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Couple of entertaining golf tournaments televised this past weekend, for those who follow golf......and I'm not referring to those goofs on the LIV crap; which McElroy seemed to take a shot at after winning yesterday.
 
plasmonresonance said:
Couple of entertaining golf tournaments televised this past weekend, for those who follow golf......and I'm not referring to those goofs on the LIV crap; which McElroy seemed to take a shot at after winning yesterday.
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What’s the deal with this LIV thing?

I’ve only seen headlines here and there but am curious to what their motivation is to throw hundreds of millions at these golfers is.
 
Kaners Bald Spot said:
This is a very good post.

Now that I'm not super pissed anymore, I don't think the window is completely closed either, but the position players the Sox have depended on to be stars(Robert/Eloy/Moncada/Vaughn) absolutely have to be healthy and better or else their ceiling is getting bounced in the ALDS. A guy or two from that list absolutely has to reach 5+WAR.

I have faith in Kopech continuing to develop into the ace that they need him to be. Cease has an outside chance, but idk if he’s ever going to have the command to be a TOR starter. Giolito has regressed this year and Lynn hasn't pitched yet. I'm not sure I want them to sign Giolito when his stuff has declined considerably and his peripherals are terrible in everything other than swing and miss/K%.

I'm done being angry this year about the underperformance.
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You cannot have the 3-4 hitters not hitting for power and not driving in runs...


Abreu 1 RBI last 8GP...0 HR....only 2 HR last 16GP and onlyv5RBI= massive massive fail from cleanup spot.


Luis Robert alkeged suoerstar and MVP candidate=massive failure...0 HR in June (11GP)...only 4 RBI in these lastc11 played...only 1 RBI last 6GP ....in fact 0HR in 14 straight games and only 4RBI in last 13GP.

Massive fail in the #3spit.


Power failure +no clutch from these 2 who were counted on borrowed but have becobe futile..



Sox batting lineup notcscaribg anyopps team..

Only Mendick and Burger providing key offense..

Sox rely so mich on the opps for walks and for bad fielding pkays to extend scoring ..


Tge lineup cannot be counted on for enough power and enough scoring with men on base..

Moncada useless.. Abreu failing to drive in runs.. Robert not only power failure but flying at too many bad pichescoutvof strike zone.


Just awfully disappointing.


Sox pitching...akso massively disappointing...relief not as good as supposed to be...starters...Galileo throwing cream puffs...fastball velocity and accuracy down...cannot get past 5 innings...Cease ceases up when facing adversity in the 1 big inning opps always get hom I trouble ...can't get then to 8th inning with low runs.


Lunn coming back but was shell shocked I AAA so don't expect moch.

Season looks over already.


Also home record not great.

Not off to a good start vs the "easier part 0fvthe schedule" given the 2/3lostcto Texas.

Throw in injury bad luck..but still need more from hittersxandvoutcjers who are i the lineup and who they cou Ted on for better than this ...failing at crucial points.
 
Sarava said:
I agree that Kelly is a fantastic reliever, and probably still will be once he's eventually healthy. However, he was signed while already injured. I guess the further question might be, could some of the funds used for Graveman and Kelly of been used for 2B or RF? Especially given the big dollars already invested in Hendriks and to a lesser extent, Bummer. Many teams with a fraction of the dollars committed to their bullpen are getting a far better performance than the Sox are from theirs.

Harrison, I respectfully don't agree with you on that one. But you guys have heard me complain about that signing since it happened. He stunk in Oakland last year. Stunk his other time in the AL (Detroit). And he turns 35 in the middle of this season. Who didn't see regression from signing an aging journeyman coming off a terrible second half? The Sox don't have a good enough offense to accept a solid defensive player that cant hit.

Regarding large signings. The only thing I'd say is, a Manny Machado or Bryce Harper sure would look good in our lineup right now, don't you think? But your never going to land players like that if you don't sign free agents for more than 80 mil, or whatever the Sox top contract currently is. You can save the money for your own guys if that's the route. Unfortunately, at this time, Tim Anderson is the only player we have sniffing superstar status. Remember a few years ago when it looked like we might have 3 or 4? So in this case, I'd probably cut the Sox some slack and agree with you. They probably expected to have some big contracts to sign going forward from homegrown talent, more so than are panning out at least to this point.

To end this long post - the rebuild is not going well this year. We don't need to be acting like it's completely ruined (clears throat...KBS/Jack). But they need to alter the course. Get rid of TLR. Move some of that money from the bullpen to filling holes in the lineup. How about a new hitting coach who doesn't teach guys to hit groundballs constantly? Maybe that's a way of helping Eloy, Robert or Moncada? Hmm.

And finally - there does seem to be some nice surprises in the Sox system developing this season. It's not all terrible. They can fix this and make the rebuild work still.
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I have never once said the rebuild was “completely ruined”. Don’t lump me in with that nonsense just because I’m critical of where things are in 2022. You’ve gotta give Cease, Kopech, Robert, Eloy, Vaughn, etc a few more years.
 
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Sarava said:
I agree that Kelly is a fantastic reliever, and probably still will be once he's eventually healthy. However, he was signed while already injured. I guess the further question might be, could some of the funds used for Graveman and Kelly of been used for 2B or RF? Especially given the big dollars already invested in Hendriks and to a lesser extent, Bummer. Many teams with a fraction of the dollars committed to their bullpen are getting a far better performance than the Sox are from theirs.

Harrison, I respectfully don't agree with you on that one. But you guys have heard me complain about that signing since it happened. He stunk in Oakland last year. Stunk his other time in the AL (Detroit). And he turns 35 in the middle of this season. Who didn't see regression from signing an aging journeyman coming off a terrible second half? The Sox don't have a good enough offense to accept a solid defensive player that cant hit.

Regarding large signings. The only thing I'd say is, a Manny Machado or Bryce Harper sure would look good in our lineup right now, don't you think? But your never going to land players like that if you don't sign free agents for more than 80 mil, or whatever the Sox top contract currently is. You can save the money for your own guys if that's the route. Unfortunately, at this time, Tim Anderson is the only player we have sniffing superstar status. Remember a few years ago when it looked like we might have 3 or 4? So in this case, I'd probably cut the Sox some slack and agree with you. They probably expected to have some big contracts to sign going forward from homegrown talent, more so than are panning out at least to this point.

To end this long post - the rebuild is not going well this year. We don't need to be acting like it's completely ruined (clears throat...KBS/Jack). But they need to alter the course. Get rid of TLR. Move some of that money from the bullpen to filling holes in the lineup. How about a new hitting coach who doesn't teach guys to hit groundballs constantly? Maybe that's a way of helping Eloy, Robert or Moncada? Hmm.

And finally - there does seem to be some nice surprises in the Sox system developing this season. It's not all terrible. They can fix this and make the rebuild work still.
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His batting average was like 70 points higher than it currently is. If he was batting .250-.270 no one would be complaining, honestly. Which comes back to coaching, IMO. The hitting coach is garbage... their plate approach for this entire team is f***ing awful. They've essentially all regressed in their hitting, and to me, that's not just a coincidence, or a situation where they're all just slumping. Something was fundamentally changed by this coaching staff that is impacting pretty much the entire team's hitting.
 
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You know it's bad when I'm likely to think "oof, this is going to be a tough series" basically every time I look at the Cubs schedule...
 
Lynn with poor stuff tonight

3-2 Tigers and they are making contact with everything he throws

Its first start so cant expect much but at this rate he wont be in game long as he is at nearly 40 pitches here in 2nd
 
And Lynn is throwing tantrum in dugout after that inning

Players/coaches trying to settle him down

Not good sign for coming inning him losing control of his emotions in dugout
 
Blackhawkswincup said:
And Lynn is throwing tantrum in dugout after that inning

Players/coaches trying to settle him down

Not good sign for coming inning him losing control of his emotions in dugout
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Pretty typical for the Sox these days who are quickly getting the rep of being unlikable as well as massive underachievers. Whether it's whining about nonexistent cheating, giving the finger, throwing tantrums, it's all becoming the norm under this train wreck.

I hate road games, mainly with these two twerps in the booth. At least Stone tells it like it is without trying to do a comedy routine every night.
 
southsideIrish said:
Pretty typical for the Sox these days who are quickly getting the rep of being unlikable as well as massive underachievers. Whether it's whining about nonexistent cheating, giving the finger, throwing tantrums, it's all becoming the norm under this train wreck.

I hate road games, mainly with these two twerps in the booth. At least Stone tells it like it is without trying to do a comedy routine every night.
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Stone does not tell it like it is. Quite the contrary, he's state propaganda.
 
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The rebroadcast of the game the other night conveniently didnt include the intentional walk. NBCSC claimed it was pure coincidence, but that was a pivotal moment of the game, why would that get cut? Jerry's network is trying to bury the truth about his incompetent buddy.
 
Gutsy effort to take lead and Lynn now coming out as BP comes in to try and get out of danger

This would be big confidence boost if Sox can manage rest of way and hold on
 
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