OT: Other Sports 79

[RayP]

That could be a steal of a deal for Atlanta.

 

[Mrfenn92]

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Wish the Sox had a stud 3B to build around as key cornerstone of franchise

Haven't had that since Ventura (All due respect to Crede but he was no Ventura)

Moncada is a better player than Crede.
You won't admit it though as it goes against your agenda.

 

[madgoat33]

Moncada is a better player than Crede.
You won't admit it though as it goes against your agenda.

Not a high bar to clear.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Not a high bar to clear.

Moncada has already matched Crede's entire career in WAR and is 27.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Moncada has already matched Crede's entire career in WAR and is 27.

Crede's entire career only consisted of 888 games. For reference, Moncada has around 600. Crede essentially played one more season of games, and Crede's war is actually like 1.5 WAR better as of this moment, according to baseball reference.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on Moncada being better than Crede, and he will end up being the better player over the course of his career, but don't misrepresent things.

 

[madgoat33]

Moncada has already matched Crede's entire career in WAR and is 27.

Joe crede played in 10 seasons and was an above average offensive player in two of them. Simply put, he was not good, pretty much just a replacement level guy.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Hahn picks up vet Lefty for BP

 

[madgoat33]

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Crede's entire career only consisted of 888 games. For reference, Moncada has around 600. Crede essentially played one more season of games, and Crede's war is actually like 1.5 WAR better as of this moment, according to baseball reference.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on Moncada being better than Crede, and he will end up being the better player over the course of his career, but don't misrepresent things.

I was using fWAR(fangraphs) in which they have an identical mark of 13.1.

I looked it up.

Just FYI nobody uses bWAR.

 

[madgoat33]

I personally think bwar is better, but thats just me

 

[ChiHawks10]

I was using fWAR(fangraphs) in which they have an identical mark of 13.1.

I looked it up.

Just FYI nobody uses bWAR.

Lol. There's the KBS random condescension we've all come to know and hate.

Plenty of people use bWAR, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with using it, but by all means, carry on. Imagine arguing about something simply because you used a different website, even though I actually agreed with your main point. How about say fWAR when you're talking about it?

 

[IU Hawks fan]

Generally:

bWAR is best for position players for historical reference perspective
fWAR is best for position players as a future performance indicator
WARP is best for pitchers

bWAR is trash for pitchers, since it's based on ERA (which means team defense affects it). fWAR is better since it's based on FIP, but WARP is the best, it's based on their Deserved Run Average metric.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

2nd breaking ball from Kopech that is launched into stands

2-0 Royals as Sox are lifeless tonight



Looks like Sox won't be getting any SP help

Good spot for Q to land in

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Generally:

bWAR is best for position players for historical reference perspective
fWAR is best for position players as a future performance indicator
WARP is best for pitchers

bWAR is trash for pitchers, since it's based on ERA (which means team defense affects it). fWAR is better since it's based on FIP, but WARP is the best, it's based on their Deserved Run Average metric.

Bingo.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Bingo.

Were we not talking about historical reference? Comparing Joe Crede's past career to Moncada's past years?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Garcia and Zavala with hits to start 7th

1st and 3rd with no outs

Sox need to get some runs here

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Sheets sacrifice brings Garcia home

2-1 Royals

Now our big bats need to do something and not go quietly into night

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

And as always, the sox stars disappoint

Inning ends with Sox stranding 2 more runners

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Were we not talking about historical reference? Comparing Joe Crede's past career to Moncada's past years?

Not when fWAR data is available.

bWAR is more for comparing guys who played the majority or all of their careers in the 20th century with modern players.

 

[Sarava]

At least the Sox had a seat the table for Ohtani talks.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Sox big go down silently in 8th as well

Time to trade some of these so called "Stars"

Grandal at this point may be the most worthless player in MLB

He can't hit and he can't field

 

[madgoat33]

Yasmani's obp is higher than his slugging. You know how hard that is to do?

 

[Ace Rothstein]

At least the Sox had a seat the table for Ohtani talks.

A seat at the table, the Rick Hahn special.

Yasmani's obp is higher than his slugging. You know how hard that is to do?

He has 5 extra base hits all season. He's been atrocious.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

And Anderson hits into double play to end game

Just pathetic

Sox fall back to 3 GB behind as both Twins and Guardians walk away with W's