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Moving JBD for Gilbert is an under the radar move that could be big for Ottawa. Ottawa has no LD depth and with Kleven out they really need a LD to play on the bottom pair. No more having Hamonic playing the left side.
Confirmed Trade: [OTT/BUF] Dylan Cozens, Dennis Gilbert, and 2026 2nd round pick for Josh Norris and Jacob Bernard-Docker
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Steal of the day. These takes kill me. Has anyone here seen Cozens the last two years. He is terrible five on five and nothing special on special team. Just a mediocre player
Sergei Shirokov
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Interesting move for Buffalo. Norris is an upgrade but given his injury history I'm surprised he's the piece they'd settle on for Cozens. Maybe the offers just weren't there.
I kinda like it for Ottawa. Maybe thinking too highly of Cozens but there's still plenty of upside there, you also get younger & a more reliable player health-wise.
I kinda like it for Ottawa. Maybe thinking too highly of Cozens but there's still plenty of upside there, you also get younger & a more reliable player health-wise.
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So you think that getting an older, often injured player and a guy who was on waivers while adding a second rounder and a depth defenseman to Cozens is a good move for Buffalo?
That take kills me.
Bounces R Way
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Lot of risk for both teams here, which maybe makes it more palatable for each side.
Cozens getting his head on straight in Ottawa is definitely a possibility, but I've never been all that impressed even when he was playing well. I just don't think he's that good.
Norris basically a humpty dumpty situation. Can be an effective player when healthy but the state of his shoulder is going to make it hard for him to be a quality top 6 C in the future.
Cozens getting his head on straight in Ottawa is definitely a possibility, but I've never been all that impressed even when he was playing well. I just don't think he's that good.
Norris basically a humpty dumpty situation. Can be an effective player when healthy but the state of his shoulder is going to make it hard for him to be a quality top 6 C in the future.
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Both players haven't achieved anything in a few years.
I don't think the Sens got better, but I think (and hope) that 2nd rounder allows us to add a player that does (make the Sens better)
BondraTime
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Cozens has 27 ES points
Norris has 18. He has 1 primary assist at even strength this year...
Cozens is one of the most overrated players in the league. Hes had one "decent" season in his 5 years in the league.
And that was the year where everyone on the sabres had a career high. Even Jeff Skinner had 82 points. He has failed to produce and play defence 5 on 5. You cant expect to do anything if hes in your top 6 unless if you have wingers to carry him.
And that was the year where everyone on the sabres had a career high. Even Jeff Skinner had 82 points. He has failed to produce and play defence 5 on 5. You cant expect to do anything if hes in your top 6 unless if you have wingers to carry him.
The cap, upgrade on D (yes it's an upgrade, JBD clears waivers routinely), and the 2nd round pick more than make up for the drop in PP production.
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Some context:
Norris turns 26 in May. The Sabres are the youngest team in the league. They need "older" players.
Gilbert is a borderline NHL defenseman, #8 on a mediocre team's depth chart. He's waiver fodder himself.
tsujimoto74
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The Sabres are 3rd in the NHL in 5-v-5 goal scoring (with a game in hand on the 2 teams ahead of them). Cozens is probably more a product of the team in that regard than the other way around. He has some talents, but he is not a smart hockey player.
Sansbacon
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I’m more bummed about losing Gilbert than Cozens at this point, and 3 years ago I confessed that he was becoming my favorite Sabre in a long time.
When he stripped Bergeron and setup the the game-winner immediately after was one of the best plays I’ve ever seen. He dropped off so much and has been a huge disappointment since then. Seems like a change of scenery kinda deal that could work out well for the Sens, but it wasn’t gonna happen in Buffalo.
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned that I d like to add, is that he has a great shot when open. He seems like a good dude and I wish him the best in Ottawa and wherever his career takes him.
When he stripped Bergeron and setup the the game-winner immediately after was one of the best plays I’ve ever seen. He dropped off so much and has been a huge disappointment since then. Seems like a change of scenery kinda deal that could work out well for the Sens, but it wasn’t gonna happen in Buffalo.
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned that I d like to add, is that he has a great shot when open. He seems like a good dude and I wish him the best in Ottawa and wherever his career takes him.
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Relative to Norris, Dylan is Joe Thornton when it comes to set up ability
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VaporTrail
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Ya, actually half a season..he played well for about a half season with Quinn and Peterka...So Adams backed the armored truck up
Canadienna
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Yeah I agree it's not some slam dunk case, just my opinion.
I like how Cozens can play mean. I know Sabres fans have called him soft and unmotivated, but I would bet on that instinct for violence to come back as he gets older, and with a fresh start on a new team.
Norris is really skilled, and if he gets healthy maybe this is a win-win. They're both good players, I just have this feeling Cozens will become the newest story of the Sabres moving on from a player that they end up regretting. I wanted him on the Habs tbh.
Didnt he let his captain Dahlin getting punch in the face by two players last game and did nada?
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tsujimoto74
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All the guys that have blossomed off the Sabres were good players ON the Sabres. Cozens has been pretty dogshit for 2 years now.
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Norris is healthy.
He's played a much more physical and in-your-face brand of hockey this year and his shoulder is holding up.
He's had some injuries this year, but nothing alarming.
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Got to hand it to the Senators, not too many trades that make your captain publicly cry
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Watching the TSN panel of "experts" discuss this deal immediately after it happened made it clear that outside of Johnson, none of these guys have watched much hockey when the Leafs aren't playing
