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Kaners Bald Spot said:
It depends on if there are non-negotiable aspects to it. At least in my mind, something can be a fair offer but still unacceptable. Deal breakers exist. Right now, for Soto/Boras not starting with a 5 is a deal breaker.
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I want to see what the market will offer is a totally understandable mindset. It doesn't make 440 million a "non serious" offer.
 
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Kaners Bald Spot said:
It's only a serious offer if it has a reasonable chance of getting accepted.

That offer had zero chance of getting accepted, hence non-serious.

As a matter of fact, I don't think Nats ownership would have even made that offer if they didn't know it had zero chance of getting accepted.
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I've sat in on a minor level of these meetings. I've had to persuade people that less per hour is worth keeping existing healthcare benefits. I get paid a monthly stipend to do so. I'm VERY pro-labor.

Soto is gambling on his future worth. That's his right. Wish him luck. It doesn't mean the number offered isn't serious.
 
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ChiHawks10 said:
Again... your original argument was that it isn't a "serious offer" for him. Which is absolute assclown nonsense, as has been pointed out to you by numerous people.

Again... you say something ridiculous, then change your argument up to be something completely different later on. Again, this is why you need to stop and think before you type. Something I've been telling you to do for what... 3-4+ years now? You just can't help yourself.

If you had led with your later points, this wouldn't even be a debate. The second you called the largest offer of guaranteed money in MLB history "not serious" no one was going to take you seriously, and no one was going to pay much attention to anything else you had to say in the discussion.
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This has been my issue the entire time, gotta get better. A lot of times I don't realize the omission of important points until later, and getting accused of moving goalposts is frustrating because my clarification point is the source of the entire point.

I guess I have "clickbaity" points sometimes that obscure the rational stuff that I'm actually trying to get across.

Like I should have led with "that offer was never going to be accepted because Soto/Boras are intent on attempting to get the first $500M contract" then none of this crap would have happened.
 
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Kaners Bald Spot said:
At this point it's well known that they're chasing a $500M contract. He may not get it, but damn if he's not going to try.


It's only a serious offer if it has a reasonable chance of getting accepted.

That offer had zero chance of getting accepted, hence non-serious.

As a matter of fact, I don't think Nats ownership would have even made that offer if they didn't know it had zero chance of getting accepted.
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The bolded is illogical.
 
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This is like the White Sox Machado offer…. One they made just so they can say they tried but knew there was very little chance he’d accept.
 
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