Confirmed Signing with Link: [OTT] F Claude Giroux signs with the Senators (3 years, $6.5M AAV)

[Karl Eriksson]

I am thrilled, but he’s 34 so I’m hoping it’s 4 years max. Money wise what, $7M?

4 years 28M seems like something I can get behind.

I’d rather pay more to keep the term down if that’s the trade off.

Can’t see Giroux taking 3 years if the goal is family stability and he won’t get major paid again really.

 

[CanHeDoIt99]

I think its going to be tough to make up 30 points in one year even with Debrincat, Giroux. Still some question marks on their back end, and while their depth is great up front their top-end guys aren't as good as the other top ends in the Atlantic (Huberdeau/Barkov, Matthews/Marner, Bergeron/Pasta/March).

Boston is hurt to start the year though - so if they can't weather that storm, Ottawa could jump up there.

 

[HSF]

I think its going to be tough to make up 30 points in one year even with Debrincat, Giroux. Still some question marks on their back end, and while their depth is great up front their top-end guys aren't as good as the other top ends in the Atlantic (Huberdeau/Barkov, Matthews/Marner, Bergeron/Pasta/March).

Boston is hurt to start the year though - so if they can't weather that storm, Ottawa could jump up there.

sens will add a top 4 D for sure

 

[Sting]

I think its going to be tough to make up 30 points in one year even with Debrincat, Giroux. Still some question marks on their back end, and while their depth is great up front their top-end guys aren't as good as the other top ends in the Atlantic (Huberdeau/Barkov, Matthews/Marner, Bergeron/Pasta/March).

Boston is hurt to start the year though - so if they can't weather that storm, Ottawa could jump up there.

Think you underestimate the internal progression of Brady/Norris/Stutzle/Batherson/Pinto/Formenton, who are all incredibly young players.

 

[Neil Patrick Harris]

I think most Sens fans would be happy to still be in the playoff hunt past Thanksgiving.

As for "the wrong time to take the next step", I think you could always point to a future draft and say it'd be better to be bad another year or two. It's been five long years now that the Sens have been bottom dwellers - at some point we have to actually take the next step and not keep betting on futures.

 

[SensFactor]

Ottawa has the players they are just young and will only get better.....

Norris (could have hit 40 goals last year ...had 35 goals in 66 games)
Tkachuk (nothing to say, he's does everything)
Stutzle (he's only 20, and we all see what he will become...electric)
Batherson (was our best forward last year before he got hurt and was an all-star selection, was on pace for 35+ goals)
DeBrincat (twice 40 goal man)
Sanderson (maybe the best D prospect outside the NHL right now, he's in the lineup next year)
Pinto (very underrated, high-IQ prospect that has potential to be elite 3c two-way forward)

 

[The Red Line]

Pasta-Bergeron-Marchand-McAvoy would all be the best player on Ottawa. Ottawas goaltending is putrid and is nothing compared to Boston. Bostons defense is way better. Both teams top 6 is comparable assuming Kessel comes and Krejic returns back to form. Bottom 6 for me is in Bostons favour.

Lol as of right now only 1 of those guys is even going to be playing for them at the start of the season.

Times are a changin' and there's teams catching up very fast while Boston is going the wrong direction.

 

[CanHeDoIt99]

sens will add a top 4 D for sure

Think it will still be questionable with one addition. Sanderson is a great prospect, he could come in and be Seider/Fox, but if he's not, asking him to be a top four d is tough.

If your top four is

Chabot Zub
Sanderson XXX

and one of Chabot/Zub/XXX get hurt + Sanderson isn't a top four guy immediately upon arrival, then that D is in significant trouble IMO.

The flip side is if its Weegar/Chychrun they add and Sanderson is Seider/Fox level good right away, then the team is really good and could break 100 pts assuming goaltending isn't just pitiful.

Ottawa has the players they are just young and will only get better.....

Norris (could have hit 40 goals last year ...had 35 goals in 66 games)
Tkachuk (nothing to say, he's does everything)
Stutzle (he's only 20, and we all see what he will become...electric)
Batherson (was out best forward last year before he got hurt and was an all-star selection, was on pace for 35+ goals)
DeBrincat (twice 40 goal man)
Sanderson (maybe the best D prospect outside the NHL right now, he's in the lineup next year)
Pinto (very underrated, high-IQ prospect that has potential to be elite 3c two-way forward)

Norris shot 20% last year. Don't think anyone in the league can do that consistently. Some of that regression can be offset by development though for sure. There are good pieces here.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Sleeping on Stutzle or how good other players like Chabot, Tkachuk Batherson and Norris are. Sens are fast and deep up front. Don't see how Bostons goaltending is any better.

I view Swayman as a top 10 goalie

 

[CanHeDoIt99]

Think you underestimate the internal progression of Brady/Norris/Stutzle/Batherson/Pinto/Formenton, who are all incredibly young players.

Could be, I just think there are question marks still. They had 73 points last year with actual decent-good goaltending last year. They've made some great adds, they're going to be much better - but are they a 100 pt team (cutoff for playoffs last year?)

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Of course. I think many of us having been told to "watch out for the pesky Sens, this might be their year" for 3 years now. During the COVID Cup, people had them potentially finishing 2nd, and the hype was real. We're all just waiting to see if they can actually take that potential and turn it into wins. Tough division, not many easy wins.

Not sure where this is coming from. Maybe a couple whacky Sens fans predicted they'd finish 2nd. THere are always a couple of people who overrate the team in a big way.

Next to nobody picked the Sens to finish 2nd during the division. Pretty much all Sens fans expected the team to be a potential bubble team at best. Then horrendous starts to both season ended all hope of that.

 

[bert]

I view Swayman as a top 10 goalie

Well you're alone his own coach didn't even think so.

 

[HSF]

Think it will still be questionable with one addition. Sanderson is a great prospect, he could come in and be Seider/Fox, but if he's not, asking him to be a top four d is tough.

If your top four is

Chabot Zub
Sanderson XXX

and one of Chabot/Zub/XXX get hurt + Sanderson isn't a top four guy immediately upon arrival, then that D is in significant trouble IMO.

The flip side is if its Weegar/Chychrun they add and Sanderson is Seider/Fox level good right away, then the team is really good and could break 100 pts assuming goaltending isn't just pitiful.



Norris shot 20% last year. Don't think anyone in the league can do that consistently. Some of that regression can be offset by development though for sure. There are good pieces here.

Dorion is playing 5D chess. We are about to steal Florida's top pairing defensemen.

 

[EverTheCynic]

What an impressive turnaround from Ottawa. If they get Weegar and Giroux, I can’t even.

God I hate being a Canucks fan.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Well you're alone his own coach didn't even think so.

I don’t think there is 10 goalies better then him. I think he’s better then Lehner, Bob, Flury, Jarry, and Kuemper

 

[Karl Eriksson]

I like how the synopsis of this thread is “yeah cool but your D still sucks”

Like can the sens not just do good things that are appreciated for what they are lol.

 

[KevinRedkey]

I am thrilled, but he’s 34 so I’m hoping it’s 4 years max. Money wise what, $7M?

4 years 28M seems like something I can get behind.

I’d rather pay more to keep the term down if that’s the trade off.

Can’t see Giroux taking 3 years if the goal is family stability and he won’t get major paid again really.

Call me crazy but I think it'll be closer to Evander Kane and Malkin's deals. Somewhere in the 5.600 range

 

[Silencio]

Ottawas goaltending is putrid and is nothing compared to Boston.

...you did hear we traded Matt Murray right?

 

[bert]

Call me crazy but I think it'll be closer to Evander Kane and Malkin's deals. Somewhere in the 5.600 range

I think it could be big money on a 2 year deal. Like 16 million or something.

 

[playasRus]

Call me crazy but I think it'll be closer to Evander Kane and Malkin's deals. Somewhere in the 5.600 range

Money's on 7M x 3 years

 

[swiftwin]

Lol, I love how everyone is coming in here to shit on the Sens.

The fear is real.

 

[SensFactor]

9 mins till 11am EST...lets GO! Giroux coming home

 

[Bevans]

I think it could be big money on a 2 year deal. Like 16 million or something.

This is my preference.

9 mins till 11am EST...lets GO! Giroux coming home

9 minutes till 59 minutes Till 1 minutes!

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I am thrilled, but he’s 34 so I’m hoping it’s 4 years max. Money wise what, $7M?

4 years 28M seems like something I can get behind.

I’d rather pay more to keep the term down if that’s the trade off.

Can’t see Giroux taking 3 years if the goal is family stability and he won’t get major paid again really.

What? 7m?

That would be a pretty crazy contract. I was thinking 5.5x3 or 6.5x2.

 

[EpochLink]

I’m cool with this, Giroux is that ‘veteran’ leadership the Senators can build on with the young core.