OT: Other Sports: Broncos, Nuggets, Rockies, etc...Part VI
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I just don't think Purdys a SB winning QB. He's decent and the team is stacked.... But the QB position is just so important in football and Mahomes is by far and away the best QB in the league.
dahrougem2
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I agree with Purdy probably not being the guy to win you a QB. Funny how SF went from Jimmy G to Jimmy G 2.0 and thought all was solved.
In saying that, the 49ers defense was atrocious today. Gave up 455 yards to an inept KC offensive unit. Mahomes is phenomenal but all season even he struggled to get them going, then they come out and decimate the 49ers and did basically whatever they wanted.
The 49ers DC is going to have A LOT of questions to answer this Summer if he wants to keep his job, which I don't think he will. Shanahan calling timeout so he could fix the potential cover-zero call by Wilks was hilarious.
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He would’ve been if the niners defense did their job the last two drives
The 9ers defense looked like they just got tired in the second half. Kyle needed to call more running plays to give the D a rest, but after halftime, he just kept dialing up the pass. Those 3 and outs were killers. Also, I don't know why they kept trying to run from the i, straight up the middle. You basically have a Ferrari in McCaffrey, but you keep taking him onto the dirt roads. They needed to be running to the outside, opposite from wherever Jones was lined up.
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dahrougem2
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The toss plays seemed to work more often than not, too. McCaffrey was routinely getting 6/7/8 yards on them, yet was getting hammered inside and often getting stopped for no gain or only 1/2 yards.
Shanahan showed, though, why he's always going to be the bridesmaid.
Welp if you needed more proof that the Broncos need to just move the f*** away from Russ, just watch tonight.
Mahomes is not going anywhere and isn't going to regress any time soon. Why would you continue to ridiculously overpay an aging vet who is going to continue to get older and mostly likely worse who can't beat Mahomes, unless he has the flu? You can't.
Your only chance at this point is to start over and hope you can find a guy on the draft, who maybe in 2-3 years can challenge Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Roll the dice and hope you can find your guy, Russ isn't it. Move on from him.
Mahomes is not going anywhere and isn't going to regress any time soon. Why would you continue to ridiculously overpay an aging vet who is going to continue to get older and mostly likely worse who can't beat Mahomes, unless he has the flu? You can't.
Your only chance at this point is to start over and hope you can find a guy on the draft, who maybe in 2-3 years can challenge Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Roll the dice and hope you can find your guy, Russ isn't it. Move on from him.
dahrougem2
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If anything it might actually be more reason to keep Russ and try to suck. Trade away all the guys you can for future draft picks and suck until the rebuild can truly begin.
The rebuild can't wait any longer, they've put it off for years. Russ doesn't suck enough to get you where you need to in the rebuild. Hell find a way to win a few games just like he did this year and you'll get some BS mid pick.
You need to walk away from Russ, and many others. It needs to be torn down and gutted. No reason to wait any longer. Might as well go through the rough years while Mahomes is in his prime because your aren't going to beat him anyways.
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I'm a fan of two sports teams; the Avs and the Chiefs. Watching the difference in management styles between these two teams is striking and frankly maddening.
The Chiefs traded the best WR in football because they trusted that they had the best QB in the league and he could survive without him. They use the assets they got back in that trade to address their biggest need and essentially rebuilt their defense - which is now one of the biggest strengths of their team. They've won literally every super bowl since that trade.
Meanwhile, the Avs stubbornly held onto all their LHD, even giving the 30 year old a gross contract, despite already having the best defenseman in the league and very good defensive depth to go along with him. All while they continue to watch their lack of center depth crater the team.
Avs fan could only dream of cMac having the balls and the brains that Brett Veach has.
The Chiefs traded the best WR in football because they trusted that they had the best QB in the league and he could survive without him. They use the assets they got back in that trade to address their biggest need and essentially rebuilt their defense - which is now one of the biggest strengths of their team. They've won literally every super bowl since that trade.
Meanwhile, the Avs stubbornly held onto all their LHD, even giving the 30 year old a gross contract, despite already having the best defenseman in the league and very good defensive depth to go along with him. All while they continue to watch their lack of center depth crater the team.
Avs fan could only dream of cMac having the balls and the brains that Brett Veach has.
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the Broncos start their prep for the draft this week. Sean Payton is hilarious - dude was interviewed in three different instances of tv/internet/radio and dropped this EXACT same quote to each of three in separate occasions.
the quote was 100% rehearsed and meant to be off cuff but he’s already obviously got a plan. Payton’s definitely got some BB in him when it comes to talking to the media.
the quote was 100% rehearsed and meant to be off cuff but he’s already obviously got a plan. Payton’s definitely got some BB in him when it comes to talking to the media.
First yuck on being a Chiefs fan, but I guess congrats, I won't be a sore loser Broncos fan.
Second your example of Tyreek Hill is spot on. They traded arguably one of the best WRs because they trusted Mahomes could get it done without him. And he has with 2 more Championships.
The Avs have a log jam on defense and no credible offensive depth, mainly 2C, and our moronic GM refuses to trade any of them for help. Making matters worse is we actually have some prospect depth at defense with Malinski, Barhens, Guylayev etc. Whereas offensive prospects is extremely limited with pretty much Ritchie and maybe OO.
It's an utter joke how bad CMac is at reading the room and evaluating the team. CMac and his refusal to trade a DMan is actively hindering any chances we have at a 2nd Cup.
Payton absolutely already knows what he wants. This company line of we haven't really started evaluating is BS. He maybe took a week off after the season and was probably right back at it.
You don't have as much success as he has as a coach by waiting until the Super Bowl is over to start assessing your team and the draft.
I'm just hoping that his plan isn't try and trade everything for Caleb Williams, who Sean is on record last year before he was Broncos coach completely gushing over. WIilliams has a terrible attitude, don't want him anywhere near this team.
Of the top QBs available in the draft the only ones I don't want anywhere near this team are Williams, attitude problem, or Penix, injury issues. Not huge on Nix but I can see the allure and wouldn't slam this pick. Maye, Daniels would be great bit we aren't high enough to draft them without trade.
The guy I'd really go after is JJ McCarthy. He's extremely talented but raw and would need some time to develop. Plus he wins a lot. Think this would be a great pick that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future so to speak to get him as he will most likely be available around 12.
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I'm still trying to understand how the Lions all of a sudden have a football team. Jesus, how long has it been since they've been even remotely relevant? Even during the Barry Sanders era, one of the most ridiculous running backs of all time, they went 74-79.
Wonder if the son will follow in the footsteps of the father and go through defensive coordinators like underwear.
Shanahan never could quite get it completely right when it came to the DC position. He went low-key (Larry Coyer), he went very high-key (Jim Bates, Ray Rhodes) and it just never seemed to work. IMO when he finally fired Coyer, with whom he probably had the most success on the defensive side of the football, that was the beginning of the end of the Mastermind's tenure in Denver.
Ironically, Shanahan won his back-to-back Super Bowls with Greg Robinson as the defensive coordinator, and arguably he was the worst one.
Wouldn't the equivalent to the Tyreek Hill trade be to trade Rants? Chiefs didn't want to pay what Miami ultimately gave him, and we aren't gonna want to pay the 12M that Rants will want after next season. Mostly because he is as lazy as Lehky's Dad said, and he's definitely not "all in" on winning the cup again. If done at the right time, Rants could foster a nice retool of the lineup.
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IMO you could make the argument for either Toews or Rantanen. Both of which arguments I've made ages ago and was promptly lit up for on the trade thread
I know right? My whole life it's been Death, Taxes, and the Detroit Lions sucking every season.
It appears they FINALLY went out and got a competent GM and coach, so, good for them. The nadir was most assuredly Matt Millen, the Mike Milbury/Peter Chiarelli of football. No, I actually think he was much worse, because on top of being absurdly incompetent, Millen was reportedly lazy as f***.
It's a shame with Barry Sanders. And what irks me to no end with them is that they refused to trade him. Like, why? Why would you be so insanely, idiotically spiteful? That trade could've made the Herschel Walker deal look like nothing. They could've built a goddamned dynasty out of that if they did it right. But they just let Sanders retire.
As much as Makar is still the best D in the league, Mack as Mahomes and Rants as Hill makes more sense to me than the comparison with Toews and MakarIMO you could make the argument for either Toews or Rantanen. Both of which arguments I've made ages ago and was promptly lit up for on the trade thread
People are starting to slowly warm up to the Rantanen idea too. I get the ‘you don’t trade 100 point players thing’ but I think we might be a better team having 2 60 point top 6 guys for around the same money than one 100 point one. With how his development has stagnated, much prefer keeping Toews for the window and getting whatever assets Byram can bring in instead
It’s not quite the Cubs winning the World Series level WTF but it’s close (my Grandma lived to 96 went her whole life between their wins). I hate baseball and even I still can’t with that one being something that actually happened
People keep talking about the Devils getting Markstrom but I'll believe it when I see it. It's going to require quite a bit of tapdancing around the cap on NJ's part to say the least.
IMO Fitzy made a huge mistake going for a big ticket item in Meier he didn't even need. The goaltending needed to be shored up, THAT was the priority.
IMO Fitzy made a huge mistake going for a big ticket item in Meier he didn't even need. The goaltending needed to be shored up, THAT was the priority.
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I don’t think their cap situation is still too bad yet. Looks like they should have ~20mil in cap room with only Mercer as a big-ish RFA to sign next year. But they do need to replace Toffoli and McLeod which will eat a chunk of space obviously.
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