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[Drivesaitl]

Just watched this new doc, out on Netflix last week.

‘Poisoned: The Dirty Truth About Your Food’: Everything You Need to Know

The documentary unwraps the stomach-churning flaws in America’s food industry.

www.netflix.com

We consume a lot of fresh vegetables in our home (not uncommon to just eat salads for multiple days on end), 12 months of the year. Right now we are fortunate because we have our garden produce to rely in but come later in the fall, we have to rely on the leafy green industry of Yuma AZ and Salinas CA. I always wondered how safe that food source was, this doc confirms where I was leaning. We eat a lot of chicken as well. Ugh. Going to have to rethink my diet. Maybe beef jerky and Cheezies isn’t so bad after all…

We eat substantially from our garden all year long. We freeze something like 180 freezer bags a year to last us through the winter. We eat direct from our garden from June to October. We have Onions, potatoes even tomatoes last till Christmas or beyond and preserves and such. We commonly make meals prepared as well and frozen taking advantage of a garden of plenty. We're getting to around the point that 50% of what we consume is from garden. What a difference it makes in the wallet as well. Nothing like having already prepared large meals to heat up in winter when you may not be feeling like cooking.

Just a note as well that we have never used manure. Don't have to. We compost, we buy compost, we fertilize, but no manure touches our garden. Everything requires much more washing and waste of water with use of manure. just don't like shit being on everything. heh

Plus for neighborly relations we give food away to anybody we know on the block. They return the favor. For instance we don't have apple tree, multiple other people do so just informal sharing of bounty.

I laugh at some of these eco wizards propping the 100 mile diet and feeling so forward thinking. In our neighborhood we have the one block diet. Other neighborhoods have benefit of community gardens which really should be used more than they are.

This was nice though: The mouth got what she deserved.

"I mean, this is like a sick joke. For me personally, this is like dark comedy that I missed a penalty," Rapinoe said as she blinked back tears. "This is the balance to the beautiful side of the game. I think it can be cruel."

I might have to watch the game afterall. Sorry that I missed it. heh. Seeing Rapinoe upset alone would be worth it. Is she worth it? lol

 

[brentashton]

We eat substantially from our garden all year long. We freeze something like 180 freezer bags a year to last us through the winter. We eat from our garden from June to October. We have Onions, potatoes even tomatoes last till Christmas or beyond and preserves and such. We commonly make meals prepared as well taking advantage of a garden of plenty. We're getting to around the point that 50% of what we consume is from garden. What a difference it makes in the wallet as well.

Plus for neighborly relations we give food away to anybody we know on the block. They return the favor. For instance we don't have apple tree, multiple other people do so just informal sharing of bounty.

I laugh at some of these eco wizards propping the 100 mile diet and feeling so forward thinking. In our neighborhood we have the one block diet. Other neighborhoods have benefit of community gardens which really should be used more than they are.


I might have to watch the game afterall. Sorry that I missed it. heh. Seeing Rapinoe upset alone would be worth it. Is she worth it? lol

We do similar. We also supplement certain produce from local Hutterite colony and preserve as our garden isn’t that big . Just finished last week doing dill pickles, bread and butter and relish. Bought 125lbs of pickling cucumbers from the colony. Been doing that for 10-15 years now. This year we have an abundance of tomatoes so we will be able to make a lot of salsa, canned tomatoes for use in soups, with pasta etc.. I also have pepper plants and a few jalapeño plants that are going crazy this year with fruit. Garden has been good (wxcept for peas for some reason).

Serious q, with all the preserving you do aside, what do you do for lettuce and greens in the winter though?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Couple notes on gardening. Every year we find little improvements. I wish I took notes about my parents gardening tips. They knew some of what I need to know, but in other ways I look after some plants better and more varied, even getting into growing grapes here.

Anyway sometimes we would get the blackrot on bottom of large tomatoes. We looked it up and recommended that you put some bone meal on and around plant roots when planting. Like magic no rot this year. Perfect tomatoes and most abundant. Been paying more attention as well to specific fertilizer needs of each veggie. Not all the same, and we've advanced from Magic grow. heh. We now stock like 4 different mixes of fertilizer depending on needs of plant.

Another tip is our lettuce always grew too thick and would bolt. We've been thinning it out, preventing lettuce rows from getting too thick or tall, and well using it a lot to keep it from bolting. We have 6 families here supplied in lettuce just from one 9ft row. We're trying to encourage gardening in the whole neighborhood.

 

[Drivesaitl]

We do similar. We also supplement certain produce from local Hutterite colony and preserve as our garden isn’t that big . Just finished last week doing dill pickles, bread and butter and relish. Bought 125lbs of pickling cucumbers from the colony. Been doing that for 10-15 years now. This year we have an abundance of tomatoes so we will be able to make a lot of salsa, canned tomatoes for use in soups, with pasta etc.. I also have pepper plants and a few jalapeño plants that are going crazy this year with fruit. Garden has been good (wxcept for peas for some reason).

Serious q, with all the preserving you do aside, what do you do for lettuce and greens in the winter though?

Swiss chard can be picked directly from garden even under snowfall. In fact its best if you get a big insulation dump of snow before it gets too cold. Chard is amazingly resilient. You can dig for some under snow cover and they are fine to eat, cook. People, animals have been doing just this for eons. Preserved food source can often be found under snow cover.

As far as what we eat for greens in winter we freeze a lot of the chard already cooked then flash frozen. We have tons of it. We also freeze up some beet greens for variety. We just don't have any need for lettuce greens in winter as I don't find it to be much of a winter type food anyway. Salad greens isn't really a food group so we wouldn't be lacking in anything nutritionally. Pickled beans and Picked Carrots or beets, stuff like that kind of satisfy that cold vegetable kind of craving if you get it.

This year we got Bell Peppers, Hungarian Wax hot peppers and Banana peppers. All producing a plenty except a few of our hot peppers died, wilted, which never happened to us before. Still don't know what it was, I suspect the containers they were in did not drain enough. Peppers like some dry, but also not for too long. Have to have the right pots or drainage.

Just another hint for gardeners. Do what many parents did. Hit up the garden shops right away, don't wait. Plant early as you can and if you show up day or two after garden shops open you'll find eveything you're looking for. Early birds get the best variety, and healthiest plants. These places get picked out fast. Also plant before May long weekend. People should be planting seed soon as the ground can take it and is dry enough. We've seeded in April, quite often. People wonder why our garden is up a month before anybody else.

 

[rboomercat90]

Netherlands moves on after beating South Africa 2-0, the Dutch had two goals called back but their second goal was a huge gaffe by the South African goalie.

USA is out after losing to Sweden on penalty kicks. The USA dominated play but the Swedish goalie played out of her mind good. A bit of controversy on the winning goal as the USA goalie appeared to have stopped the penalty kick but replay review said the ball had just crossed the goal line.

I’m thrilled beyond belief that the Americans lost but they got screwed on that penalty replay. I can’t tell on that cartoon replay that they showed that the ball is even over the line. Even if you used a microscope to find some space then it certainly wasn’t conclusive. I’ve been on many rants the last few years how video review adds very little to the game and is ruining sports, this was another example. What a shame that an exciting game like that one was is decided like that.

 

[Beerfish]

I agree about the replay from the one angle I saw it looked like a sliver of the ball was still on the line.

 

[brentashton]

Swiss chard can be picked directly from garden even under snowfall. In fact its best if you get a big insulation dump of snow before it gets too cold. Chard is amazingly resilient. You can dig for some under snow cover and they are fine to eat, cook. People, animals have been doing just this for eons. Preserved food source can often be found under snow cover.

As far as what we eat for greens in winter we freeze a lot of the chard already cooked then flash frozen. We have tons of it. We also freeze up some beet greens for variety. We just don't have any need for lettuce greens in winter as I don't find it to be much of a winter type food anyway. Salad greens isn't really a food group so we wouldn't be lacking in anything nutritionally. Pickled beans and Picked Carrots or beets, stuff like that kind of satisfy that cold vegetable kind of craving if you get it.

This year we got Bell Peppers, Hungarian Wax hot peppers and Banana peppers. All producing a plenty except a few of our hot peppers died, wilted, which never happened to us before. Still don't know what it was, I suspect the containers they were in did not drain enough. Peppers like some dry, but also not for too long. Have to have the right pots or drainage.

Just another hint for gardeners. Do what many parents did. Hit up the garden shops right away, don't wait. Plant early as you can and if you show up day or two after garden shops open you'll find eveything you're looking for. Early birds get the best variety, and healthiest plants. These places get picked out fast. Also plant before May long weekend. People should be planting seed soon as the ground can take it and is dry enough. We've seeded in April, quite often. People wonder why our garden is up a month before anybody else.

We also freeze Swiss chard and beet tops. I guess lettuce and spinach we will continue to buy through the winter. Will have to be more diligent in washing and rinsing though.

 

[bellagiobob]

Simple rule will fix the problem: You have an IG acct, you don’t get in.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Simple rule will fix the problem: You have an IG acct, you don’t get in.

I couldn’t believe how insanely crowded it was the last time I was there a couple years before Covid.

 

[Drivesaitl]

All the workers were certainly paying attention when this video and presentation occurred.

i think its inspired actually. like the comment that whoever set this up was on their game.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I couldn’t believe how insanely crowded it was the last time I was there a couple years before Covid.

Been steadily worse over the last 20yrs but instagram exploded the visitation of Lake Louise and Moraine Lake to city like levels. Its just a mass of humanity in the areas next to hotel or at trailhead. Hike for 30mins and its pretty much what it always was, busier, but at least manageable. you can barely walk by the throngs taking all their original pictures of Lake Louise and Moraine lake. Actually I haven't been able to even park at Moraine for quite a few years. Sometime I'll take the shuttle out there.
In reality this just makes me prefer Jasper even more over Banff.

 

[Beerfish]

The home side Australia beats Denmark 2-0 to move on to the quarter finals.

England has to get by Nigeria in penalty kicks after a 0-0 draw in a very tense game.

Just to prove women can do as dumb things as men in big games, England went down to 10 players late after a totally foolish, needless red card for blatantly stomping on an opponent.

 

[Fourier]

Simple rule will fix the problem: You have an IG acct, you don’t get in.

I was just at a conference in Banff. I have never seen it so crowded. In fact I don't remember being there when there were even half the people.

In May of 2003 my wife and I were in Banff during the first SARS outbreak. It was almost deserted. All the restaurants had 2 for one deals. We had a huge room at the Banff Springs for $79 per night. In fact, we had the entire wing of the hotel to ourselves. Walking around at night was really surreal.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Been steadily worse over the last 20yrs but instagram exploded the visitation of Lake Louise and Moraine Lake to city like levels. Its just a mass of humanity in the areas next to hotel or at trailhead. Hike for 30mins and its pretty much what it always was, busier, but at least manageable. you can barely walk by the throngs taking all their original pictures of Lake Louise and Moraine lake. Actually I haven't been able to even park at Moraine for quite a few years. Sometime I'll take the shuttle out there.
In reality this just makes me prefer Jasper even more over Banff.

We hiked out for a good hour and a half and it was normal as you say but the parking and congestion lakeside was nuts. Sadly Instagram coupled with global tourism has nearly destroyed many of the once idyllic sites of nature often found only in the pages of National Geographic, also destroyed in part by Instagram. The price of progress I suppose?

I remember reading an article pre-Covid about some guy who posted these great photos of these rare flowers on some hillside somewhere in the US, California I think, and within a few weeks so many tourists arrived to do the same they destroyed all the flowers by traipsing all over this pathless unspoiled hillside, all for their own personal Instagram moment. The hillside wound up being closed to everyone as a result. How ironic.

 

[soothsayer]

Simple rule will fix the problem: You have an IG acct, you don’t get in.

How far can we extend this rule!

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[BardownMagic]

the older I get the more reading this forum make my blood pressure rise

 

[Beerfish]

Columbia beats Jamaica 1-0 in a hard fought game to move into the quarter finals.

France crushes Morocco 4-0. France looks very very good in this tournament.

I'm picking them to win it all.

 

[Drivesaitl]

The home side Australia beats Denmark 2-0 to move on to the quarter finals.

England has to get by Nigeria in penalty kicks after a 0-0 draw in a very tense game.

Just to prove women can do as dumb things as men in big games, England went down to 10 players late after a totally foolish, needless red card for blatantly stomping on an opponent.

Several instances of this exist in Womens football. Not sure what it is but its purposefully engaged in regularly in womens football. The worst that men do in that regard is trod on ankles or legs through a missed tackle attempt. With women they'll blatantly walk right over them as if they are part of the field. Its an interesting psych difference?

Not sure how the coach figured that the intentional walking on the opponent was "not done on purpose". That looked pretty much on purpose.

 

[Drivesaitl]

We hiked out for a good hour and a half and it was normal as you say but the parking and congestion lakeside was nuts. Sadly Instagram coupled with global tourism has nearly destroyed many of the once idyllic sites of nature often found only in the pages of National Geographic, also destroyed in part by Instagram. The price of progress I suppose?

I remember reading an article pre-Covid about some guy who posted these great photos of these rare flowers on some hillside somewhere in the US, California I think, and within a few weeks so many tourists arrived to do the same they destroyed all the flowers by traipsing all over this pathless unspoiled hillside, all for their own personal Instagram moment. The hillside wound up being closed to everyone as a result. How ironic.

Jasper I think is always going to be a better place to go as its far less effected by day visitor type usage. Banff is a realistic day visit location from anybody in Calgary. They can do that with the 1.25hrs to get there.
This alone has always made up a difference in visitor numbers. But now instagram and that kind of thing.

Some of the solutions will not be popular. But need to occur. Its interesting that areas like Lake O Hara for a long time has required advance passes and limiting visits severely in a much more protected area. In Jasper Edith Cavell has at times recently required an advance appt time to get in, requiring that to visit. Not sure if they are still doing that. One reason it started was the collapse of Ghost Glacier ripping out the road and part of parking area. For a number of years they had to redo the infrastructure there.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Jasper I think is always going to be a better place to go as its far less effected by day visitor type usage. Banff is a realistic day visit location from anybody in Calgary. They can do that with the 1.25hrs to get there.
This alone has always made up a difference in visitor numbers. But now instagram and that kind of thing.

Some of the solutions will not be popular. But need to occur. Its interesting that areas like Lake O Hara for a long time has required advance passes and limiting visits severely in a much more protected area. In Jasper Edith Cavell has at times recently required an advance appt time to get in, requiring that to visit. Not sure if they are still doing that. One reason it started was the collapse of Ghost Glacier ripping out the road and part of parking area. For a number of years they had to redo the infrastructure there.

We’ve been going to Kananaskis since Covid instead of either Banff or Jasper and are loving it.

 

[brentashton]

the older I get the more reading this forum make my blood pressure rise

And then you will get even older and realize that it all means nothing and reading it helps relax your BP!

 

[Jumptheshark]

the older I get the more reading this forum make my blood pressure rise

this should help

 

[bellagiobob]

TV dinners, yummy.

 

[bellagiobob]

My head is spinning just watching that video. But looks like fun if you don’t get motion sick.