OT: Other Sports: Broncos, Nuggets, Rockies, etc...Part VI

[ABasin]

Looks like the Broncos are eating Wilson's entire option bonus dead cap this upcoming season.

So, instead of $35M this season and $49M next season, the new dead cap hits are going to be $53M this season and $32M next season.

 

[Grackle Party]

Looks like the Broncos are eating Wilson's entire option bonus dead cap this upcoming season.

So, instead of $35M this season and $49M next season, the new dead cap hits are going to be $53M this season and $32M next season.

I like this better and Id like to think they have some sort of plan going forward. Need to hit on these drafts and as its been mentioned over and over it all hinges on getting the QB right this year or next

 

[5280]

Yep he sure did ruin Brees.

Payton sucks, didn't you hear?

 

[Pokecheque]

Wong thread.

 

[Bender]

They're almost as hopeless as the Rockies. No talent, idiot coach, idiot GM. The only difference is the Broncos have owners with money, but it doesn't really help until we're out of cap hell.

There are no good QBs available where we're drafting and even if we got one Payton would just ruin him.

Brees was in his sixth season when he got to New Orleans and they had a 25-23 record through his first three seasons with the Saints. The fact that they only got one Super Bowl with a prime Brees is frankly an embarrassment.

Payton is a fraud. Mike McCarthy except also a gigantic piece of garbage as a person.

So on a scale of say, from "I'd love to save Sean Payton from drowning but then I'd have to take my foot off his head" to "I'd love to chop his head off and take a dump down his neck" - how would you say you feel about Sean Payton ?

 

[willy702]

Looks like the Broncos are eating Wilson's entire option bonus dead cap this upcoming season.

So, instead of $35M this season and $49M next season, the new dead cap hits are going to be $53M this season and $32M next season.

And really didn't have to endure much pain. As stated when the RW benching happened the cap pain meant signing no players to extensions so bye Lloyd and bye Jerry, hold on for a bit Pat. As much as I love Simmons (have his jersey), the market for Safeties is so far below $18m that it was common sense to let him go and replace him with a younger guy that gets paid about $7m. Still not sure why they are keeping DJ Jones around, that's surely another one you could get a much cheaper replacement for at a position that has low contract value. And putting this all together, does losing these guys plus Russ feel like the team is going to win a lot fewer games this season? I don't see much change, the win total will largely be driven by how healthy the team stays and how much luck they have in winning close games.

In the end, this kept management from overpaying for mediocre QBs who wouldn't have added much to the team. And as much as we can think RW was overpaid, lots of QBs are getting overpaid. The very best deserve the $50m plus, but the tier below them don't deserve $40m like Cousins is getting, RW was signed for, and a bunch of other middle of the pack QBs get. And come on people love the "Shew" but him getting $15m guaranteed when you are at best a spot starter and more appropriately a quality backup just shows how ridiculous it has gotten. Stidham may never be a top notch QB but can you really say he's worth less than half what the Raiders just shelled out? Or half what Sam Darnold is getting in his 4th chance to prove anything?

 

[Pokecheque]

I dunno, I look at Sean Payton and think, y'know what, he seems like a pretty likable guy.

 

[henchman21]

Seems to me that the NFL has changed so much since Payton was an elite coach... and as much as it would seem that coaching transcends time, I really don't think it does. IE I don't see Phil Jackson as a guy who would probably be an elite NBA coach today... but in his era, there was nobody better. Tom Osborne is arguably a top 5 college football coach ever and certainly one of the best of his time... he'd probably be a very mediocre to bad coach today. I see Payton the same way.

I also find him to be exceedingly arrogant, especially with how he shittalked all last winter and spring. So I don't mind a little reality mushroom stamping him.

 

[sethro109]

Payton sucks, didn't you hear?

With how much he hates Payton, you'd think he killed his grandma

 

[willy702]

Try to make sense of this all.

First I read these and think ok, that's fair value to the player and the team for backups

• Jameis Winston (Signed a one-year, $4 million contract with the Browns)
• Mitch Trubisky (Signed a two-year, $5.25 million contract with the Bills)

Then I see

• Gardner Minshew (Signed a two-year, $25 million contract with the Raiders)
• Sam Darnold (Signed a one-year, $10 million contract with the Vikings)

And think WTF??? Then these hit and I really have to wonder what in the heck considering what they did with the Broncos, plus I'd really love to see what Rypien got from the Bears.

• Joe Flacco (Signed a one-year, $8.7 million contract with the Colts)
• Drew Lock (Signed a one-year, $5 million contract with the Giants)

To me, the QB market is so inefficient and can be downright stupid. Plus the system you run matters but you can always get a relatively good deal if you stay away from the madness of the first few days. I can totally see the Broncos having called Darnold's agent and hearing we are looking for 8 figures and hanging up the phone. I mean really $5m for Lock and $25 million (15m guaranteed) for Minshew??? I bet someone signs Tannehill or Jimmy G for something under $4m. Are either of those guys worse than any of these others?

I'm hoping the two P's are smart and playing Moneyball here. Only thing that concerns me is the nonsense Hill got paid by the Saints. You can get respectable QB play for a reasonable price while you wait for a drafted QB to become a difference maker. And with how many busts or just mediocre efforts teams have gotten from many top 5 selections this seems like an easy way to maximize cap management.

 

[Bender]

With how much he hates Payton, you'd think he killed his grandma

He did!

 

[ABasin]

Seems to me that the NFL has changed so much since Payton was an elite coach... and as much as it would seem that coaching transcends time, I really don't think it does. IE I don't see Phil Jackson as a guy who would probably be an elite NBA coach today... but in his era, there was nobody better. Tom Osborne is arguably a top 5 college football coach ever and certainly one of the best of his time... he'd probably be a very mediocre to bad coach today. I see Payton the same way.

I also find him to be exceedingly arrogant, especially with how he shittalked all last winter and spring. So I don't mind a little reality mushroom stamping him.

I didn't know what that meant. Googled it.

 

[avalanche_country]

I really hate Payton but I’m a Vikings fan. Cheating a hole.

 

[5280]

With how much he hates Payton, you'd think he killed his grandma

Or is a closet Falcons fan.

It is WAY too early to judge Payton’s Broncos’ tenure and don’t think he’s done anything to garner the hate being spewed at him. I don’t get it at all, give him a couple of years at least. He has a good enough history however you want to cherry pick it and was given a certifiable dumpster fire to work with to start.

If I dare say - Broncos fans, me included, have been spoiled over the last while and are lashing out at anything and everything because of current state of affairs.

 

[henchman21]

I didn't know what that meant. Googled it.

Hopefully not at work.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Or is a closet Falcons fan.

It is WAY too early to judge Payton’s Broncos’ tenure and don’t think he’s done anything to garner the hate being spewed at him. I don’t get it at all, give him a couple of years at least. He has a good enough history however you want to cherry pick it and was given a certifiable dumpster fire to work with to start.

If I dare say - Broncos fans, me included, have been spoiled over the last while and are lashing out at anything and everything because of current state of affairs.

Happy, drunk, weeping, cigar chomping Bednar at the parade was a thing to behold. Love your avatar.

 

[ABasin]

Aaron Donald just announced his retirement.

 

[famicommander]

Nuggets are now 11-1 with the loss coming in OT since the break.

 

[Bonzai12]

Nuggets are now 11-1 with the loss coming in OT since the break.

And 5th easiest schedule in the NBA down the home stretch! They are getting hot at the exact right time

 

[Pokecheque]

 

[henchman21]

Don’t know how all of you are watching hockey when moving day at the Players is so good.

 

[famicommander]

Don’t know how all of you are watching hockey when moving day at the Players is so good.

You couldn't pay me to watch golf. I'm watching boxing from now until the Avs game starts.

 

[willy702]

Only thing I wish MPJ did is if he's not hitting jumpers is go crash the glass and get double digit rebounds and easy buckets. If he has that discipline in the playoffs to take what the team needs from him on a given night, how can you beat these guys 4 times in a series?

 

[chet1926]

Lol the Steelers have so little faith in Wilson that they traded for Fields to " back him up", guarantee Fields will be starting by week 5.

Wilson is such a f***ing joke. Knew Tomlin wouldn't risk his winning seasons streak on Wilson.

 

[BobRossColton]

That trade for Fields is definitely something broncos could've afforded


... If they were even trying..