henchman21
Mr. Meeseeks
- Feb 24, 2012
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I don't think they should win 10 games, and I doubt they will even be .500 this year... just saying that going .500 or even 9-8 is not good enough. The 12 win year looks more like a fluke than the expectation. I don't think Payton is the worst coach or any where near it... but he has to prove he can win without Brees. That is still very much in the air. Payton can potentially show that, but nothing to this point shows that he can.Never said it was. Has he had a 12 win team without Brees? Do you think the Broncos last year or this year should win 10 games? His last year with NOLA he went 9-8 with QB's like Winston/Book/Siemian/Hill. He went 9-3 with Winston/Hill starting at QB.
I'm not even a massive Payton fan but show me the coaches that can rip off 10 wins with garbage rosters. I'm more worried about his roster building at this point honestly. It'll be a massive draft for him this year.
Andy Reid can flat out win anywhere. Many of his Eagles teams were lacking, and were still winning. His worst year with KC has been 9 wins, even with Alex Smith as his QB. With a great QB, he's winning Super Bowls. Without great QBs, he's winning divisions and advancing in the playoffs.