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Ottawa 67's 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 3)

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beastintheeast said:
What seems to be our problem in the first period.

I think it is going to take a little time for Rohrer to get his legs back. Also think Cameron needs to look at his lines.
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Rohrer was really rusty, that’s for sure. Faceoffs were a significant problem too. The London goal was a direct result of a faceoff loss by Rohrer, and he had lost one right before that that almost resulted in a goal on the exact same play. They need to bear down in the defensive zone.

I thought Mintyukov has his best game as a 67 this evening. Morrison was buzzing too. Would have been nice to pick up a win but c’est la vie.
 
In general, the team lacks urgency in their play. After an early burst last night, they just stopped shooting and were outplayed in the first period. Rohrer needs to rely on his shot more. On the PP in the second, he had a great shooting position and elected to try to pass through two defenders across the crease. Didn't work at all.

This game was a perfect example of how I think about games: a tie can be the precise result needed. Two strong teams battle through 65 minutes and we decide the game with a skills competition. I know why it is there, I just don't like it.
 
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DC dressing just 10 F & 8 D while playing TS on forward is not a wise coaching move. Sitting a perfectly health CK & JD is not the way to do it. It takes one injury or major to drop the team down to just 9 actual forwards. JB should have sent some of these D back at the deadline if it’s so important to play the D.
 
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We look out of it. Not creating many scoring chances. Pray to god we don’t see Hamilton in the playoffs
 
Minty with his first goal with Ottawa and a shorty to boot. The only player to be +2 and the rest of the team was even or minus. I hope this is him getting aclaimated with his teammates and gets things turned around. Can't blame him for losing.
 
Peachkings1922 said:
Minty with his first goal with Ottawa and a shorty to boot. The only player to be +2 and the rest of the team was even or minus. I hope this is him getting aclaimated with his teammates and gets things turned around. Can't blame him for losing.
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I thought he was awesome last night against London - his best game as a 67. Good to see him hit the back of the net today.
 
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Ottawa controls the puck for the first half of overtime and ended up with zero shots on net. Mackenzie allowed three goals high glove side, one that he just whiffed on. This team is in a funk now. No-one seems to want to shoot the puck. Hamilton took 10 point shots, Ottawa took 5.
 
Part of the problem with this team is that everyone was thinking we are so good wait until Boucher Beck and Vinnie get back.
Then we make a trade for arguably the top 2 players in the OHL and players again look around he dressing room and say great these guys are going to lead us to the promised land.

Before the deadline we were a where did they come from what is it with this team that it can win. Then other teams made the adjustments and the players on this team did not make the mental adjustments.

The best solution for ego is to lose and maybe this is what they need.


I agree the first period of games is brutal.

maybe Cameron needs to utilize a bit of Killer and say ok you did not skate for 60 minutes tonight so stay dressed and after the fans leave you owe me 20 minutes of skating drills.
 
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beastintheeast said:
Part of the problem with this team is that everyone was thinking we are so good wait until Boucher Beck and Vinnie get back.
Then we make a trade for arguably the top 2 players in the OHL and players again look around he dressing room and say great these guys are going to lead us to the promised land.

Before the deadline we were a where did they come from what is it with this team that it can win. Then other teams made the adjustments and the players on this team did not make the mental adjustments.

The best solution for ego is to lose and maybe this is what they need.


I agree the first period of games is brutal.

maybe Cameron needs to utilize a bit of Killer and say ok you did not skate for 60 minutes tonight so stay dressed and after the fans leave you owe me 20 minutes of skating drills.
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I would be happier with more forwards in the lineup and fewer defence. The on-air announcers were joking that Hamilton didn't touch the puck until 1:25 into OT. Didn't matter, nobody shot the puck at the net. This is the shot map for the game. Ottawa was struggling to get any kind of effective offence going. They seem to skate, but the offensive focus just is not there yet.

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This team is in a real funk now, cannot create offence, passes are not crisp and the defense looks very ordinary. The young D are getting exposed, Mayich is easily getting separated from puck and Constantino is not contributing a whole lot.

I think we should sit out Eweles and Marrelli, put Sirman back on D and use JD and CK up front. Go with 6 and 12 as something has to improve.
 
analyser said:
This team is in a real funk now, cannot create offence, passes are not crisp and the defense looks very ordinary. The young D are getting exposed, Mayich is easily getting separated from puck and Constantino is not contributing a whole lot.

I think we should sit out Eweles and Marrelli, put Sirman back on D and use JD and CK up front. Go with 6 and 12 as something has to improve.
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The challenge is not better players or moving Sirman back. Actually dressing him as a forward on the 4th line gives Cameron 2 options.

It gives him a player that can make up for the oops that rookies on the 4th line make
It also gives him in actuality 9 d dressed so that if someone gets hurt or does not play up to snuff he can be moved back.

The challenge that they seem to have is passitis. The fear of shooting or making a mistake. They are over thinking.

We have seen it before on many of the teams they are looking for the pretty goal. They are looking for that better shot.

The solution is simple shoot the dam puck at the net stop thinking.

The other solution is to set up the lines and get players used to each other. Injuries have hurt as well as the trades.

To me the lines should be

Beck Morrison Rohrer
Pinelli Tolnai Stonehouse
Foster Gardiner Boucher/Sirman
Dever Barlas Gerrior

Defence I would set up pairings and just tell them to shoot when they have the shot. Minykov just needs to find a dance partner and that is going to take time. Also we have Smythe coming back.

We have 4 good centers the question is who is better at faceoffs.
 
beastintheeast said:
The challenge is not better players or moving Sirman back. Actually dressing him as a forward on the 4th line gives Cameron 2 options.

It gives him a player that can make up for the oops that rookies on the 4th line make
It also gives him in actuality 9 d dressed so that if someone gets hurt or does not play up to snuff he can be moved back.

The challenge that they seem to have is passitis. The fear of shooting or making a mistake. They are over thinking.

We have seen it before on many of the teams they are looking for the pretty goal. They are looking for that better shot.

The solution is simple shoot the dam puck at the net stop thinking.

The other solution is to set up the lines and get players used to each other. Injuries have hurt as well as the trades.

To me the lines should be

Beck Morrison Rohrer
Pinelli Tolnai Stonehouse
Foster Gardiner Boucher/Sirman
Dever Barlas Gerrior

Defence I would set up pairings and just tell them to shoot when they have the shot. Minykov just needs to find a dance partner and that is going to take time. Also we have Smythe coming back.

We have 4 good centers the question is who is better at faceoffs.
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Tell me why you need 9 D at anytime in a game? Trying to play all the D at once is just making a mess of the whole defensive core. Insert Kelly and Dever with fresh legs for tomorrow's game since this is our 3 games in like 43 hours.
 
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beastintheeast said:
The challenge is not better players or moving Sirman back. Actually dressing him as a forward on the 4th line gives Cameron 2 options.

It gives him a player that can make up for the oops that rookies on the 4th line make
It also gives him in actuality 9 d dressed so that if someone gets hurt or does not play up to snuff he can be moved back.

The challenge that they seem to have is passitis. The fear of shooting or making a mistake. They are over thinking.

We have seen it before on many of the teams they are looking for the pretty goal. They are looking for that better shot.

The solution is simple shoot the dam puck at the net stop thinking.

The other solution is to set up the lines and get players used to each other. Injuries have hurt as well as the trades.

To me the lines should be

Beck Morrison Rohrer
Pinelli Tolnai Stonehouse
Foster Gardiner Boucher/Sirman
Dever Barlas Gerrior

Defence I would set up pairings and just tell them to shoot when they have the shot. Minykov just needs to find a dance partner and that is going to take time. Also we have Smythe coming back.

We have 4 good centers the question is who is better at faceoffs.
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It’s simple in my eyes

Pinelli: Morrison: Beck
Stone: Tolnai: Boucher
Foster: Rohrer: Gerrior
Barlas: Gardiner: Dever

Kelly in & out for Dever

Mayich: Matier
Mintyukov: Costantini
Mews: Sirman

Marrelli in & out for Sirman

PP1 Beck: Morrison: Rohrer
Mintyukov: Boucher

PP2 Pinelli: Tolnai: Stone
Matier: Mews

Horner, Ewles, Smyth unfortunately don’t draw in unless injury or suspension happen
 
AGranderson said:
It’s simple in my eyes

Pinelli: Morrison: Beck
Stone: Tolnai: Boucher
Foster: Rohrer: Gerrior
Barlas: Gardiner: Dever

Kelly in & out for Dever

Mayich: Matier
Mintyukov: Costantini
Mews: Sirman

Marrelli in & out for Sirman

PP1 Beck: Morrison: Rohrer
Mintyukov: Boucher

PP2 Pinelli: Tolnai: Stone
Matier: Mews

Horner, Ewles, Smyth unfortunately don’t draw in unless injury or suspension happen
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It is unlikely your playoff opponent will try to roll four lines. The ‘67s line-up will need to be condensed by the playoffs, or sooner imo. Maybe;
Beck-Morrison-Rohrer
Pinelli-Tolnai-Stonehouse
Foster-Gardiner-Guerior/Boucher
 
dirty12 said:
It is unlikely your playoff opponent will try to roll four lines. The ‘67s line-up will need to be condensed by the playoffs, or sooner imo. Maybe;
Beck-Morrison-Rohrer
Pinelli-Tolnai-Stonehouse
Foster-Gardiner-Guerior/Boucher
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Who said anything about playoff opponent playing 4 lines? Although If you have watched any team that has gone deep or won a championship it really does take 4 lines. that 4th line may only play 8 minutes a game but those 8 minutes are a big deal because it allows your top 3 lines to have a rest.
 
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ecraigs said:
I would be happier with more forwards in the lineup and fewer defence. The on-air announcers were joking that Hamilton didn't touch the puck until 1:25 into OT. Didn't matter, nobody shot the puck at the net. This is the shot map for the game. Ottawa was struggling to get any kind of effective offence going. They seem to skate, but the offensive focus just is not there yet.

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AGranderson said:
Who said anything about playoff opponent playing 4 lines? Although If you have watched any team that has gone deep or won a championship it really does take 4 lines. that 4th line may only play 8 minutes a game but those 8 minutes are a big deal because it allows your top 3 lines to have a rest.
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The Ottawa PP was just fine prior to the deadline. I would put Mintyukov and Matier on PP1 and have them play most of the man advantage. Matier can line up on left and blast away when the opportunity is there. Mintyukov can still be the QB.
 
OHLoutsider2020 said:
The Ottawa PP was just fine prior to the deadline. I would put Mintyukov and Matier on PP1 and have them play most of the man advantage. Matier can line up on left and blast away when the opportunity is there. Mintyukov can still be the QB.
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I don't disagree, but as of today, they aren't "blasting away." They waste PP after PP waiting for that picture-perfect tap-in. Switching them to their off-side would give them better angles, but they have to shoot.
 
analyser said:
Tell me why you need 9 D at anytime in a game? Trying to play all the D at once is just making a mess of the whole defensive core. Insert Kelly and Dever with fresh legs for tomorrow's game since this is our 3 games in like 43 hours.
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Here's something the Attack has been doing.

The forth line is an 18 yr old, a rookie and rotate any of our top 6 F thru. Only one rookie per game, rotated between 3 guys.
 
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