just as likely that we will see a minimal return (picks) or a team will give us a forward,

Buy Hey i AM STUPID AND DONT'S KNOW ANYTHING.

My prediction is that we will be 8-9 in the standings at the end of the year due to poor asset management and bad coaching.

Just remember one thing last year when everyone was saying we could be a top team I said 6th place and that we should be rebuilding.

I think I was proven right.

See you at the end of season
 
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That is the DC problem. He wants to win every game; therefore, he is not going to give players chances.

As to going with what we have we do not have enough.

I don't plan to get rid of Mack and save Sirman. I think they need to get rid of Mack and either B|Gerrior or Stonehouse.

We have a problem on defence and not enough defencemen. You can not have a team go the season with only 5, and it will not work. We have extra LW, so play them.

When Mews leaves, and he will leave, we will have only 5 D . Therefore, Sirman has value to us this year. Before you say well, we will get a D back my question is, are you sure? It is just as likely that we will see a minimal return (picks) or a team will give us a forward,

Buy Hey i AM STUPID AND DONT'S KNOW ANYTHING.

My prediction is that we will be 8-9 in the standings at the end of the year due to poor asset management and bad coaching.

Just remember one thing last year when everyone was saying we could be a top team I said 6th place and that we should be rebuilding.

I think I was proven right.

See you at the end of season

There are a whole host of things you are assuming. You have no idea how long any of these players are out of the lineup. You don’t know when Stonehouse returns. You don’t know what trade discussions have been had regarding Mews. You are ranting without any information.

You are starting at worst case scenario and working your way to more than worst case scenario.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot suggest the young guys aren’t playing enough and now say they are playing too much because the lineup is short.

Perrier and Bonomo are signed affiliates. If it gets to the point where they are more short staffed than they can handle then they can recall those guys. As of now, they can play with a short bench.

If they trade Mews and only get picks, they can use picks to acquire a replacement. The World is not going to end if Horner has to play as the #6 D-Man for a weekend. It is not the end of the World if he has to play as the #5 with Bonomo as the #6 either.

You are acting like the sky is falling. You keep looking at the negatives. It is a rebuilding team that is struggling with the reality that it is a rebuilding team so they are keeping as many options open as possible which is not a bad approach.
 

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