Toggle sidebar

OT: Other Sports 79

  • Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates
Status
Not open for further replies.
madgoat33 said:
The sox have to have one of the highest paid bp's in baseball. Just goes to show the poor allocation of resources by hahn. Hes liable to trade away any remaining assets the sox do have for more bp arms too.
Click to expand...

I get all that but what’s up with our pitching coach? Why does all this talent suddenly start sucking under his coaching? Why does he have a job at this point?
 
SimpleJack said:
I get all that but what’s up with our pitching coach? Why does all this talent suddenly start sucking under his coaching? Why does he have a job at this point?
Click to expand...
The idea of loading up dollars in the bullpen is usually a bad idea. Relief pitchers in general are less consistent than starters. They will be lights out one season, then garbage the next season. Look at the Sox top 4 paid relievers. In general Hendriks and Graveman have been good, while Bummer and Kelly have been useless.

Some of those dollars could of been used to sign Kyle Schwarber for example. Or many other potential signings.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kaners Bald Spot and Pez68
Sarava said:
The idea of loading up dollars in the bullpen is usually a bad idea. Relief pitchers in general are less consistent than starters. They will be lights out one season, then garbage the next season. Look at the Sox top 4 paid relievers. In general Hendriks and Graveman have been good, while Bummer and Kelly have been useless.

Some of those dollars could of been used to sign Kyle Schwarber for example. Or many other potential signings.
Click to expand...

Plus, you can always find good relievers out of nowhere. Some of the best relievers tend to be guys trying to be starters that get stuck in the pen.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kaners Bald Spot
Was trying to think of a realistic offer for Soto:

Eloy, Sheets, Crochett, Montgomery, and one of Colas/Mena.

I think that’s close. But probably still not enough. If we swapped Eloy for Robert or Crochett for Kopech/Cease I think that would get it done. But I wouldn’t wanna do that. The Sox can offer some very nice major leaguers, but really don’t have enough as far as prospects goes. So that’s why you gotta offer multiple major leaguers AND multiple top prospects. And as I said even that might not be enough.

Sarava said:
The idea of loading up dollars in the bullpen is usually a bad idea. Relief pitchers in general are less consistent than starters. They will be lights out one season, then garbage the next season. Look at the Sox top 4 paid relievers. In general Hendriks and Graveman have been good, while Bummer and Kelly have been useless.

Some of those dollars could of been used to sign Kyle Schwarber for example. Or many other potential signings.
Click to expand...
Lol….once again….I understand all of that. My question is about our hitting coach and where he fits in all of this? Because it’s not just our relievers that have underperformed, the starting rotation has also been playing below standard.
 
Sarava said:
The idea of loading up dollars in the bullpen is usually a bad idea. Relief pitchers in general are less consistent than starters. They will be lights out one season, then garbage the next season. Look at the Sox top 4 paid relievers. In general Hendriks and Graveman have been good, while Bummer and Kelly have been useless.

Some of those dollars could of been used to sign Kyle Schwarber for example. Or many other potential signings.
Click to expand...

Deadhorse. We've been over this a 100 times, their whole strategy was to add bullpen help because they're short term deals. They were never signing a right fielder to a 4-year deal, for instance, they're saving that spot for Colas or Cespedes (clear who is winning that race now).

Team has too many 1B/DHs types as is, but yeah, they should've signed Schwarber haha. Big fan of him and his power, but it doesn't solve a need as much as you think, they really need someone who can play RF well.
 
Last edited:
SimpleJack said:
Was trying to think of a realistic offer for Soto:

Eloy, Sheets, Crochett, Montgomery, and one of Colas/Mena.

I think that’s close. But probably still not enough. If we swapped Eloy for Robert or Crochett for Kopech/Cease I think that would get it done. But I wouldn’t wanna do that. The Sox can offer some very nice major leaguers, but really don’t have enough as far as prospects goes. So that’s why you gotta offer multiple major leaguers AND multiple top prospects. And as I said even that might not be enough.


Lol….once again….I understand all of that. My question is about our hitting coach and where he fits in all of this? Because it’s not just our relievers that have underperformed, the starting rotation has also been playing below standard.
Click to expand...
My point more or less was that you get what you get with bullpens, and you may as well not spend a fortune on it. Because you're probably going to get similar results as teams spending nickels on it. And that's been true so far.

I would judge Katz more on the starter's performance. And maybe someone would want to pick that apart, given how bad a or inconsistent a few of the guys have been. But some of them have been really good - like Cease, Cueto and Kopech.
 
IU Hawks fan said:
Lynn & Giolito are both down velocity. That falls more on health/training/conditioning than it does coaching.
Click to expand...
Yea, unless katz is telling them to throw at 85%, he really has nothing to do with lynn and gio throwing like 2mph below where they were a year and a hakf ago.
 
AF3FF3B9-A95E-4B4B-AB60-68CCE55FF85C.jpeg

From fansided
 
IU Hawks fan said:
Lynn & Giolito are both down velocity. That falls more on health/training/conditioning than it does coaching.
Click to expand...

This makes sense. We already know how piss poor our strength and conditioning is as a team. The trainers must not do a proper job, our players are constantly getting injured and showing signs of fatigue as if they aren’t in shape.

Blackhawkswincup said:
I would like to see Q come back

We need SP help and he should be affordable enough that Sox even with awful system can afford him
Click to expand...

This would be a solid addition, as would Chafin from DET. Get those 2 plus one more lefty reliever and we’ll be set. Set for another first round exit. LOL jk….or am i….i don’t even know anymore.
 
And Giolito down 3 runs already after 2 innings.. And of course Sox offense akso off to Rocky start=putrid..
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Leury reminds me of Neifi Perez in the way that you can't understand why he plays so God damn always.
Click to expand...
Tony
La
Russa.
Leury is by far the worst sox player i can remember who plays as much as he does. He plays 7 positions poorly and can't hit for shit from either side of the plate. Truly the most well rounded awful player of all time.
 
madgoat33 said:
Tony
La
Russa.
Leury is by far the worst sox player i can remember who plays as much as he does. He plays 7 positions poorly and can't hit for shit from either side of the plate. Truly the most well rounded awful player of all time.
Click to expand...
It's his shit baseball I.Q. for me. Say what you will about Yolmer Sanchez for example, but that guy was a very smart baseball player. Leury is De Aza levels of dumb.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom