OT: Other Sports: Broncos, Nuggets, Rockies, etc...Part VI

[chet1926]

News flash: Golden child gets upset, throws tantrum, when treated fairly, more at 9

Seriously can he pout any harder. It's not like he hasn't gotten countless favorable calls to go his way over the last 5+ seasons or anything.

It's really pathetic to watch guys who are accustomed to winning and getting every single call cry foul the one time it doesn't go their way.

 

[MonsterMack]

He's bitching about this obvious call? Hope the league starts calling the obvious shit the Chiefs get away with every game.

edit: also, how is it possible for Toney to be this dumb. He literally in front of the center.

 

[Hasbro]

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That's in yen

 

[dahrougem2]

He's bitching about this obvious call? Hope the league starts calling the obvious shit the Chiefs get away with every game.

edit: also, how is it possible for Toney to be this dumb. He literally in front of the center.

There's a reason the Giants let him go so quickly despite his draft pedigree.

 

[MonsterMack]

This dude....this dude doesn't get how fortunate he has been. Can't wait for refs to see this and f*** him over. Golden child era over (fingers crossed)

 

[katfude]

NFL needs a Whiniest Bitch award so Mahomes can add even more hardware

 

[bl02]

This dude....this dude doesn't get how fortunate he has been. Can't wait for refs to see this and f*** him over. Golden child era over (fingers crossed)

Holy shit unreal he said that to Allen. Cry Freaking BABY

 

[MonsterMack]

1-5 to 7-6 is unreal

Texans loss is a real kick in the nuts though

 

[willy702]

If KC loses and we win, we are one game behind them with the tiebreaker in our favor.

But have you seen the Chiefs remaining schedule? If they blow this it will be glorious. But highly doubt it happens. Still they are showing against all the decent teams they play they aren't really a threat with that offensive roster.

 

[willy702]

Amazing what a half way decent coach can do for a team. Especially compared to f***ing Hackett

Payton's offense still leaves a lot to be desired. He gets a lead and he runs the ball almost every time on first down. He just can't help himself. That kind of coaching means you win games you should win against bad teams, like today, but you can't regularly beat good teams when you are scared to make mistakes. On any of the first downs he could have run a play like they did on the last TD where you fake the run it to one side and roll Russ to the other and he'd have an easy 7-15 yards to run plus plenty of time to throw and no traffic to block his view.

We don't even have to think about how much better it is than Hackett for sure but I really think he's holding this team back with just predictable game calls. He makes it even worse when they get to third and long and all his first options are way past the sticks. Part of this is the lack of a reliable catching TE but he could also solve it by running guys out of the slot. I just don't see him doing that though and it makes me wonder how high the ceiling can be.

 

[5280]

Payton's offense still leaves a lot to be desired. He gets a lead and he runs the ball almost every time on first down. He just can't help himself. That kind of coaching means you win games you should win against bad teams, like today, but you can't regularly beat good teams when you are scared to make mistakes. On any of the first downs he could have run a play like they did on the last TD where you fake the run it to one side and roll Russ to the other and he'd have an easy 7-15 yards to run plus plenty of time to throw and no traffic to block his view.

We don't even have to think about how much better it is than Hackett for sure but I really think he's holding this team back with just predictable game calls. He makes it even worse when they get to third and long and all his first options are way past the sticks. Part of this is the lack of a reliable catching TE but he could also solve it by running guys out of the slot. I just don't see him doing that though and it makes me wonder how high the ceiling can be.

That’s why I said halfway decent, I was giving the situation a little wiggle room.

Payton has a good coaching pedigree and was very successful in N.O., but it’s hard to say if it wasn’t all as a result of Brees or at least the combination of the two, ie. Brady and Belichick, and whether that success can be replicated in Denver or not. Who’s to say for sure?

I for one believe in the guy, I just get a calm feeling seeing him on the sidelines. Like shit is going to get done the way it is supposed to be done.

I’ll have to say, he does drive me bonkers with calling first play runs like he does, though. I’ve always hated coaches like that.

It does seem he is getting close to the max out of his current roster which is a huge win in my book. Especially after what we had to endure over the past 5 seasons. I have something to look forward to on Sundays again. I’m happy.

 

[S E P H]

1-5 to 7-6 is unreal

Texans loss is a real kick in the nuts though

Yes, but doesn't it hurt that the Broncos are playing out of this 1st overall bloke? To me, it seems that Denver is becoming the NFL version of the Calgary Flames at this point and are winning games due to a weak division. Tell me if I am wrong because I watched one game all season against the Raiders and it was so hilarious how bad the product was (in that game).

 

[Bonzai12]

My old man used to be a ref - he told me linesmen will say “I’m on the ball” before the snap meaning that they are lined up where the WR and ball and everything else is. If a player isn’t lined up correctly to that linesman then he will repeat it louder and louder until the ball is snapped. If the player doesn’t correct themselves then that’s their fault. And some guys will look over at the linesman pre-snap to make sure they are aligned correctly (this happens very often throughout all football).

Toney is just a moron. It was 100% his fault. There is a “warning” I guess from the linesman but it’s a general call out - it’s not specific to one player. The ref isn’t gonna say “hey #81 get behind the ball”. He’s just gonna shout out that he’s on the ball where the spot is.

 

[willy702]

Yes, but doesn't it hurt that the Broncos are playing out of this 1st overall bloke? To me, it seems that Denver is becoming the NFL version of the Calgary Flames at this point and are winning games due to a weak division. Tell me if I am wrong because I watched one game all season against the Raiders and it was so hilarious how bad the product was (in that game).

Carolina looks set to win one game this year. And they have no reason to tank as they don't own that pick. To me with the talent on this roster, a tank job using a worthless coach like they had last year would still be 4-5 wins at least, so at best a #2 pick but possibly up to around #7. A decent coach and not trying to tank always looked to be in the 8-10 win range, where they seem headed.

With new owners in place getting a good coach tanking was never going to happen. Yes there's a chance the team isn't a serious contender over the rest of Wilson's years here but that's how it goes when there is only one champion and 31 "losers" out there if you choose to see it that way. Its no different than when we were struggling to do something with the long string of mediocre QBs before Wilson and before Manning. Plummer was about as good as we had and even that team was just fringe contender who took advantage of a weak conference for a year or two.

 

[Muffin]

Replay of Mahomes losing it on the ref.

 

[S E P H]

Carolina looks set to win one game this year. And they have no reason to tank as they don't own that pick. To me with the talent on this roster, a tank job using a worthless coach like they had last year would still be 4-5 wins at least, so at best a #2 pick but possibly up to around #7. A decent coach and not trying to tank always looked to be in the 8-10 win range, where they seem headed.

With new owners in place getting a good coach tanking was never going to happen. Yes there's a chance the team isn't a serious contender over the rest of Wilson's years here but that's how it goes when there is only one champion and 31 "losers" out there if you choose to see it that way. Its no different than when we were struggling to do something with the long string of mediocre QBs before Wilson and before Manning. Plummer was about as good as we had and even that team was just fringe contender who took advantage of a weak conference for a year or two.

Thanks for the info. My next question I guess is does it sort of suck that Broncos will finish around a .500 record - give or take a couple wins or losses - considering that the defence probably regresses as the years go along? I hear from my brethren that the Broncos defence is pretty legit and that the offence isn't taking advantage of it.

 

[dahrougem2]

Carolina looks set to win one game this year. And they have no reason to tank as they don't own that pick. To me with the talent on this roster, a tank job using a worthless coach like they had last year would still be 4-5 wins at least, so at best a #2 pick but possibly up to around #7. A decent coach and not trying to tank always looked to be in the 8-10 win range, where they seem headed.

With new owners in place getting a good coach tanking was never going to happen. Yes there's a chance the team isn't a serious contender over the rest of Wilson's years here but that's how it goes when there is only one champion and 31 "losers" out there if you choose to see it that way. Its no different than when we were struggling to do something with the long string of mediocre QBs before Wilson and before Manning. Plummer was about as good as we had and even that team was just fringe contender who took advantage of a weak conference for a year or two.

Ahhhh the days of Jake Plummer, Rod Smith and Ashley Lelie

 

[Hasbro]

Carolina looks set to win one game this year. And they have no reason to tank as they don't own that pick. To me with the talent on this roster, a tank job using a worthless coach like they had last year would still be 4-5 wins at least, so at best a #2 pick but possibly up to around #7. A decent coach and not trying to tank always looked to be in the 8-10 win range, where they seem headed.

With new owners in place getting a good coach tanking was never going to happen. Yes there's a chance the team isn't a serious contender over the rest of Wilson's years here but that's how it goes when there is only one champion and 31 "losers" out there if you choose to see it that way. Its no different than when we were struggling to do something with the long string of mediocre QBs before Wilson and before Manning. Plummer was about as good as we had and even that team was just fringe contender who took advantage of a weak conference for a year or two.

Pretty big drop off when yo move to the third best QB in Bronco history.

 

[Bonzai12]

Thanks for the info. My next question I guess is does it sort of suck that Broncos will finish around a .500 record - give or take a couple wins or losses - considering that the defence probably regresses as the years go along? I hear from my brethren that the Broncos defence is pretty legit and that the offence isn't taking advantage of it.

If the Broncos get to 10 wins they will probably get into the playoffs.

10 wins isn’t an automatic (I think maybe the dolphins got 10 and missed in 2020), but the majority of 10 win teams always get in historically.

 

[Pokecheque]

Payton's offense still leaves a lot to be desired. He gets a lead and he runs the ball almost every time on first down. He just can't help himself. That kind of coaching means you win games you should win against bad teams, like today, but you can't regularly beat good teams when you are scared to make mistakes. On any of the first downs he could have run a play like they did on the last TD where you fake the run it to one side and roll Russ to the other and he'd have an easy 7-15 yards to run plus plenty of time to throw and no traffic to block his view.

We don't even have to think about how much better it is than Hackett for sure but I really think he's holding this team back with just predictable game calls. He makes it even worse when they get to third and long and all his first options are way past the sticks. Part of this is the lack of a reliable catching TE but he could also solve it by running guys out of the slot. I just don't see him doing that though and it makes me wonder how high the ceiling can be.

It's obvious he doesn't trust Russ, and I can't say I blame him there. Also doesn't help that he doesn't have a legit star Tight End, and while Courtland Sutton has done a lot to redeem himself of late, Jerry Jeudy continues to be a train wreck. I understand Mims wasn't exactly stellar last game but he's just a rookie.

The Broncos' gameplan is to get it done with defense and just have the offense do enough to win games.

Payton is normally not conservative, that's his rep at least. So I'm hopeful once he gets a legit quarterback and a better 2nd wideout option, he'll open the playbook a lot more.

 

[famicommander]

KC and Jacksonville have super soft schedules so they won't be caught. So that leaves Denver, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Indianapolis, Houston, and Cleveland fighting for 3 wild card spots.

Browns: 8-5 (Bears, @Texans, Jets, @Bengals)
Steelers: 7-6 (@Colts, Bengals, @Seahawks, @Ravens)
Colts: 7-6 (Steelers, @Falcons, Raiders, Texans)
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Texans: 7-6 (@Titans, Browns, Titans, @Colts)
Broncos: 7-6 (@Lions, Patriots, Chargers, @raiders)
Bengals: 7-6 (Vikings, @Steelers, @Chiefs, Browns)
Bills: 7-6 (Cowboys, @Chargers, Patriots, @Dolphins)

Broncos have a pretty easy schedule besides Detroit and most of the teams we're in the chase with have games against each other. It would be really hard for the Broncos to win 10 and miss the playoffs.

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

Ahhhh the days of Jake Plummer, Rod Smith and Ashley Lelie

Plummer was awesome. Only Broncos jersey I've ever bought.

 

[Bonzai12]

Strawther 22 pts in 22 mins. Can’t play d tho


Drake Maye declares tonight

 

[willy702]

Strawther 22 pts in 22 mins. Can’t play d tho


Drake Maye declares tonight

Drake Maye is going to break some fan bases collective hearts. Thats going to be example one of a guy with all the tools and zero heart. I can't decide if he'll be more Jeff George or Jay Cutler.

 

[ABasin]

Carolina looks set to win one game this year. And they have no reason to tank as they don't own that pick. To me with the talent on this roster, a tank job using a worthless coach like they had last year would still be 4-5 wins at least, so at best a #2 pick but possibly up to around #7. A decent coach and not trying to tank always looked to be in the 8-10 win range, where they seem headed.

With new owners in place getting a good coach tanking was never going to happen. Yes there's a chance the team isn't a serious contender over the rest of Wilson's years here but that's how it goes when there is only one champion and 31 "losers" out there if you choose to see it that way. Its no different than when we were struggling to do something with the long string of mediocre QBs before Wilson and before Manning. Plummer was about as good as we had and even that team was just fringe contender who took advantage of a weak conference for a year or two.

Doesn’t Chicago have Carolina’s 1st round pick?